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Is Carly Fiorina Peeling Feminist Support from Hillary?

Not sure what decoder ring you're using to read my post, but it might need to be recalibrated.

Feminists who support those things (which is all of them -- that's kind of the point of feminism) are the kinds of women who don't have it in them to support Fiorina, who doesn't support any of those things.

So, no. You just don't know what feminism is.
 
I saw some recent polls that say the exact opposite of what you're saying here.

disneydude is here to make sure you never believe that women will vote Republican. On the other hand I think he's damn scared over Clinton, her poll numbers are dropping like a lead balloon.
 
I saw some recent polls that say the exact opposite of what you're saying here.

I would love to see them....because I would be shocked if there was anything that demonstrated that. What I've seen is exactly what I would expect...that women vote based on issues that are important to them...not whether the candidate has a vagina.
 
It is dishonest to call someone incompetent who inherited a no win situation and who dealt with it as best as she could.

I know there are a bunch of greedy stockholders who wish that their Faerie Godmothers had brought them dividends from their nosediving HP stock.

But not even Faerie Godmothers can do what it sometimes takes Santa Claus himself at Xmas time to deliver.

Fiorina absolutely was incompetent. She didn't "inherit" a no-win situation, she created it and drove the company into the ground.
 
Yes...among REPUBLICAN Women. Women tend to vote heavily Democrat.

Ah. So you've switched from "she won't get much female support" to "she won't receive as many female votes as Hillary".

The point is....Fiorina is not going to make any inroads into the Female Vote as the OP was fantasizing about. She would get the female voters that always vote Republican and probably not much more

:shrug: you may think that. I tend to suspect that, despite the increasing polarization, there are still swing voters, and there are still such things as low-intensity voters, and that Fiorina would appeal to the women of both; especially when placed against Soulless Hillary.Inc A woman who rose on her own is a better story than a woman who rose on her philandering husbands' coat-tails.
 
disneydude is here to make sure you never believe that women will vote Republican. On the other hand I think he's damn scared over Clinton, her poll numbers are dropping like a lead balloon.

LOL....I'm not scared about Clinton at all. She would not be my ideal candidate...but she will wipe the floor clean with any of the current horrible candidates that the GOP has. Maybe if the GOP had a decent candidate in the lot...but the fact that Carson and Trump are trouncing the rest of the clowns just shows how truly weak the field of potential candidates is for the GOP. I'm actually starting to believe that even Bernie Sanders would beat any of them.
 
Ah. So you've switched from "she won't get much female support" to "she won't receive as many female votes as Hillary".



:shrug: you may think that. I tend to suspect that, despite the increasing polarization, there are still swing voters, and there are still such things as low-intensity voters, and that Fiorina would appeal to the women of both; especially when placed against Soulless Hillary.Inc A woman who rose on her own is a better story than a woman who rose on her philandering husbands' coat-tails.

She wouldn't get anywhere close to the numbers that Hilary would. She wouldn't get anywhere close to the numbers that Sanders or Biden would. She'll get the typical GOP female vote....nothing more.
As for "Fiorina rising on her own"....if by "rising" you mean being totally incompetent and driving HP into the ground...I'll give you that.
 
Ah. So you've switched from "she won't get much female support" to "she won't receive as many female votes as Hillary".



:shrug: you may think that. I tend to suspect that, despite the increasing polarization, there are still swing voters, and there are still such things as low-intensity voters, and that Fiorina would appeal to the women of both; especially when placed against Soulless Hillary.Inc A woman who rose on her own is a better story than a woman who rose on her philandering husbands' coat-tails.

She wouldn't get anywhere close to the numbers that Hilary would. She wouldn't get anywhere close to the numbers that Sanders or Biden would. She'll get the typical GOP female vote....nothing more.
As for "Fiorina rising on her own"....if by "rising" you mean being totally incompetent and driving HP into the ground...I'll give you that.
 
Feminists who support those things (which is all of them -- that's kind of the point of feminism) are the kinds of women who don't have it in them to support Fiorina, who doesn't support any of those things.

So, no. You just don't know what feminism is.
Again, you're talking about leftists more concerned about marching in lockstep with their assigned agenda.
 
She wouldn't get anywhere close to the numbers that Hilary would.

:shrug: so you say, but you tend to confuse your own beliefs with that of the broader American populace's beliefs.

She wouldn't get anywhere close to the numbers that Sanders or Biden would. She'll get the typical GOP female vote....nothing more.

:shrug: I would disagree with that assessment, and say that 100% of the swing female vote will definitely not go to Hillary.

As for "Fiorina rising on her own"....if by "rising" you mean being totally incompetent and driving HP into the ground...I'll give you that.

I mean that she made it to the top on her own, as opposed to riding to the top by staying with a husband who was consistently cheating on her, and which she put up with in order to attain power.

However, if you want to turn the debate to running things into the ground, well, I see your one Fortune 500 company and raise you US Foreign Policy.

Hillary doesn't want to get into a debate where the dominant question is who ran what into the ground.
 
I don't know if The Donald will ever be able to live down that ad hom against Carly's pretty face.

Carly actually looks pretty good for a young senior. And she can be quite charming even in her insults back to The Donald.

I am looking forward to seeing her as either the next VP or POTUS.

Either way she would be better than anyone currently in the DEM runoffs.

There you go again. You conservatives just don't get it, do you?

Example: A male friend of mine is perplexed why some women (most if not all) don't appreciate cat calls by construction workers. His point of view is that if the calls & comments are positive, that's a nice thing that most women should like.

The point is this: Men tend to focus on women's appearance, no matter what. It's not that the remark is positive or negative. It's that there is a remark at all on her appearance, when the same men do not make remarks on the appearance of other men.

Some men will think, well, that's nature, isn't it? No, it's thinking that you have some sort of right to comment on a woman's appearance in public, as if she were a thing. Notice that women don't do that to men, despite finding many men attractive. It's inappropriate and would be demeaning to a man's accomplishments.

Where are the Trump insults about Christie's weight? About Walker's prune face? About Jeb Bush's pot belly (although he went on a diet and lost weight for the campaign)?
About Huckleberry's expanding waistline? About Rand Paul's tiny stature? No comments by the candidates on Trump's hair, either, despite it being a national joke.

The list of things comes not just from Trump. It's from a lot of the Repub candidates, and Congressional actions. There seems to be a pattern of almost obsession with women's body parts and controlling them.
 
LOL....I'm not scared about Clinton at all. She would not be my ideal candidate...but she will wipe the floor clean with any of the current horrible candidates that the GOP has. Maybe if the GOP had a decent candidate in the lot...but the fact that Carson and Trump are trouncing the rest of the clowns just shows how truly weak the field of potential candidates is for the GOP. I'm actually starting to believe that even Bernie Sanders would beat any of them.

Unfortunately Clinton has never had to get along without massive MSM assistance. What you attribute to Clinton is basically a team of media entities that constantly circle the wagons around her.
 
:shrug: so you say, but you tend to confuse your own beliefs with that of the broader American populace's beliefs.



:shrug: I would disagree with that assessment, and say that 100% of the swing female vote will definitely not go to Hillary.



I mean that she made it to the top on her own, as opposed to riding to the top by staying with a husband who was consistently cheating on her, and which she put up with in order to attain power.

However, if you want to turn the debate to running things into the ground, well, I see your one Fortune 500 company and raise you US Foreign Policy.

Hillary doesn't want to get into a debate where the dominant question is who ran what into the ground.

I'm not a huge Hilary fan....however, I have no doubts that she will handle herself fine in the debates. As for Fiorina...it really doesn't matter anyway, because the GOP is not dumb enough to give her the nomination, ultimately...she will just be an asterisk come next spring.
 
I don't know if The Donald will ever be able to live down that ad hom against Carly's pretty face.

Carly actually looks pretty good for a young senior. And she can be quite charming even in her insults back to The Donald.

I am looking forward to seeing her as either the next VP or POTUS.

Either way she would be better than anyone currently in the DEM runoffs.

Charming like this:




Nah....Fiorina is about a "Charming" as a bitchy sorority "mean girl". Women aren't going to vote for her just because she has a vagina. Sorry.
 
Women aren't going to vote for her just because she has a vagina.

I don't know how to break this to you... but that is pretty much your party's presumptive front-runner's platform.

I'm not a huge Hilary fan....however, I have no doubts that she will handle herself fine in the debates. As for Fiorina...it really doesn't matter anyway, because the GOP is not dumb enough to give her the nomination, ultimately...she will just be an asterisk come next spring.

Unless she has a melt down, it's unlikely she becomes an asterisk. But I think you are correct that she will not be the nominee.
 
Yes...among REPUBLICAN Women. Women tend to vote heavily Democrat. The point is....Fiorina is not going to make any inroads into the Female Vote as the OP was fantasizing about. She would get the female voters that always vote Republican and probably not much more

Romney only lost the overall female vote by 10 points. He won the married women vote by more than 10 points. Unmarried women vote for Democrats, not married women. And I'm going to guess we won't see as many black women voting in 2016 as we did in 2012.
 
Feminists who support those things (which is all of them -- that's kind of the point of feminism) are the kinds of women who don't have it in them to support Fiorina, who doesn't support any of those things.

So, no. You just don't know what feminism is.

Please enlighten me, what is feminism?
 
I would love to see them....because I would be shocked if there was anything that demonstrated that. What I've seen is exactly what I would expect...that women vote based on issues that are important to them...not whether the candidate has a vagina.

Polls Show Carly Fiorina?s Gender-Neutral Appeal - Washington Wire - WSJ

Straw Poll: Carly Fiorina Tops Field Among GOP Women

https://reason.com/blog/2015/09/23/carly-fiorinas-gender-neutral-support

Republican women will support her in droves,
 

Republican women would support her in the same way that Republican women will support whoever the Republican nominee is (Hell....remember how much GOP women loved [and probably still do] Sarah Palin?). The problem is....she wouldn't make any inroads into the moderate/independent women who would see her for what she is.
 
Republican women would support her in the same way that Republican women will support whoever the Republican nominee is (Hell....remember how much GOP women loved [and probably still do] Sarah Palin?). The problem is....she wouldn't make any inroads into the moderate/independent women who would see her for what she is.

You said women wouldn't support her. Are women who vote for the Republican candidate not real women?
 
As I said, the Republicans need to look at the reasons they don't have a diversified Congressional presence, to the same degree as the Democrats. The Republicans have a lot of women in its ranks, so why do they sometimes not vote Republican? Could it be comments by key Republicans, like "binders full of women," "look at that face...who would vote for that?" "rape is to be expected when you put women and men together," "I don't support any exceptions to an abortion ban," "Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband," "Bette Midler's ugly face and body are offensive," "women who experience legitimate rape rarely experience pregnancy because the body won't allow pregnancy to occur," "God intended [pregnancy from rape] to happen," and so on (comments by Republican politicians).

After 2010 Republican states passed an unprecedented 1100+ legislations against health concerns and reproductive rights of women.
Republicans voted against domestic violence bill.
Republicans were against ACA mandate that ins. cos. cover birth control.
Republicans convened an all male Congressional panel to investigate contraception by women.
Defunding of Planned Parenthood, one of the few resources available to poor women for birth control. (Abortion represents less than 3% of what PP does.)
Republicans eliminated, in our assistance to other poor nations, assistance regarding birth control.
Republican launch of proposal to eliminate WIC, a program to assist poor pregnant women, and to assist with buying milk for poor babies (program has a surplus).
Republicans have voted against all equal pay bills.

And so on. I'm not saying all the bills above were good, but it looks like Republican men are obsessed with women's pay and reproductive rights, and not in a good way.

All irrelevant to the strategy a Fiorina campaign might design.
 
Women throughout the United States are as smart as women in California. They can look at Fiorina and see exactly what she is. There is no way that she garners much support from women...despite your fantasies.

We shall see.
 
Carly's whole purpose in life and reason for being born is to peel away feminist support from Hillary.

If Carly happens to get elected POTUS in the process that is fine with me too.

However I believe Carly will end up as the VP right behind either The Donald or The Jeb.

If The Donald is the Repub POTUS nominee then a Dem will be elected.
 
All irrelevant to the strategy a Fiorina campaign might design.

Fiorina strategy was not the subject of the post. It was a post about taking Democratic Party women voters away from the Dem. candidate. She won't.
 
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