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I would absolutely close down mosques

Cardinal said:
I went back to the beginning of my involvement in this thread to see if I did what he accused me of. I didn't, which should come as a gigantic surprise to precisely no one.
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And to, what should be nobody's surprise, you're being less than honest about it.

For everyone else that is not you or Kobie (since he'll no doubt grant you a pass), go back and look at every time I make a comment about liberals - what/who I'm responding to?

Screw it, I'll make it easy.

Cardinal said:
You're deflecting from the point, which is that no matter how successfully you establish your own business, you are still reliant on the vast network of social programs and infrastructure that made it possible. Obama made the most reasonable, indisputable point imaginable and conservatives lost their collective ****, because if there's one universal rule, it's that you do not tell a conservative he had help from anyone.
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X Factor said:
And you didn't answer my question about whether or not you think successful people contribute, I any way, to society and I'm not surprised a bit, because the one thing you don't tell a liberal is that any person had any hand in their own success (or failures for that matter).
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Cardinal said:
Only in your mind. Because conservatives need to believe they did everything themselves.
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X Factor said:
And liberals need to believe that they're owed everything and justify it much the way you have, we built your infrastructure (or people like us did), therefor you owe your success completely to us. Really, it's brilliant. A good way to claim credit for successful businesses without undertaking any of the risk.
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Those are the only two comments in this thread where you'll see me saying anything about liberals in general.
 
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Remind me again when the Fairness Doctrine was put back into law?
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It was during LIBERAL administrations. Ronald Reagan got rid of it.
Ben Carson wants the government to police liberal speech on campus. But I'm sure THAT'S fine.
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And Hillary wants to legalize pedophelia and child prostitution.

This is FUN when we get to just make up ****, huh?
 
Thrilla said:
umm... this thread is lacking in honesty.

anyone who can read english can see he's primarily talking about withdrawing passports.... on the mosque issue, he tones it down and qualifies his position.

Trump is a blowhard dolt in my mind, but that's no excuse to be dishonest about what he says.
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trumpologist
 
X Factor said:
And to, what should be nobody's surprise, you're being less than honest about it.

For everyone else that is not you or Kobie (since he'll no doubt grant you a pass), go back and look at every time I make a comment about liberals - what/who I'm responding to?

Screw it, I'll make it easy.

Those are the only two comments in this thread where you'll see me saying anything about liberals in general.
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Your first response to me in this thread was a straw man, and your second response to me decided to introduce the partisan element. You started and have maintained a caustic, shrill theme in this thread, here and in other threads lately, and I have absolutely no idea why. I've always tried to be gracious toward you personally whether upstairs or downstairs, and you regularly straw-man me to death and deflect from my arguments at every opportunity. Much worse than ad homs, I consider the use of straw men to be the single most disrespectful form of behavior on a debate forum. You remind me of someone else who refused to be civil despite my every attempt to engage them in a fun and adult manner, but eventually one has to concede when goals are diametrically opposed, and so I was forced to pull the plug on that person.

This is my last attempt to appeal to the adult in you. I think you can be a lot of fun to banter and debate with, but these constant straw men you're using has made it cease to be fun, and fun is why I'm on this forum. Stop, or we're done forever.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
so says the Republican front runner:



He doesn't say whether he would actually issue a decree to abolish the First Amendment, or simply ignore it and issue an executive order to close any mosque he finds to be "loaded for bear." [/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]
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Clearly the man is outside of his depth...much like his supporters.
 
Thrilla said:
did Clinton issue a decree or executive order when he "closed down" the Branch davidians complex by killing everyone inside?
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Did Clinton issue an order that said "Kill everyone inside."?
 
Thrilla said:
no that i'm aware of, no.
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Then Clinton didn't shut down the Branch Davidians, by killing everyone inside.


A team of individuals did that by making a series of bad decisions. I'm not overly familiar with the story, I've forgotten a lot of the details, but did any of the agents involved ever get punished for their handling of it?
 
KevinKohler said:
Then Clinton didn't shut down the Branch Davidians, by killing everyone inside.


A team of individuals did that by making a series of bad decisions. I'm not overly familiar with the story, I've forgotten a lot of the details, but did any of the agents involved ever get punished for their handling of it?
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Not from what I gathered. All suits (mostly civil) filed by Davidian survivors against all sorts of authorities were dismissed.
 
KevinKohler said:
Then Clinton didn't shut down the Branch Davidians, by killing everyone inside.


A team of individuals did that by making a series of bad decisions. I'm not overly familiar with the story, I've forgotten a lot of the details, but did any of the agents involved ever get punished for their handling of it?
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the " by killing everyone inside" is irrelevancy.... that's just a method whereby they were shut down.... a tactic, if you will.

the primary point is in focusing on a church being shut down.( not how it was shut down)
 
reason10 said:
He and the women and children of his congregation didn't deserve to be burned alive by the jack booted thugs of the BATF.
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The CT section is down the hall to the right.
 
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