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Jeb Bush: I Hated Being the Frontrunner, ‘I Feel Much Better Back Here’

polgara said:
Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:

Jeb is a gentleman. Could that be the reason why the MSM would love to see a Trump/Hillary debate? Every TV in America would be tuned into that one..... :mrgreen:
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He is a gentleman, as are both GHW and GW. We could use a bunch more of such decent people in politics. Unfortunately, current politics doesn't have any room for that. In spite of all the offense mentioned of late, we grow coarser as a culture by the minute. So yes, I agree that the media would absolutely love the debate you mention. I hope it doesn't come down to that, but it sure looks like that's where we're heading.
 
humbolt said:
He is a gentleman, as are both GHW and GW. We could use a bunch more of such decent people in politics. Unfortunately, current politics doesn't have any room for that. In spite of all the offense mentioned of late, we grow coarser as a culture by the minute. So yes, I agree that the media would absolutely love the debate you mention. I hope it doesn't come down to that, but it sure looks like that's where we're heading.
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Did you see the article that explained how Trump somehow becoming the Republican nominee could result in the GOP putting a third person into the mix at the convention? I didn't know that was even possible, but nothing would surprise me! Apparently the thinking is that a Rubio or any of the other candidates would draw enough votes that no one would get the 270 needed, so it would go to the House, where each State would get one vote to pick the POTUS, and the Senate would do the same to pick the VP. Was that article written as a joke, or was it factual? :shock:
 
I don't understand why Jeb is running for president. He just doesn't seem to care. Is he getting rich from his presidential campaign or something? This makes no sense.
 
Roadvirus said:
Rubio's just another establishment whore with the Pro-Illegal Immigrant label superglued onto him. His star shined once and it faded. It will fade again.
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Oh, hey everyone, another hipster.

You know, I used to think that only hippies from 50 years ago and the Beatniks before them had this inordinate fascination with being against everything "establishment." It turns out we've just grown a new type of hippie over the last decade.
 
polgara said:
Did you see the article that explained how Trump somehow becoming the Republican nominee could result in the GOP putting a third person into the mix at the convention? I didn't know that was even possible, but nothing would surprise me! Apparently the thinking is that a Rubio or any of the other candidates would draw enough votes that no one would get the 270 needed, so it would go to the House, where each State would get one vote to pick the POTUS, and the Senate would do the same to pick the VP. Was that article written as a joke, or was it factual? :shock:
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I'd hate to see that. I believe the events described in the article are factual, but I didn't see the article. I remain hopeful that neither Clinton or Trump see the WH in any official capacity, but Clinton's assured of the nomination, and the Trump campaign seems to be gaining momentum. It's a circus, so I guess as long as that's what it's going to be, adding the third ring wouldn't be out of the question. Somebody somewhere must be crunching a lot of numbers on this, and you just have to know it's all guesses.
 
bubbabgone said:
I know you are CJ.
When I said "performances" I meant presenting himself during debates to people who don't know much about him.
He just hasn't been very strong.

But anyway, back to the prediction.
It would seem that Christie has a stronger shot at #2 and he's not even #2 yet.

You could be right ... we shall see.
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Personally, I think Christie went off the cliff in the debate when questioned by Rand Paul about how he would enforce a no fly zone over Syria if Russian planes ignored the US imposed zone. Saying he'd have no problem shooting down Russian planes is both provocative and irresponsible and was counter to his usual considered responses to most issues. He sounded like Lindsey Graham in that exchange and it didn't serve him well. I don't think the people of New Hampshire are itching for military hostilities with Russia in defense of Syria.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Personally, I think Christie went off the cliff in the debate when questioned by Rand Paul about how he would enforce a no fly zone over Syria if Russian planes ignored the US imposed zone. Saying he'd have no problem shooting down Russian planes is both provocative and irresponsible and was counter to his usual considered responses to most issues. He sounded like Lindsey Graham in that exchange and it didn't serve him well. I don't think the people of New Hampshire are itching for military hostilities with Russia in defense of Syria.
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Yeah, I thought that was a bit ... nuts. Precisely why a NFZ over Syria would never be functional. No president, apparently outside of President (HA HA) Paul, would be willing to risk the consequences of strictly enforcing it.
 
rocket88 said:
I think you're right. A strong New Hampshire finish will breathe new life into his campaign.

And after losing in NH and Iowa, Trump's inevitable fade will begin.
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I'm not sure how much damage the loss in Iowa will do to Trump's numbers in New Hampshire - Trump seems to have an insurmountable lead there at this point and Cruz doesn't have the evangelicals to pump him up there like he does in Iowa. But Trump losing to Cruz in Iowa will dampen some of Trump's support going forward and sets up a closing of the gap in NH and into the south.

I still find it impossible to believe that the Republican Party will nominate a New York liberal Democrat as their candidate for President. The Republicans have no possibility of winning New York in the general election and Trump at the top of their ticket will lose them Florida and the rust belt States they have a shot at winning and potentially lose them a lot of Senate seats. Trump would be a disaster for the Republican Party.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Personally, I think Christie went off the cliff in the debate when questioned by Rand Paul about how he would enforce a no fly zone over Syria if Russian planes ignored the US imposed zone. Saying he'd have no problem shooting down Russian planes is both provocative and irresponsible and was counter to his usual considered responses to most issues. He sounded like Lindsey Graham in that exchange and it didn't serve him well. I don't think the people of New Hampshire are itching for military hostilities with Russia in defense of Syria.
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Yeah ... that response about shooting down the Russian jet was jarring and out of character.
But he's still making a strong showing in NH.
 
disneydude said:
LOL......were are you getting that? Jeb has as much chance at finishing second in New Hampshire as O'Malley has of finishing second.
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Yeah, I'm going to take conservative intention advice from a California liberal. That's about as likely as O'Malley becoming President.
 
Roadvirus said:
What polls are you looking at? RCP has him at 5th place with 8% average (20.3% average behind Trump) in New Hampshire.
Realclearpolitics polls: New Hampshire

Nobody will want to waste money on a guy who's at 5th and 20% behind the leader.
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I'm looking at polls from pollsters within the State of New Hampshire, not the national media polls. In those, Bush has a couple showing him rising to 10%, just a couple of points out of second, and that was before the last debate.

But no worries - I'll stick with my prediction and if I'm wrong about Bush coming in second there, you can come back in this thread and say I told you so.
 
Kobie said:
Yeah, I thought that was a bit ... nuts. Precisely why a NFZ over Syria would never be functional. No president, apparently outside of President (HA HA) Paul, would be willing to risk the consequences of strictly enforcing it.
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I'm not sure you meant Paul in your comment, but I get your point.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I'm not sure you meant Paul in your comment, but I get your point.
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Yeah, it was Christie who would shoot down Russian planes, not Paul. My bad.

They have equal chances of being president. It's a number between one and negative one.
 
"Jeb Bush: I Hated Being the Frontrunner, ‘I Feel Much Better Back Here’"

This is perhaps the most pathetic statement I've ever heard from a presidential candidate. He has given up, apparently. Time to end the campaign.
 
Jeb was doomed from the start. His brother destroyed any shot that Jeb had....and if he DID have any chance, Jeb blew it by embracing his brother's failed legacy....and they say that he is the smart one. Doh!
 
disneydude said:
Jeb was doomed from the start. His brother destroyed any shot that Jeb had....and if he DID have any chance, Jeb blew it by embracing his brother's failed legacy....and they say that he is the smart one. Doh!
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The legacy was fine, but look what they have made of it.
 
joG said:
The legacy was fine, but look what they have made of it.
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LOL,,,,if you believe a legacy of failure is fine....then you are as clueless as Jeb. A legacy of leading this country to the brink of economic and moral bankruptcy and forever being known as the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century? You must set your standards extremely low.
 
jimbo said:
And that, if it happens, should boost his numbers from 3% all the way up to maybe 4%.
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Those numbers are about as nasty a thing to say about the American voter as one could.
 
disneydude said:
LOL,,,,if you believe a legacy of failure is fine....then you are as clueless as Jeb. A legacy of leading this country to the brink of economic and moral bankruptcy and forever being known as the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century? You must set your standards extremely low.
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Actually it is a populist misconception built on falsehoods and simplification that he failed. But I guess you have a point in that it would have taken a better successor to seize the opportunities he had had left him. But it was not Bush's failure that choosing Obama has become.
 
joG said:
Actually it is a populist misconception built on falsehoods and simplification that he failed. But I guess you have a point in that it would have taken a better successor to seize the opportunities he had had left him. But it was not Bush's failure that choosing Obama has become.
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Wow.....you really do live in an alternative universe. One where 911 occurred on Clinton's watch, GWB responded appropriately by rejecting his advisors plan to manipulate the public fears and use it to attack a country that had nothing to do with 911, costing us trillions and thousands of soldiers lives...one in which GWB went after those who attacked us, successfully captured and killed Bin Laden and then led the US to economic Utopia, restoring our standing with our allies and leaving a surplus for the next guy. Wow....take comfort in your delusions.
 
fmw said:
"Jeb Bush: I Hated Being the Frontrunner, ‘I Feel Much Better Back Here’"

This is perhaps the most pathetic statement I've ever heard from a presidential candidate. He has given up, apparently. Time to end the campaign.
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Agreed but he's more than happy to spend other people's money to continue living a life of sloth, indolence, and luxury. He's a male version of Hillary Clinton.
 
reinoe said:
Agreed but he's more than happy to spend other people's money to continue living a life of sloth, indolence, and luxury. He's a male version of Hillary Clinton.
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He is not as aggressive as Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately for him, the republican electorate is not impressed with him.
 
joG said:
Actually it is a populist misconception built on falsehoods and simplification that he failed. But I guess you have a point in that it would have taken a better successor to seize the opportunities he had had left him. But it was not Bush's failure that choosing Obama has become.
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Ah yes, the worst economic crash since the Depression and two quagmires were "opportunities" that Bush graciously left Obama on his way out. What a guy.
 
Kobie said:
Ah yes, the worst economic crash since the Depression and two quagmires were "opportunities" that Bush graciously left Obama on his way out. What a guy.
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I see, you have either not thought about it much or have a severe case of bias. ;)
 
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