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Perry Leads Republican Field in National Poll

What a racist statement that ignores reality.

First of all, explain why the statement is racist.

Secondly, way to totally miss the point. Dumbass Perry talks out of two sides of his mouth.


Stimulus money comes from the taxpayers of which Texans are taxpayers. Why should TX send money to D.C. so that D.C. can send it to other states and not back to TX? By the way, do you think that states should pay for Federal mandates such as expansions of Medicaid and unemployment benefits?


That the Tea Folk don't get is that their town would have shut down w/o stimulus money. No police. No hospitals. No school. No service. No shoes.
 
Interesting that low wage jobs are defined by people living outside of TX and ignore the cost of living in TX and as well as ignore who has those jobs. Amazing how so many focus on the low end but not the Fortune 500 companies moving to TX and the growth in the non energy sector in TX that doesn't pay low wages, healthcare and tech fields.

The analysis was based on TX figures. What the cost of living is in TX.

Plus, what are those jobs that you mentioned paying in TX vs the rest of the country? And how many of those jobs being produced compare to the rest of the nation? You keep saying that those are a major part of the job growth in TX, yet haven't shown them in any comparison to the rest of the country.

Education is a local issue and there is nothing to prevent local school districts from getting funds from their community and that happens all the time. Cuts in state funding for education only impacts those who believe it is the government's responsibility to pay for everything that goes on in a school district. School Districts all over TX are going to their community seeking funds and getting most of what they want.

Education affects everyone.

Plus, those additional tax burdens placed on people by their local governments would also have to be brought up then in comparison to what the total tax burden is for people from other states. A state government isn't really helping their people by having no income taxes (even though it has been shown that TX makes up for no income taxes by having higher taxes/fees in other places) if they have to make up for those by paying much higher taxes locally than if they had to pay those income taxes.

You seem to have that entitlement mentality which I find interesting from someone in the military. People of TX know that health insurance is a personal responsibility not a govt. responsibility. The best way to lower costs is to actually address them including the cost of illegal immigrants getting ER service.

On the contrary, I'm practical. I understand that what a person can do and what they are able to do are not the same thing. I also understand that by not providing affordable medical care for the poorest people in this country, we are causing our own financial hardships. And that much of the cost of medical care is not due to government policies, as the rich people like to claim, but rather due to corporate greed by many parts of the medical industry.

The best medical care I have ever had was a form socialized medicine because that is what the military medical is.


I don't see where your claims of what Perry did regarding jobs is different from the claims made of other politicians as well including Obama. As for helping pharma companies, imagine that a Governor helping business that employs people?

What I dismiss is that which is irrelevant. Perry cannot do the harm that you believe he can do by having beliefs contrary to yours.

He was helping the pharma company make bigger profits, which is not the same as actually employing more people. It is much more likely that most of that money from the mandate was likely going to make a few people richer, not being distributed evenly to actually help those lower down. And the mandate was in direct contradiction to small government involvement, which is a principle that Perry espouses.

Those beliefs that are important to me that Perry ignores are important to a good portion of the US, especially people who aren't Party Republicans or blinded by religious beliefs or greed. That is a pretty significant portion of the country.
 
hazlnut;1059764410]First of all, explain why the statement is racist.

Secondly, way to totally miss the point. Dumbass Perry talks out of two sides of his mouth.


That the Tea Folk don't get is that their town would have shut down w/o stimulus money. No police. No hospitals. No school. No service. No shoes

This isn't racist?

It will be funny watching a Texan getting his ass-whopped by a black man.

What does being black have to do with it

Dumbass Obama has generated the following results, guess that isn't speaking out of both sides of his mouth for he promised better results.

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 55% disapproval ratings.


Stimulus money was to create jobs and there is no proof that they saved any. Like all liberals you don't have a clue what the govt. funds, police, hospitals, schools are state responsibility, not the federal taxpayers including people from your state supporting my school district
 
Dumbass Obama has generated the following results, guess that isn't speaking out of both sides of his mouth for he promised better results.

Dumbass Perry has generated these results:

Double unemployment despite a net job gain
25% uninsured rate
3rd highest teen pregnancy rate
Low ranked education system
 
Dumbass Perry has generated these results:

Double unemployment despite a net job gain
25% uninsured rate
3rd highest teen pregnancy rate
Low ranked education system

Unless Perry is more of a player than we otherwise are led to believe, his connection to the teen pregnancy rate is probably a rather distant one.

And I do not see any racism in that post Conservative is all hot and bothered about.
 
Unless Perry is more of a player than we otherwise are led to believe, his connection to the teen pregnancy rate is probably a rather distant one.

And I do not see any racism in that post Conservative is all hot and bothered about.


 
roguenuke;1059764414]The analysis was based on TX figures. What the cost of living is in TX.

Lower than living in California

Plus, what are those jobs that you mentioned paying in TX vs the rest of the country? And how many of those jobs being produced compare to the rest of the nation? You keep saying that those are a major part of the job growth in TX, yet haven't shown them in any comparison to the rest of the country.

You don't seem to get it, it isn't the government's place to tell private business what to pay its workers nor guarantee anyone other than equal opportunity and that is what we have in TX

Education affects everyone.

yes, and there are examples all over TX of people getting great educations. Education is a responsibility of the parent not the govt.

Plus, those additional tax burdens placed on people by their local governments would also have to be brought up then in comparison to what the total tax burden is for people from other states. A state government isn't really helping their people by having no income taxes (even though it has been shown that TX makes up for no income taxes by having higher taxes/fees in other places) if they have to make up for those by paying much higher taxes locally than if they had to pay those income taxes.

People in the states have the opportunity to move to wherever they want. Don't like the taxes move to another area. Move to TX and don't pay State income taxes. Want to compare tax rates between TX and California? You don't seem to understand the role of govt. Our Founders envisioned TX not California


On the contrary, I'm practical. I understand that what a person can do and what they are able to do are not the same thing. I also understand that by not providing affordable medical care for the poorest people in this country, we are causing our own financial hardships. And that much of the cost of medical care is not due to government policies, as the rich people like to claim, but rather due to corporate greed by many parts of the medical industry.

On one hand you believe in being practical but on the other you expect the govt. to do things it never was intended to do. Who are corporations and what do they do with their money? People of TX aren't denied medical care and there are plenty of options here. Don't talk about that which you do not understand

The best medical care I have ever had was a form socialized medicine because that is what the military medical is.

Great, being in the military then gives you the opportunity to relocate to another country that offers you socialized medicine. Get on the waiting list when you need the care



He was helping the pharma company make bigger profits, which is not the same as actually employing more people. It is much more likely that most of that money from the mandate was likely going to make a few people richer, not being distributed evenly to actually help those lower down. And the mandate was in direct contradiction to small government involvement, which is a principle that Perry espouses.

What do companies do with their profits and what is your problem with profits. How does that hurt you and why aren't you trying to participate in growing your profits? A lot of seniors rely on those Pharma profits

Those beliefs that are important to me that Perry ignores are important to a good portion of the US, especially people who aren't Party Republicans or blinded by religious beliefs or greed. That is a pretty significant portion of the country.

You are entitled to your opinion, I live here and have mine. Given the choice Obama vs. Perry I will take Perry. Kinky Friedman last night said it best, "I will vote for Charlie Sheen before voting for Obama" As a candidate he ran against Perry and knows him well. He is supporting Perry
 
Unless Perry is more of a player than we otherwise are led to believe, his connection to the teen pregnancy rate is probably a rather distant one.

And I do not see any racism in that post Conservative is all hot and bothered about.

Spoken like a true big govt. liberal who believes it is the government's role to take on parental responsibilities.
 
First of all, explain why the statement is racist.

Secondly, way to totally miss the point. Dumbass Perry talks out of two sides of his mouth.





That the Tea Folk don't get is that their town would have shut down w/o stimulus money. No police. No hospitals. No school. No service. No shoes.

that isn't the role of the Federal Govt. what part of that don't you understand?
 
Oil dependence dropped because overall demand for oil dropped due to Obama's disastrous economic record.

Perry said oil dependence increased. You guys get your story together and get back to us! :sun
 
as soon as I saw this, I knew that I didn't even have to look up the rest, because it's crap.

in realityland; there is no way we will generate the kind of surpluses needed over the next few years to pay back the SS Trust Fund, and Social Security will go down with Medicare unless we reform them both first and soon at that.

According to the trust fund administrators, SS is solvent until 2036. To make it solvent for the long term all that is needed is to raise the FICA cap from its current $106,000 to $180,000.
 
The reality that liberals want to ignore

Social Security IOU’s

Social Security IOUs stashed away - Washington Times

Liberals don't ignore it. We expect the rich to pay it back since they are the ones that benefited the most through their tax cuts that required robbing SS to pay the bills they ran up on optional ME wars and a decade of overspending on the military.

From your article:

"For more than two decades, Social Security collected more money in payroll taxes than it paid out in benefits - billions more each year."
 
Psssst............I'm not Perry.


Psssst...............the lie was Perry's. That was the point of the post you felt you had to respond to. :sun
 
Liberals don't ignore it. We expect the rich to pay it back since they are the ones that benefited the most through their tax cuts that required robbing SS to pay the bills they ran up on optional ME wars and a decade of overspending on the military.

From your article:

"For more than two decades, Social Security collected more money in payroll taxes than it paid out in benefits - billions more each year."

LOL, how are the rich benefiting from their income going to SS? You don't seem to understand the difference between Payroll taxes and Federal Income taxes thus obviously don't know what FIT funds.

From my article that is the point, more has been collected than paid out but that says nothing about how it was applied to the Federal budget and spent. It isn't in that lock box, it is gone. Your contributions was spent years and probably decades ago and isnt there for you now. Younger workers are paying for your SS just like you paid foor the SS of older people while you were working. Don't you get tired of making foolish comments and being proven wrong.
 
LOL, how are the rich benefiting from their income going to SS?

They got two optional wars, a decade of lavish military spending and a decade of tax cuts, that's how they benefited from SS. Now its time for them to repay that debt to SS. That can be accomplished by simply raising the FICA cap to $180,000.
 
They got two optional wars, a decade of lavish military spending and a decade of tax cuts, that's how they benefited from SS. Now its time for them to repay that debt to SS. That can be accomplished by simply raising the FICA cap to $180,000.

The rich benefited from SS by two wars and lavish military spending ????? That's bizarre even from you.
 
They got two optional wars, a decade of lavish military spending and a decade of tax cuts, that's how they benefited from SS. Now its time for them to repay that debt to SS. That can be accomplished by simply raising the FICA cap to $180,000.

What the hell are you talking about, those evil rich people benefited from the wars? That is a general statement. Why do you hate rich people? Where is that liberal compassion? So evil rich now is defined as 180.000? Bet a lot of New Yorkers or Californians would disagree with you. Wouldn't it be easier to take SS off budget and put the money that is contributed where it belongs?
 
The rich benefited from SS by two wars and lavish military spending ????? That's bizarre even from you.

Yes, the GOP who represent the rich in this country are the ones that started both wars and doubled military spending at the same time they cut taxes for their clients, the wealthiest Americans. The majority of Democrats voted against the war with Iraq.
 
What the hell are you talking about, those evil rich people benefited from the wars? That is a general statement. Why do you hate rich people? Where is that liberal compassion? So evil rich now is defined as 180.000? Bet a lot of New Yorkers or Californians would disagree with you. Wouldn't it be easier to take SS off budget and put the money that is contributed where it belongs?

No that would penalize seniors for greed by the rich. It would be much easier, and more poetic, to simply raise the FICA cap those who have benefited most from the money stolen from the seniors in the first place. :sun
 
No that would penalize seniors for greed by the rich. It would be much easier, and more poetic, to simply raise the FICA cap those who have benefited most from the money stolen from the seniors in the first place. :sun


I can see this is pointless. Continue on with your class envy and warfare rhetoric.
 
Liberals don't ignore it. We expect the rich to pay it back since they are the ones that benefited the most through their tax cuts that required robbing SS to pay the bills they ran up on optional ME wars and a decade of overspending on the military.

From your article:

"For more than two decades, Social Security collected more money in payroll taxes than it paid out in benefits - billions more each year."

I hear the bolded portion all too often from liberals and the like. As a soldier, I'm still trying to figure out where this alleged over-spending is. My broke ass doesn't see any of it nor does my unit's budget.

Perhaps you would like to audit us so you know what the hell you're talking about?
 
I hear the bolded portion all too often from liberals and the like. As a soldier, I'm still trying to figure out where this alleged over-spending is. My broke ass doesn't see any of it nor does my unit's budget.

Perhaps you would like to audit us so you know what the hell you're talking about?

I doubt you will see overspending from your position.

But I do see it in a 100 million dollar fighter jet that can't even be used in combat.

I'd rather that money go towards your way.
 
Yes, the GOP who represent the rich in this country are the ones that started both wars and doubled military spending at the same time they cut taxes for their clients, the wealthiest Americans. The majority of Democrats voted against the war with Iraq.

And what does SS have to do with your fantasy and how did the "rich" benefit through SS by the wars ??

Does everyone that is rich make money from military spending ??

I guess the Dems support from the rich in Hollywood, lawyers, and unions does not count, right ??
 
I doubt you will see overspending from your position.

But I do see it in a 100 million dollar fighter jet that can't even be used in combat.

I'd rather that money go towards your way.

I'm sure the workers that designed and built that jet would disagree.
 
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