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Voter fraud

rocket88 said:
Basically what I thought. I accept your concession.
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...rocket rocket rocket ... don't play that game. You're better than that.
Fact is, and by your silence I can tell you already know, that dense population locations under control of one Party are notorious for voter fraud.
The various precincts are assigned to folks who know, or learn a great deal, about registered voter rolls vis-a-vis actual voters.
They know who may have left the precinct but are still on the rolls (which they fight to prevent from being purged) and they make sure a vote will be cast under those names.
Likewise they check the rolls to see who hasn't voted in a while and if, for whatever reason, can't get them to the polls they make certain a vote is cast under their name.
 
bubbabgone said:
...rocket rocket rocket ... don't play that game. You're better than that.
Fact is, and by your silence I can tell you already know, that dense population locations under control of one Party are notorious for voter fraud.
The various precincts are assigned to folks who know, or learn a great deal, about registered voter rolls vis-a-vis actual voters.
They know who may have left the precinct but are still on the rolls (which they fight to prevent from being purged) and they make sure a vote will be cast under those names.
Likewise they check the rolls to see who hasn't voted in a while and if, for whatever reason, can't get them to the polls they make certain a vote is cast under their name.
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So as I suspected, what bothers you IS who benefits. I finally got you to say it.

So it's a bad thing when it helps the other guy. Good to know what you really think.
 
rocket88 said:
So as I suspected, what bothers you IS who benefits. I finally got you to say it.

So it's a bad thing when it helps the other guy. Good to know what you really think.
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... and the fact that you couldn't bring yourself to acknowledge big city voter fraud means ... what?
 
bubbabgone said:
...rocket rocket rocket ... don't play that game. You're better than that.
Fact is, and by your silence I can tell you already know, that dense population locations under control of one Party are notorious for voter fraud.
The various precincts are assigned to folks who know, or learn a great deal, about registered voter rolls vis-a-vis actual voters.
They know who may have left the precinct but are still on the rolls (which they fight to prevent from being purged) and they make sure a vote will be cast under those names.
Likewise they check the rolls to see who hasn't voted in a while and if, for whatever reason, can't get them to the polls they make certain a vote is cast under their name.
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I hesitate jumping in here, but thanks for answering the question you posted. I did not the answer.

One of the advantages of living in a small town is when you go to vote, they know who you are. You still have to show ID, but it's a formality to satisfy the rules. It's probably different in a big city, but when you sign the book as being there, don't the signatures have to match? How do they get away with what they're doing?

Sad commentary on our times when cheating is allowed, or even encouraged, just to make sure your candidate wins! :(
 
polgara said:
Good morning, Bubba.

If that was Hamilton County in Ohio...I didn't see the article... it doesn't surprise me. I live in Ohio, and it was strange how it progressed during the evening, very close at times and wildly different at others.

Carl Rove may be nuts, but when they called it for Obama before all the votes were counted, I agreed with him. Why bother voting if it doesn't matter? :(
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It is the same way when it comes to the House of Representatives. Most districts are so gerrymandered, that I could give you the results of 400 House races tonight, almost two years ahead of the vote. Only in about 35 districts is there a doubt about who will win or not. Gerrymandering, the creation of safe districts, lumping like minded voters in snake drawn districts to achieve a result way before the first vote is cast is to me worst than jury rigging. It is voter fraud to the max. Yet both parties do it and both parties love doing it.
 
Perotista said:
It is the same way when it comes to the House of Representatives. Most districts are so gerrymandered, that I could give you the results of 400 House races tonight, almost two years ahead of the vote. Only in about 35 districts is there a doubt about who will win or not. Gerrymandering, the creation of safe districts, lumping like minded voters in snake drawn districts to achieve a result way before the first vote is cast is to me worst than jury rigging. It is voter fraud to the max. Yet both parties do it and both parties love doing it.
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Good evening, Pero.

Agreed!

You can almost tell who the gerrymandering goes against by listening to the vitriol about "unfairness" from the "outside" party.

We probably won't have an honest election until robots are running things.... :)
 
bubbabgone said:
...rocket rocket rocket ... don't play that game. You're better than that.
Fact is, and by your silence I can tell you already know, that dense population locations under control of one Party are notorious for voter fraud.
The various precincts are assigned to folks who know, or learn a great deal, about registered voter rolls vis-a-vis actual voters.
They know who may have left the precinct but are still on the rolls (which they fight to prevent from being purged) and they make sure a vote will be cast under those names.
Likewise they check the rolls to see who hasn't voted in a while and if, for whatever reason, can't get them to the polls they make certain a vote is cast under their name.
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What do you think about all this early voting going on? In Ohio people started voting way before the first presidential debate. I will be honest, I usually vote early here in Georgia, but early voting only starts two weeks before the election.
 
polgara said:
Good evening, Pero.

Agreed!

You can almost tell who the gerrymandering goes against by listening to the vitriol about "unfairness" from the "outside" party.

We probably won't have an honest election until robots are running things.... :)
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I think something as simple as requiring as many counties to remain whole as possible could put a lot of gerrymandering out of business. I.E. if you have 3 EV's only one county can be divided up, all the rest must remain whole and so on. As it is I live in a county of approximately 60,000 people, but it is divided up into three congressional districts. Makes no sense unless you want the results determined way before the first vote is cast. Honest and fair elections will never happen until gerrymandering is done away with.
 
Perotista said:
What do you think about all this early voting going on? In Ohio people started voting way before the first presidential debate. I will be honest, I usually vote early here in Georgia, but early voting only starts two weeks before the election.
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...it sometimes makes sense given the circumstances but to me it's one more opportunity for mischief.
 
Perotista said:
What do you think about all this early voting going on? In Ohio people started voting way before the first presidential debate. I will be honest, I usually vote early here in Georgia, but early voting only starts two weeks before the election.
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I live in Ohio, which has got to be second in importance only to DC., judging from the attention paid to Ohio! Sheesh! Then they called the election for BHO before many of the votes were even counted, and THEN they ridiculed Carl Rove for objecting! :(

I believe BHO made five trips to my area of NE Ohio in one month...there may have been more... so he was campaigning to the bitter end...which indicates he wasn't all that confident about carrying Ohio.

I vote on Election Day...I see no reason for having open voting a month ahead of time. Why isn't a two-week window sufficient time?
 
bubbabgone said:
...it sometimes makes sense given the circumstances but to me it's one more opportunity for mischief.
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Probably so, but I do firmly believe early voting shouldn't start before the first debate or two. Perhaps only two to three weeks before the election.
 
bubbabgone said:
... and the fact that you couldn't bring yourself to acknowledge big city voter fraud means ... what?
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I was giving you the rope to hang yourself. Which you did. You're more upset over who it benefits.
 
bubbabgone said:
Mirror, dude. Mirror.
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So when you said this:

bubbabgone said:
But dismissing fraud of any size like I see here should disturb everyone ... no matter who benefits.
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What you really meant is "Stupid Liberal hypocrites should be outraged." Nice, maybe you should have just said this.

A thought occured to me recently about voter ID. Why wasn't this a problem in '00 or '04? Either you guys didn't care because you won, or it was just invented. Yeah, that must be it, the DNC suddenly came up with this idea in 2006....
 
rocket88 said:
So when you said this:



What you really meant is "Stupid Liberal hypocrites should be outraged." Nice, maybe you should have just said this.

A thought occured to me recently about voter ID. Why wasn't this a problem in '00 or '04? Either you guys didn't care because you won, or it was just invented. Yeah, that must be it, the DNC suddenly came up with this idea in 2006....
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I said what I meant to say.
And it has been a problem every election year. In both local & national elections. Organized voter fraud. Doesn't mattter who does it. Right?
The question was if you had any idea where most of it takes place. You made believe you didn't know. But, and it was easy to predict, you did. And you're accusing me of something.
Reminds me of something I saw once or twice.
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bubbabgone said:
I said what I meant to say.
And it has been a problem every election year. In both local & national elections. Organized voter fraud. Doesn't mattter who does it. Right?
The question was if you had any idea where most of it takes place. You made believe you didn't know. But, and it was easy to predict, you did. And you're accusing me of something.
Reminds me of something I saw once or twice.
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I knew where you were trying to go, and I wasn't gonna play your stupid game. I didn't have any proof to back me up on anything, so I wasn't going to take your bait. Eventually, you blinked and now it's my fault.

You're angry because your choice lost, so you're falling back on the predictable righty script of "It's fraud..." Romney was Obama-lite. You had a golden opportunity to run against Obamacare, so your candidate was the guy who came up with the damn idea in the first place. Romney lost because he was a ****ty candidate. Like John Kerry...golden opportunity to unseat a ****up wasted by a bad choice of candidates.
 
rocket88 said:
I knew where you were trying to go, and I wasn't gonna play your stupid game. I didn't have any proof to back me up on anything, so I wasn't going to take your bait. Eventually, you blinked and now it's my fault.

You're angry because your choice lost, so you're falling back on the predictable righty script of "It's fraud..." Romney was Obama-lite. You had a golden opportunity to run against Obamacare, so your candidate was the guy who came up with the damn idea in the first place. Romney lost because he was a ****ty candidate. Like John Kerry...golden opportunity to unseat a ****up wasted by a bad choice of candidates.
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No need to sound so bitter and off-topic. The topic is Voter fraud and it happens mostly in dense population areas run by political machines and you knew it did. Deal with it and don't troll on me.
 
I'll agree to voter ID when voting becomes mandatory for everyone and everyone is freely given an ID.
 
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