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Who responsible is responsible?[W:8]

Glowpun

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That fellow Trump claims that Clinton and Obama are responsible for the M.E. "blowing up." Why is he forgetting that the Bush-Cheney gang is the one who instigated this whole mess?
 
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Glowpun said:
That fellow Trump claims that Clinton and Obama are responsible for the M.E. "blowing up." Why is he forgetting that the Bush-Cheney gang is the one who instigated this whole mess?
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Because Obama pulled out of Iraq despite all common-sense recommendation not to do so.
 
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Because he's talking to republicans. Duh.
 
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Glowpun said:
That fellow Trump claims that Clinton and Obama are responsible for the M.E. "blowing up." Why is he forgetting that the Bush-Cheney gang is the one who instigated this whole mess?
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They are responsible... they have been in charge for the last 8 years...it's common sense....
 
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I'm willing to go so far as Kuwait, maybe even Afghanistan, but Bush should not have gone into Iraq. And I have absolutely no respect at all for Cheney. Setting aside the obvious, just look at the impact an anti-war climate has on our politics; it's devastating.
 
Re: Who responsible is responsible?

Terrorists are responsible. They are assisted by poverty and marginalization still present from the genocidal dictator days.
 
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Glowpun said:
That fellow Trump claims that Clinton and Obama are responsible for the M.E. "blowing up." Why is he forgetting that the Bush-Cheney gang is the one who instigated this whole mess?
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Why are you forgetting that our congress critters authorized and funded those plans? Bush and Obama each were invited back to serve a second term - go figure. BTW, do you think that many care what Trump says?
 
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Moderator's Warning:
Moved to a more appropriate forum.

Now that it's not in the ME forums, this is not the place to discuss ME or I/P issues.
 
Re: Who responsible is responsible?

People are responsible for their own actions. The US might have been stupid to involve itself in the area and start armed conflicts, but that doesn't make the US responsible for other peoples actions.
 
Glowpun said:
That fellow Trump claims that Clinton and Obama are responsible for the M.E. "blowing up." Why is he forgetting that the Bush-Cheney gang is the one who instigated this whole mess?
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I guess you didn't get the memo. He's blaming GEORGE W BUSH for Iraq. He was quoted as being opposed to going into Iraq. So Bush got us there. Then Clinton and Obama's incompetence gave us ISIS and a Middle East in flames.

Basically, Bush and Clinton and Obama are products of the establishment, on both sides of the aisle.

Trump will undo ALL the damage these people have done.

Let's also not forget that BILL CLINTON had a hand in all of this as well. 911 occurred MOSTLY ON HIS WATCH. It was a five year operation.
 
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celticwar17 said:
They are responsible... they have been in charge for the last 8 years...it's common sense....
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But who STARTED this mess?! It's common sense.
 
reason10 said:
I guess you didn't get the memo. He's blaming GEORGE W BUSH for Iraq. He was quoted as being opposed to going into Iraq. So Bush got us there. Then Clinton and Obama's incompetence gave us ISIS and a Middle East in flames.

Basically, Bush and Clinton and Obama are products of the establishment, on both sides of the aisle.

Trump will undo ALL the damage these people have done.

Trump will undo ALL the damage? Really? That guy who is full of hot air and bluster but little substance?!
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Glowpun said:
But who STARTED this mess?! It's common sense.
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All Presidents inherit the mess of all the previous ones... it's what they do with what they are inherited with...Do you think President Obama administration did not start wars???? Because they did... He took down Gaddafi. The Democrats also voted with a majority to invade Iraq.... and half of Bush's presidency there was a Democrat majority in congress...

The problems in the middle east are a complicated issue and the blame cannot be put on one person or country... I hope you do not fall prey to the simplistic partisan mindset the majority of people do on this website... One day, Iraq needed to go down... all these vile countries need to go down one day...North Korea, Iran, etc... by going down, I mean drastically change and the earlier the better... because people are dying, being tortured, put into a machine of oppression and violence....

Iraq is in a better place now than it was.... why? Because there is opportunity for change... that didn't exist before...That opportunity is now closing again...
 
Glowpun said:
That fellow Trump claims that Clinton and Obama are responsible for the M.E. "blowing up." Why is he forgetting that the Bush-Cheney gang is the one who instigated this whole mess?
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I think that you will find that we didn't start the fire.
 
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