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Old 09-23-07, 08:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2008 - The GOP civil war

This is an interesting article about the GOP right-wing trying to regain their political power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070922/...licals_regroup

Most telling in the article is that it basically contends that the evangelicals really only care about 1 issue - Abortion.
Which is exactly what I believe as well.

The GOP civil war battle is in full gear and it will be interesting to see who comes out victorious.
The right-wing doesn't have the guy that they would like to have (Gingrich) but they found someone that is at least somewhat palatable to them (F.Thompson).

Meanwhile, the True GOP conservatives and Moderates who are trying desperately to rescue their party from the right-wing and the disasterous presidency of GWB are struggling to decide: Do we go with someone who truly represents our platform (Romney) or someone who we don't really love but we think can win (Giuliani). To me, this will be the most interesting battle because its a political civil war within a civil war.

Ultimately, the GOP battle will come down to Thompson v. Romney....and we will see whether true Republicans have the power to regain their power or whether the neutered right-wing can still hijack the party.
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Old 09-23-07, 09:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Im willing to vote for either Romeny, Thomson or Guiliaini because the Relgious Right hates them and considered Romney of all people a cultist.
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The right-wing doesn't have the guy that they would like to have (Gingrich) but they found someone that is at least somewhat palatable to them (F.Thompson).
You mean the Hollywood actor who lobbied for abortion rights? The Republican senator who doesn't favor a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage? Don't be too sure that the Christian Right is going to hop into bed with him (no pun intended ).

Tony Perkins has shown little enthusiasm for him. James Dobson has stated that Thompson worships Satan, and he would simply not vote for him.
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1.) What exactly in your opinion is "right wing"? What is this attempt to tether George W. Bush's policies to that of the "right wing"? GW Bush is conservative on many issues, but I would hardly consider him as being representative of the "right wing". Government size & spending has increased far too much under his watch.

2.) In an age of ever-increasing government dependency and entitlement mentality, how exactly is what the "right wing" represents (lower taxes, a return to local & regional governance, a sensible foreign policy based on the exportation of ideals & strong private property rights) necessarily a bad thing??
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LIKE WHAT?
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LIKE WHAT?
I think he's appointed two pretty decent justices to the supreme court. I agree with his tax cuts as well. Granted there isn't much else. His reluctance to cave to the abortion or stem-cell lobbies could be viewed by some (myself included) as conservative; depending of course on how exactly one chooses to define conservative.
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1.) What exactly in your opinion is "right wing"? What is this attempt to tether George W. Bush's policies to that of the "right wing"? GW Bush is conservative on many issues, but I would hardly consider him as being representative of the "right wing". Government size & spending has increased far too much under his watch.

2.) In an age of ever-increasing government dependency and entitlement mentality, how exactly is what the "right wing" represents (lower taxes, a return to local & regional governance, a sensible foreign policy based on the exportation of ideals & strong private property rights) necessarily a bad thing??
I agree that "right-wing" isn't a great term for this perspective. Perhaps "religious right" would be a better substitute.
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Re: 2008 - The GOP civil war

I really hope the Religous Right all go away or fracture into political nonentities. I firmly believe that no on really likes them.
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I really hope the Religous Right all go away or fracture into political nonentities. I firmly believe that no on really likes them.
They won't until all Gays are 'cured.' Lots of people like them. They will take over America's government, reverse all the equal rights laws and then force all Gays to have straight sex, become breeders and dress poorly.
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I really hope the Religous Right all go away or fracture into political nonentities. I firmly believe that no on really likes them.
Let's just face it...most religious people can't agree with other people of their own religion. There are so many sects to every religion. The reason that so many religions are splitting is simple. The need to make a connection with your "god" is really simply a need to make a connection with the part of yourself you keep in the dark. Any "higher communication" that is claimed objective is really subjective-or some form of schizophrenia.

The more individual that people become (the more complex they become) the higher the possibility that their "god" will not agree with someone elses. This started with the protestants. It is just splitting further, branching off. Eventually every individual will have their own "sect" of some religion.
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