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Trump is a GENIUS

dani67 said:
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Oh, really? Wanna play that game?

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SouthernDemocrat said:
Yes obviously in his fantasy world ACORN got subprime loans for upper middle class white people to purchase more of a cookie cutter suburban McMansion than they could afford - typically with an 80/20 loan or some other form of creative financing....

I don't understand how one can be so delusional as to think that a mortgage bubble that was almost entirely out in the suburbs and never existed in the inner city, was somehow the fault of ACORN...
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Obama's Role in the Sub Prime Mortgage Crisis - ObamaForDummies.com

The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) is a United States Federal Law designed to encourage commercial banks and savings associations to help meet the needs of borrowers in all segments of their communities, including low and moderate-income neighborhoods. Congress passed the Act in 1977 to reduce discriminatory credit practices against low-income neighborhoods, a practice known as redlining. President Clinton expanded the program in 1995 after the ACORN sued Citibank in which then Community Organizer Barack Obama acted as the lead attorney for ACORN in the lawsuit against Citibank.

America's Return to Independence: How ACORN, Obama, and Bill Clinton started the sub prime crisis

Obama sued Citibank (Buycks-Roberson) as ACORNs attorney in 1994 to force them into giving sub prime loans to homebuyers with poor credit ratings, setting the stage for the mortgage meltdown. As one commentator noted in May 2008, legal "successes" such as this were probably responsible for the sub-prime mortgage crisis of 2007 AND 2008. That is, banks were not loaning to blacks whose credit was poor. When the law forced them to lend money anyway, the inevitable collapse occurred. [Yes, the very reasons for the mortgage meltdown was what Obama and ACORN fought for and then when it melted down, blamed President Bush and Wall Street.] After obtaining a settlement in the Citibank litigation, ACORN used its subsidiary organization ACORN Housing, a nationwide organization with offices in more than 30 U.S. cities, to push the group's radical agenda to get sub prime home buyers mortgages under the most favorable terms possible.


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SouthernDemocrat said:
As to the topic of the thread, I think Trump is a lot more clever than his detractors give him credit for, and it would not surprise me if he were the Republican's nominee next year. His problem is that he has destroyed his chance of getting any votes outside of the traditional Republican base and thus will find it practically demographically impossible to win in the general election.
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First, the Republican conservative base is also known as the SILENT MAJORITY. Trump could win with just that.

Secondly, who says that he won't get a butt load of Democrat votes? Not all grass roots Democrat are ****ing idiots like the ones here.
 
reason10 said:
People with an education get it.

Some day you will.
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I have an education...and I don't get it.

My education tells me your comment was HYPERBOLE.

I suspect most people with an education would understand and agree with that.
 
Kobie said:
You live in a fantasy world.
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I'd have to agree Kobie.

The mortgage bubble was a far more complex situation with many players with their hands in the cookie jar, if you will. To attribute it to any one single thing that had involvement in it isn't an honest reflection of the complex and interwoven reality of it.

Yes, the CRA and ACORN had their part in it, but then so did many, many others and many many other things as well.
 
reason10 said:
I'm just right.

New Study Finds Democrats Fully to Blame for Subprime Mortgage Crisis that Caused 2008 Financial Disaster - The Gateway Pundit

New Study Finds Democrats Fully to Blame for Subprime Mortgage Crisis that Caused 2008 Financial Disaster

Jim Hoft Dec 22nd, 2012 9:48 am 19 Comments

In his early activist days, Barack Obama the community organizer sued banks to ease lending practices.

State Sen. Barack Obama and Fr. Michael Pfleger led a protest against the payday loan industry demanding the State of Illinois to regulate loan businesses in January 2000. During his time as a community organizer Barack Obama led several protests against banks to make loans to high risk individuals. (NBC 5 Week of January 3, 2000)
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That is completely false that the subprime crisis was 100% on the Democrats.



http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...ing-bubble-post1065092747.html#post1065092747

It was Bush that got Congress to give tens of billions of dollars to HUD to finance it AND he strongly encouraged (practically goaded) Fannie and Freddie to back it up.

It was Bush that went along 100% with the Fed's ridiculous idea of lowering rates too far and for too long. It was Bush who re-nominated Greenspan during that time AND then nominated Bernanke after him. And the latter was much worse, imo, then the former.

I have read from those in his administration that low income home ownership was the number one dream he had when he first entered office. I think his heart was in the right place, but clearly he was clueless how the real world worked in this area.

I would say the blame for the housing boom/bust - in order - was the Fed, Bush, Congress, Fannie/Freddie, the banks and those consumers who got in WAY over their heads on this.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=f_...e&q=low income home ownership GW Bush&f=false

George W. Bush: Remarks on Signing the American Dream Downpayment Act

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/b...ht-admin.4.18853088.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&


And once again, I am neither Dem nor Rep.
 
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reason10 said:
First, the Republican conservative base is also known as the SILENT MAJORITY. Trump could win with just that.

Secondly, who says that he won't get a butt load of Democrat votes? Not all grass roots Democrat are ****ing idiots like the ones here.
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The "silent majority" doesn't exist.
 
t4pi0k4 said:
The Bible, you know-nothing! ;p or depending on some people it as well might be Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand (example: Paul Ryan who is completely sold on the idea of social darwinism)!
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Of course!

I should've been able to infer that from your post.

Duh. :doh

Oh well ...
 
reason10 said:
First, the Republican conservative base is also known as the SILENT MAJORITY. Trump could win with just that.

Secondly, who says that he won't get a butt load of Democrat votes? Not all grass roots Democrat are ****ing idiots like the ones here.
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*Haha!

There's a reason for the silence, and it's not about "silent" people!

It's not about 'real' people, at all, lol!

It's all about polarizing the electorate. Nothing more.

Sad & simple.

N.B. Richard Nixon
 
Chomsky said:
*bolding for relevance

*Haha!

There's a reason for the silence, and it's not about "silent" people!

It's not about 'real' people, at all, lol!

It's all about polarizing the electorate. Nothing more.

Sad & simple.

N.B. Richard Nixon
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Nixon won two landslides while catering to the silent majority.
 
reason10 said:
Nixon won two landslides while catering to the silent majority.
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Nixon won, no doubt. But to attribute his wins to the supposed voters under the term he conjured-up, is not supportable.

What is known though, is this is divisive politics at best. It's what's done when you can't appeal to the country as a whole, and when you can't, or chose not to, unite! It's a terrible quality for a President, as can be seen by Nixon's extreme polarization, particularly in his second term.

As for the 'Silent', if there ever were any, they sure became vocal enough to force his hand to end the war!

So much for that.
 
Chomsky said:
*bolding for relevance

*Haha!

There's a reason for the silence, and it's not about "silent" people!

It's not about 'real' people, at all, lol!

It's all about polarizing the electorate. Nothing more.

Sad & simple.

N.B. Richard Nixon
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There never was a 'silent majority', it was Nixonian for "our kind of people"

You are right, Nixon was the first in the modern era to realize he could polarize the electorate and motivate that sector of the right wing vote that never voted. Read "The Politics of Fear"
 
Fearandloathing said:
There never was a 'silent majority', it was Nixonian for "our kind of people"

You are right, Nixon was the first in the modern era to realize he could polarize the electorate and motivate that sector of the right wing vote that never voted. Read "The Politics of Fear"
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Therein starting a sad trend, continuing 'till today.
 
reason10 said:
Obama's Role in the Sub Prime Mortgage Crisis - ObamaForDummies.com

The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) is a United States Federal Law designed to encourage commercial banks and savings associations to help meet the needs of borrowers in all segments of their communities, including low and moderate-income neighborhoods. Congress passed the Act in 1977 to reduce discriminatory credit practices against low-income neighborhoods, a practice known as redlining. President Clinton expanded the program in 1995 after the ACORN sued Citibank in which then Community Organizer Barack Obama acted as the lead attorney for ACORN in the lawsuit against Citibank.

America's Return to Independence: How ACORN, Obama, and Bill Clinton started the sub prime crisis

Obama sued Citibank (Buycks-Roberson) as ACORNs attorney in 1994 to force them into giving sub prime loans to homebuyers with poor credit ratings, setting the stage for the mortgage meltdown. As one commentator noted in May 2008, legal "successes" such as this were probably responsible for the sub-prime mortgage crisis of 2007 AND 2008. That is, banks were not loaning to blacks whose credit was poor. When the law forced them to lend money anyway, the inevitable collapse occurred. [Yes, the very reasons for the mortgage meltdown was what Obama and ACORN fought for and then when it melted down, blamed President Bush and Wall Street.] After obtaining a settlement in the Citibank litigation, ACORN used its subsidiary organization ACORN Housing, a nationwide organization with offices in more than 30 U.S. cities, to push the group's radical agenda to get sub prime home buyers mortgages under the most favorable terms possible.


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But of course, those damn blacks are responsible for the 2008 quasi-meltdown! And Wall-Street is just a poor victim, fleeced by a galactic scale scam engineered by those miserable and dumb people!
Arf those damn black, why don't we put them back into slavery where they belong!?

reason10 said:
First, the Republican conservative base is also known as the SILENT MAJORITY.
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The conservative base is also known to be the most receptive base to dog-whistling! From the bulk of your obnoxious comments on this thread, i can tell for sure that you are one of them, this herd of zombies that hurt America the most by dragging her down time and again into the intellectual gutter!
 
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Of course Trump's a genius. He might not have been the brightest bulb in the last debate, but I feel that he came out in a better position then when he went in. He forced CNBC to a 2 hour debate. That fits right into his narrative about being a great negotiater. Now not as many people doubt him when he says, "Mexico will pay for the wall, I'll negotiate excellent contracts, we're going to win all the time"!
 
The Prophet said:
Of course Trump's a genius. He might not have been the brightest bulb in the last debate, but I feel that he came out in a better position then when he went in. He forced CNBC to a 2 hour debate. That fits right into his narrative about being a great negotiater. Now not as many people doubt him when he says, "Mexico will pay for the wall, I'll negotiate excellent contracts, we're going to win all the time"!
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Trump is not a genius...not even close.

I'm glad there are still people touting him for the Republican nomination, though, because the last thing in the world I want is for a Republican to win the White House...and he is the guy I think gives a Republican defeat the best chance of happening.

GO DONALD TRUMP!
 
reason10 said:
Think he's going to drop out of the race? Think Iowa is relevant?

Let's review, class.

1. Trump is ahead in ALL polls and he hasn't spend a cent on advertising. He has spent jet fuel money and other travel expenses. He draws record crowds. His name created a RECORD highest ratings for the two Republican debates. His RATINGS are driving his polls numbers skyward.

2. His numbers dropped in Iowa because FOUR super PACS spent a FORTUNE in TV ads. That's the ONLY reason Carson was up. And those pollsters hate Trump, so their numbers are suspect.

3. In a speech made in Miami, he condemned super PACS. There were several who wanted to contribute to his campaign. He accused super PACs in some instances of RUNNING a candidate's campaign. So he announced he would not be accepting a penny from a super PAC and he called on the other candidates to reject those super PACS as well. So now, all the other candidates in the GOP race have THAT hanging over their heads. That just negated whatever advantage Carson had in Iowa.

4. The candidates have to spend MILLIONs of dollars on TV attack ads to try to knock Trump down. He shoots his poll numbers through the roof with PERSONAL APPEARANCES in sold out arenas. They spend millions and get nothing. He spends JET FUEL and stays on top. He doesn't even need to attend any debates, with the wannabes on the GOP side or with Hillary. He can just continue to make those appearances and he'll win in a landslide.
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So, the Donald is the "chosen one?" Perhaps the new messiah? Or, maybe the "anti-christ?" Genius indeed!

Where have I heard these words before? LOL!
 
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