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Why Conservatives should NOT vote for Romney. [W:348]

I know Obamanomics is a failed and flawed economic theory. And you know it. But the jury is still out for Left-wingers and more importantly it is out for most Independents (who are going to decide this election).
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IMO anyone truly undecided today is too stupid to vote. There is a stark contrast between Romney and Obama. The jury isn't out any longer, Obama is a failure as the economic results show


IndepCntrist: Mitt Romney and poltical courage? I strongly disagree. But if that is what you have convinced yourself of then, so what? I mean Hitler and Saddam Huessein had political courage too. Which goes to show that political courage doesn't mean jack squat if it its done in the name of the wrong policy.
Also, if he has such strong political courage and convictions then why has he flipped flopped more times than Boy George at a Miami Beach Roman-styled toga party?
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It does appear that the only truly viable candidate or perfect candidate for you is YOU. Why don't you run?

And since we are speaking of convictions, poltical courage and personal character, then it should be OBVIOUS what I mean when I talk about the party of Lincoln/Eisenhower/Reagan. These AMericans (and many others) were Republicans of real decency, Republicans who stood against political pressure. Republicans who changed our country for the better. Mitt Romney has NONE of those qualities. Other than being a good family man, I see no postive characteristics in Romeny at all. In every example of "political courage" you site yo can see a pattern of ROmney doing what is best for his career and what is best for his silver spoon/CEO/borad member boy's club of millionaires.
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Sitting out this election or voting for a third party candidate is exactly what Obama needs for another 4 years. Again we will have a minority President and all you can do is sit around and whine about the results like all third party supporters do. Like it or not Romney is the alternative and a better one than we have in the WH right now.
 
Conservative said:
IMO anyone truly undecided today is too stupid to vote.
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Well, you know what they say about opinions. Besides I am NOT exactly undecided. In fact I am very decided. I've decided I'm not voting for Romney and I'm not voting or Obama.

Let me ask you this Conservative. I'm new here, so I dont know your views. But you could not have been hoping for Romney during the Republican primaries, could you? There were at least a half dozen canidates that were 100 times more conservative than him. Canidates who actually understand the middle class - not to mention a half dozen more who didn't run, but who might run in 2016 like Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, etc.
So why should we vote to shift our party toward an ideolgoy that is that of the Corporate Democrat? You wouldnt vote for Al Gore or Hillary or Bill or John Kerry, would you? SO then why the funk would you vote for Mitt Romney?!?
 
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IndepCentristMA said:
1967, while living in France, a couple female missionaries were being assaulted by French rugby fans following a match, and Romney ran out to protect the women from the men, taking a couple punches...
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Oh my GOODNESS!! He saved a couple of missionaries from bad French rugby fans?! What a hero!

Meanwhile, what were less well-to-do Americans doing in 1967?

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CONSagainROMNEY said:
I know Obamanomics is a failed and flawed economic theory. And you know it. But the jury is still out for Left-wingers and more importantly it is out for most Independents (who are going to decide this election).

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IndepCntrist: Mitt Romney and poltical courage? I strongly disagree. But if that is what you have convinced yourself of then, so what? I mean Hitler and Saddam Huessein had political courage too. Which goes to show that political courage doesn't mean jack squat if it its done in the name of the wrong policy.
Also, if he has such strong political courage and convictions then why has he flipped flopped more times than Boy George at a Miami Beach Roman-styled toga party?

And since we are speaking of convictions, poltical courage and personal character, then it should be OBVIOUS what I mean when I talk about the party of Lincoln/Eisenhower/Reagan. These AMericans (and many others) were Republicans of real decency, Republicans who stood against political pressure. Republicans who changed our country for the better. Mitt Romney has NONE of those qualities. Other than being a good family man, I see no postive characteristics in Romeny at all. In every example of "political courage" you site yo can see a pattern of ROmney doing what is best for his career and what is best for his silver spoon/CEO/borad member boy's club of millionaires.
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I think we know by now you hate Romney, now go vote for Obamafailure.
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
Well, you know what they say about opinions. Besides I am NOT exactly undecided. In fact I am very decided. I've decided I'm not voting for Romney and I'm not voting or Obama.

Let me ask you this Conservative. I'm new here, so I dont know your views. But you could not have been hoping for Romney during the Republican primaries, could you? There were at least a half dozen canidates that were 100 times more conservative than him. Canidates who actually understand the middle class - not to mention a half dozen more who didn't run, but who might run in 2016 like Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, etc.
So why should we vote to shift our party toward an ideolgoy that is that of the Corporate Democrat? You wouldnt vote for Al Gore or Hillary or Bill or John Kerry, would you? SO then why the funk would you vote for Mitt Romney?!?
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I had no preference in the primaries because all were better than the alternative which is Obama. The real key is term limits in Congress and cleaning that rats' nest out. Romney is the choice we have and I won't waste my vote for someone else.The ones you want didn't run
 
AdamT said:
Oh my GOODNESS!! He saved a couple of missionaries from bad French rugby fans?! What a hero!

Meanwhile, what were less well-to-do Americans doing in 1967?

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Do you have a picture of Clinton or Obama walking the swamp?
 
Born Free said:
Do you have a picture of Clinton or Obama walking the swamp?
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I believe Obama was six year old in 1967, and I never claimed that Clinton was some kind of hero.
 
To say that Obama's policies have failed, but the other guy is not 'conservative enough' to vote for is utterly moronic. Oh my, a new user who picks a name that is against Romney, and comes in ranting... Sounds like a little humanoid that lives under a bridge, and not much else.
 
AdamT said:
I believe Obama was six year old in 1967, and I never claimed that Clinton was some kind of hero.
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But Obama is your hero, and do you have any picture of anytime Obama was in any swamp, training or otherwise. I think you get what I'm asking, was Obama ever in the military.
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
Remember voting for Dole in '96? Or McCain in '08? Remember watching Clinton being sworn in for a second term and that sinking feeling of Wow, I wasted an entire afternoon going to the polls to vote for a canidate who really didnt have a snowballs chance of winning anyway. Remember thinking, why did I even waste my time?

Well, if you vote for Romney this November then most likely you will be having that same feeling come January 2013.

But that is not why you should NOT vote for Romney in November. The reason you should not vote for Mitt Romney is because he is not a Conservative. The reason you should not vote for him is because of his stance on abortion, on gun control, on health care, on gay marriage, on religion. But these are all wedge issues, you say. Sure, Romney's policies on these issues have been in line with the liberal agenda, but the big issue this year is the economy, you say.
Ok, fair enough. So why exactly do you think Romney would be good for economy??? Because he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has never worked one minute of manual labor in his enitre life? Because he has NO IOTA of what us working folk have to do every day? Because he has an army of nannys, maids, chauffers and assistants to clean up after him and wipe his crack every day? Or maybe it is because he wants to INCREASE government spending even MORE than what we currently have.

Look, unless you are a millionaire who was born with a silver spoon in your mouth, Romney does NOT represent you and you would be a FOOL to vote for him. It would be far better to cast your vote in a respectable manner - in a way that would let you sleep well at night and look yourself in the mirror each morning. It would be far better to vote for the person who actually reflects your vision and your values. Be that Gary Johnson or Ron Paul, or any other write-in candidate like Chris Christie or Jeb Bush or Mike Huckabee. Because if you vote for Romney, you are saying THIS is what the Republican party stands for: a flip-flopping political opportunist who hides the money he made in shiping jobs overseas and stealing our retirement funds in Swiss bank accounts and a maze of tax shelters. THAT is not what my Republican Party is about, my friends. THAT is not what our future should be. We need to vote our conscience on this one. Vote for a canidate that actually reflects our Republican-American values. That is the way to go. Or even sit this one out, for 2012 is not our year. It is not the year that we send a true representative of the Republican Party to the White House. 2016 will be that year. 2016 will see the strongest group of Republican contenders since 1976 or 1980. We must be patient. We must circle the wagons and tough this one out. We must NOT vote for a lesser of two evils or a canidate that is not a true Republican. And Mitt Romney is NOT a true Republican!
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Republican American values. Please. Sounds like you voted for Rick Santorum.
 
ReformCollege said:
Republican American values. Please. Sounds like you voted for Rick Santorum.
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Obama and his supporters don't understand leadership at all. All believe you can blame someone else for your own personal failures and that you can delegate responsibility. That is all Obama does other than play golf and fund raise. Obama wouldn't have to fund raise at all if he had positive results. Results trump all the money and it is obvious that Obama needs the money to divert from his own record.
 
Born Free said:
But Obama is your hero, and do you have any picture of anytime Obama was in any swamp, training or otherwise. I think you get what I'm asking, was Obama ever in the military.
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And I'm sure you know the answer. He wasn't in the military. But I never claimed he was a hero -- that's your strawman.
 
Born Free said:
But Obama is your hero, and do you have any picture of anytime Obama was in any swamp, training or otherwise. I think you get what I'm asking, was Obama ever in the military.
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Let's stop being dogmatic. He was born after the Vietnam War, and chose a different life path. I disagree with him about other things, but throwing in complaints like this just gives the liberals something to focus on.
 
AdamT said:
I believe Obama was six year old in 1967, and I never claimed that Clinton was some kind of hero.
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But you were downplaying Romney's accomplishments. I thought the source list was pretty impressive. A lot longer than Obama's.
 
Conservative said:
Obama and his supporters don't understand leadership at all. All believe you can blame someone else for your own personal failures and that you can delegate responsibility. That is all Obama does other than play golf and fund raise. Obama wouldn't have to fund raise at all if he had positive results. Results trump all the money and it is obvious that Obama needs the money to divert from his own record.
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And I feel as if Romney can show that leadership. He's timid as a candidate, but as a politician and businessman he showed leadership. He's not as conservative as the radicals in the party, but then again neither was Reagan.
 
ReformCollege said:
Let's stop being dogmatic. He was born after the Vietnam War, and chose a different life path. I disagree with him about other things, but throwing in complaints like this just gives the liberals something to focus on.
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He had to pick a different path, the military generally doesn't let in heavy drug users.
 
Arbo said:
He had to pick a different path, the military generally doesn't let in heavy drug users.
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I can only imagine what this world would be like if alcohol carried the same social stigma as marijuana. This coming from someone who uses neither.
 
AdamT said:
And I'm sure you know the answer. He wasn't in the military. But I never claimed he was a hero -- that's your strawman.
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So Obama and Clinton are on a par with Romney not serving in the military.

As for Obama not being your "Hero" you could never prove that by me. Maybe you can direct me to a post (just one) that you have ever criticized Obama?
 
ReformCollege said:
I can only imagine what this world would be like if alcohol carried the same social stigma as marijuana. This coming from someone who uses neither.
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Pot? Oh, I don't care about that, it should be legal. Obama said he did other stuff as well.
 
Born Free said:
So Obama and Clinton are on a par with Romney not serving in the military.

As for Obama not being your "Hero" you could never prove that by me. Maybe you can direct me to a post (just one) that you have ever criticized Obama?
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Again, I did not set up Obama as some kind of hero for standing up to some French ruffians ( :rofl ) in 1967. I'm not sure why you keep trying to make this about Obama? And Clinton? AFAIK Clinton is term limted.
 
CONSagainROMNEY said:
There were at least a half dozen canidates that were 100 times more conservative than him. Canidates who actually understand the middle class - not to mention a half dozen more who didn't run, but who might run in 2016 like Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, etc.
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No doubt there were qualified potential candidates who did not run.
But, they weren't really candidates, were they, if they did not run?

But, if you go back and take a look at who actually did run, which one would have been a better president than Romney?
Rick Perry?
Herman Cain?
Rick Santorum?
Michelle Bachmann?

Who?

Romney was the only qualified and, well let's say it, sane candidate on the ticket.

Now, will the partisan die hard Republicans, the guys who wouldn't vote Democrat if the Republican candidate were Mephistopheles himself, quit whining and get behind their candidate?

I mean, really. The choice is Obama or Romney. That imaginary perfect candidate doesn't exist.

and while I personally don't fit into that diehard Republican category, I'd much rather see a president Romney this time around. He may disappoint the constituency who thinks he's a miracle worker, but he is just better qualified than his opponent.
 
Dittohead not! said:
No doubt there were qualified potential candidates who did not run.
But, they weren't really candidates, were they, if they did not run?

But, if you go back and take a look at who actually did run, which one would have been a better president than Romney?
Rick Perry?
Herman Cain?
Rick Santorum?
Michelle Bachmann?

Who?

Romney was the only qualified and, well let's say it, sane candidate on the ticket.

Now, will the partisan die hard Republicans, the guys who wouldn't vote Democrat if the Republican candidate were Mephistopheles himself, quit whining and get behind their candidate?

I mean, really. The choice is Obama or Romney. That imaginary perfect candidate doesn't exist.

and while I personally don't fit into that diehard Republican category, I'd much rather see a president Romney this time around. He may disappoint the constituency who thinks he's a miracle worker, but he is just better qualified than his opponent.
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Don't worry, he's just pretending. In reality he's a liberal who is trying to dissuade Romney voters. It's a deliberate tactic he is engaging in and has been doing it across multiple threads now. Not surprising that he happened to start this at the same time this meme started to get generated across the left wing blogs by the WH.

Staying at home is a vote for Obama. Period. The only thing that matters in November is that the absolute disaster currently occupying the WH becomes unemployed. Romney just happens to be the name on the ballot that is not Obama. Everything else is irrelevant. If we don't stop the bleeding now, it's over.

Every few decades a social utopian manages to con the American Public. Carter did it and the country experienced unchecked liberalism. It was a historical failure and the public they rejected it. The horror of the Carter years faded from memory as new brainwashed generations entered the polling booths in 2008, swept in an emotional tidal wave purposely ginned up by the rabble rousers from Chicago. More than 51% of the country was turned into a Hope and Change cult in 2008. Obama has spent the last 4 years using your money to finance his vote buying scheme through welfare and food stamps. Don't worry though, "It worked", "You Didn't build that", and "The Private Sector is doing just fine" as we sit 5+ trillion more in debt and 15% Real Unemployment.

Just don't even bother wasting any of your precious time on someone like him. It's beneath you.
 
AdamT said:
Meanwhile, what were less well-to-do Americans doing in 1967?
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The responsible ones were serving in Vietnam. The irresponsible ones - future Obama supporters and lefties - were getting high in San Francisco.
 
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