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With Rick Perry Out, the Culling of the GOP Herd Begins—Here’s Who’s Next.....

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What do you think? Is it time for those that are considered to be marginal, to bow out? What say ye?


Now there are sixteen, for which we give hearty thanks to former Texas Governor Rick Perry. Let us hope Mr. Perry’s resignation from the GOP primary race inspires others to follow suit. Next Wednesday, contenders for the Republican nomination will again gather to joust on two separate debate stages, each hoping to break through and win some points, like saplings competing for sunlight. The Republican field, rich in talent and accomplishment, is struggling to be heard, overshadowed by the outsized personality and celebrity of Donald Trump.

Here’s what Republicans across the country should demand: by the time of the next debate, scheduled for October 28 in Colorado, there is but one debate stage, and fewer contestants. It is time for the most marginal candidates to bow out.....snip~

With Rick Perry Out, the Culling of the GOP Herd Begins?Here?s Who?s Next - Yahoo Finance
 
MMC said:
What do you think? Is it time for those that are considered to be marginal, to bow out? What say ye?


Now there are sixteen, for which we give hearty thanks to former Texas Governor Rick Perry. Let us hope Mr. Perry’s resignation from the GOP primary race inspires others to follow suit. Next Wednesday, contenders for the Republican nomination will again gather to joust on two separate debate stages, each hoping to break through and win some points, like saplings competing for sunlight. The Republican field, rich in talent and accomplishment, is struggling to be heard, overshadowed by the outsized personality and celebrity of Donald Trump.

Here’s what Republicans across the country should demand: by the time of the next debate, scheduled for October 28 in Colorado, there is but one debate stage, and fewer contestants. It is time for the most marginal candidates to bow out.....snip~

With Rick Perry Out, the Culling of the GOP Herd Begins?Here?s Who?s Next - Yahoo Finance
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Short answer ... YES
 
bubbabgone said:
Short answer ... YES
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Heya B. :2wave: Gilmore isn't even going to be invited to the second tier Debate Wed.



George Pataki, for instance, should withdraw from the field. The former New York Governor, who last held public office a decade ago, has been out of the game for too long, and has failed to get traction. Even his friends privately concede that his run aims to beef up his visibility and his law practice, as opposed to win the nomination. Shortly after he launched his bid in May Pataki rallied some support in New York State, polling at 11 percent along with Marco Rubio, but he has been invisible nationally. The latest Real Clear Politics polls of 15 GOP candidates don’t even include Pataki. The most recent Quinnipiac poll has him under one percent.

Also vanished from the polls is Jim Gilmore. The former Virginia Governor launched his run via video in July, but has yet to hold a campaign event or boost his presence via social media. His standing is so nonexistent that he will not be invited to participate in next week’s second-tier debate.

Those two are easy to dismiss. Others who should withdraw will likely take more convincing. On the basis of today’s polling, Lindsay Graham is facing ultra-long odds. (A prominent London bookmaker places his chance of winning the nomination at 66 to 1, only slightly worse than John McCain, who isn’t running). A recent survey of GOP primary voters in his home state of South Carolina showed that 78 percent think Graham should drop out of the race – and that’s his power base.....snip ~ same link.
 
The only two real candidates in the GOP bunch are Trump and Bush....possibly Walker and maybe Rubio. The rest don't have a shot.
 
MMC said:
What do you think? Is it time for those that are considered to be marginal, to bow out? What say ye?


Now there are sixteen, for which we give hearty thanks to former Texas Governor Rick Perry. Let us hope Mr. Perry’s resignation from the GOP primary race inspires others to follow suit. Next Wednesday, contenders for the Republican nomination will again gather to joust on two separate debate stages, each hoping to break through and win some points, like saplings competing for sunlight. The Republican field, rich in talent and accomplishment, is struggling to be heard, overshadowed by the outsized personality and celebrity of Donald Trump.

Here’s what Republicans across the country should demand: by the time of the next debate, scheduled for October 28 in Colorado, there is but one debate stage, and fewer contestants. It is time for the most marginal candidates to bow out.....snip~

With Rick Perry Out, the Culling of the GOP Herd Begins?Here?s Who?s Next - Yahoo Finance
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Jindal, Paul, Santorum, or Walker.
I doubt Carson, Cruz, or Trump will be withdrawing before the Primary.
Most of the rest have to go through the Primary to be able to swing their votes to the establishment candidate.
 
Excon said:
Jindal, Paul, Santorum, or Walker.
I doubt Carson, Cruz, or Trump will be withdrawing before the Primary.
Most of the rest have to go through the Primary to be able to swing their votes to the establishment candidate.
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Santorum for sure. Jindal knows issues and has been in Washington. So he can be good for a few debates. After Iowa.....he should bow out. Looks like Graham doesn't have the backing of his own State. So he should step aside.
 
MMC said:
Looks like Graham doesn't have the backing of his own State. So he should step aside.
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Graham is establishment and will do what the establishment wants.
He will pull the evangelical/religious right votes in a primary where he can then give them to the Establishment's candidate, Jeb.

This would be what appeared to be the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s plan. Divide the vote amongst many who could then give there support to the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s candidate.
Trump likely threw a wench into this plan with the support he is receiving.
 
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Jim Gilmore? Anyways, I agree.... Lindsay Graham..... Thats who I would put my money on.
 
MMC said:
George Pataki, for instance, should withdraw from the field.
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This is what Pataki tweeted.






1. I wonder how the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP] will treat him for reneging on his pledge?
2. Based on the comments to his tweet, he doesn't have any support.
3. If Petaki stays in it is part of the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s plan to divide.
 
Excon said:
Graham is establishment and will do what the establishment wants.
He will pull the evangelical/religious right votes in a primary where he can then give them to the Establishment's candidate, Jeb.

This would be what appeared to be the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s plan. Divide the vote amongst many who could then give there support to the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s candidate.
Trump likely threw a wench into this plan with the support he is receiving.
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I've read about that game plan and, while I'm not a Republican, I think the people who discovered it...as well as the people who designed it...know what they are talking about...and doing. It really is a well-designed plan to make Bush the nominee...except Trump had to come along and screw it up for them. Even if Trump doesn't become the nominee, it's entirely possible that Bush won't either.
 
Mycroft said:
I've read about that game plan and, while I'm not a Republican, I think the people who discovered it...as well as the people who designed it...know what they are talking about...and doing. It really is a well-designed plan to make Bush the nominee...except Trump had to come along and screw it up for them. Even if Trump doesn't become the nominee, it's entirely possible that Bush won't either.
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At this point it is to early to tell.
But Trump presently does disrupt that plan.
 
Now that Rand Paul is irrelevant most of Grahams reason for being in the race has evaporated.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Jim Gilmore? Anyways, I agree.... Lindsay Graham..... Thats who I would put my money on.
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Mornin TDS. :2wave: Yeah Gilmore of Virginia. If they aren't even going to invite him to the lower tiered debate, then with what they said about him. Should be next. Graham is still polling better than Santorum and Jindal.
 
Excon said:
Graham is establishment and will do what the establishment wants.
He will pull the evangelical/religious right votes in a primary where he can then give them to the Establishment's candidate, Jeb.

This would be what appeared to be the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s plan. Divide the vote amongst many who could then give there support to the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s candidate.
Trump likely threw a wench into this plan with the support he is receiving.
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Mornin EC. :2wave: I kind of figured he was in to foil Cruz, Huckabee, and Paul.
 
Excon said:
Graham is establishment and will do what the establishment wants.
He will pull the evangelical/religious right votes in a primary
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where he can then give them to the Establishment's candidate, Jeb.

This would be what appeared to be the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s plan. Divide the vote amongst many who could then give there support to the GOP[SUP]e[/SUP]'s candidate.
Trump likely threw a wench into this plan with the support he is receiving.
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Graham is gonna get the evangelical/religious right votes? What makes you think that?
 
disneydude said:
The only two real candidates in the GOP bunch are Trump and Bush....possibly Walker and maybe Rubio
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Jeb? :lamo
He's in third, yes, but at 8%, behind Carson (20%) and Trump (33%) according to the latest nomination poll. Rubio is tied with Cruz with 7% and Walker is tied with Fiorina with 2%.
 
Roadvirus said:
Jeb? :lamo
He's in third, yes, but at 8%, behind Carson (20%) and Trump (33%) according to the latest nomination poll. Rubio is tied with Cruz with 7% and Walker is tied with Fiorina with 2%.
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I agree that there are no real viable candidates in the sorry lot....however, assuming that you have to whittle it down...those are the only ones that even stand a sliver of a shot. Who else is there? Santorum? Jindal? Mr. Green Eggs and Ham? Huckabee? They are even lower on the list.
 
disneydude said:
I agree that there are no real viable candidates in the sorry lot....however, assuming that you have to whittle it down...those are the only ones that even stand a sliver of a shot. Who else is there? Santorum? Jindal? Mr. Green Eggs and Ham? Huckabee? They are even lower on the list.
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He didn't say there were no real viable candidates. As he wasn't talking about Democrats and the Liberals that follow their false prophets.
 
MMC said:
He didn't say there were no real viable candidates. As he wasn't talking about Democrats and the Liberals that follow their false prophets.
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LOL.....did you read his post? Who do you think he was inferring are the viable candidates? He knocked Jeb, Cruz, Walker and Fiorina....who's left once you get past Trump and Carson?

Hmmmm...its sounds like he was admitting that there aren't any other viable candidates...unless you think Huckabee and Santorum are the ones. Doh!
 
disneydude said:
LOL.....did you read his post? Who do you think he was inferring are the viable candidates? He knocked Jeb, Cruz, Walker and Fiorina....who's left once you get past Trump and Carson?

Hmmmm...its sounds like he was admitting that there aren't any other viable candidates...unless you think Huckabee and Santorum are the ones. Doh!
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Yeah I read his post.....you were the one inferring, correct?
 
bubbabgone said:
Graham is gonna get the evangelical/religious right votes? What makes you think that?
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Greetings, bubba. :2wave:

I find it interesting that some people think Graham wasn't actually interested in becoming POTUS when he become a candidate. Is that possible?
 
MMC said:
Yeah I read his post.....you were the one inferring, correct?
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Didn't answer the question....if he wasn't inferring that this is a sorry lot....who pray-tell do you think that he was inferring are the viable candidates....since his dissed Jeb, Cruz, Walker and Fiorina.

That is....if you actually read the post.
 
disneydude said:
Didn't answer the question....if he wasn't inferring that this is a sorry lot....who pray-tell do you think that he was inferring are the viable candidates....since his dissed Jeb, Cruz, Walker and Fiorina.

That is....if you actually read the post.
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Try reading his only post again. Then try without inferring. Lets see what you can come up with.
 
MMC said:
Try reading his only post again. Then try without inferring. Lets see what you can come up with.
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Here is his post: Jeb?
He's in third, yes, but at 8%, behind Carson (20%) and Trump (33%) according to the latest nomination poll. Rubio is tied with Cruz with 7% and Walker is tied with Fiorina with 2%.


He's laughing at Jeb at 8%, so he must also be laughing at Rubio, Cruz Walker and Fiorina.

So again, MMC....who's left in your sorry lot? Jindal? Paul? Santorum? Huckabee?

The fact that Trump and Carson are so far out in front is very indicative of a really poor slate of candidates. It isn't called the clown car for no reason.
 
disneydude said:
Here is his post: Jeb?
He's in third, yes, but at 8%, behind Carson (20%) and Trump (33%) according to the latest nomination poll. Rubio is tied with Cruz with 7% and Walker is tied with Fiorina with 2%.


He's laughing at Jeb at 8%, so he must also be laughing at Rubio, Cruz Walker and Fiorina.

So again, MMC....who's left in your sorry lot? Jindal? Paul? Santorum? Huckabee?

The fact that Trump and Carson are so far out in front is very indicative of a really poor slate of candidates. It isn't called the clown car for no reason.
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He showed what others were polling for the moment. Yet nowhere does he say anything about a sorry lot. That's just you with all that inferring stuff you do.
 
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