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Perry Leads Republican Field in National Poll

Most of America is, as you so condescendingly put it, "Redneck country."

actually i think here he has a point. the rest of us are civilized enough to know that college football is the most important thing in the world :).
 
Most of America is, as you so condescendingly put it, "Redneck country."

Yes, that was proven during the last Presidential election. Racists, rednecks, gun nuts - delusion and paranoia seems to be par for the course for you.
 
Shakespeare wrote a play all about this ....... MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. Perry is merely the new girl in school coming in in late October and is getting all the attention. As the attention of what the ridiculous Texas miracle really is comes to light, he will fade.

Well, I'll say one thing about Perry. After he gets done removing all of the Articles of the Constitution he doesn't like, that document will be much easier and quicker to read. We know he likes the 2nd Amendment, and the 10th. The rest he's not so crazy about apparently.
 
Most of America is, as you so condescendingly put it, "Redneck country."

Most defined by geography. And Texas is indeed "Red Neck Country". But of course if you ask a Texan, they will deny that Texas is similar to anywhere else. In fact the airport at College Station used to have a plaque on the wall that was visible as you were leaving the terminal to board a flight.

It said "You are now leaving the most beautiful place on the face of the earth"

If nothing else, they do have a sense of humor.

In fairness however, A&M is an excellent school. Fortunately the out of state students bump up the overall IQ (j/k)
 
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I haven't lost faith yet but I do conceed that it's lookin' more and more like were gonna have to deal with Obama for another 4 years. Unless the GOP in congress get's kicked to the curb, I doubt Obama will be able to achieve any more than he did in the first term. The GOP has made their intentions quite clear. Their biggest goal is not the economy, education, healthcare or any other issue that would benefit the people. Their primary objective is to get that ****** out of the Whitehouse so the fat cats filling their campaign chests can continue to get their free ride while the common folk keep bending over and taking it up the ass.

Have a nice day everyone!

Filling our campaign chests? I don't recall having a campaign chest. I'm pretty sure that most GOP voters don't have campaign chests. Yet we're supporting Perry anyways, despite the GOP establishment - who DO have campaign chests - being terrified of him.
 



However, Scott Rasmussen notes that Perry may just be enjoying a temporary bump because of all the coverage he garnered leading up to and after his announcement. “Governor Perry is enjoying a bounce from entering the race at precisely the right time,” he said.

“Now the difficult part begins for the new frontrunner. It’s much easier winning support when people are hoping you will get in the race, than retaining support when you are the frontrunner.”


Poll: Rick Perry Leads GOP Field, 11% Ahead Of Mitt Romney | Etidbits.com



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Yes, that was proven during the last Presidential election. Racists, rednecks, gun nuts

given that Obama won the last election, you are evidently under the impression that Obama was elected because of his race?
 
Its because people don't know him yet. Perry doesn't stand a chance once he is exposed. He is way too evangelical and right-wing for the vast majority of America outside the radical south. His record in Texas is not good. He touts his "job creation" but the reality shows that Texas standard of living has fallen dramatically and has the highest percentage of minimum wage and below minimum wage jobs in the country.

He would be worse than the last Texas Governor Disaster in the whitehouse.

Hmm, sounds like everything a conservative needs to vote for him. I think it is the lifestyle of Texas that the rightwinged voters agree with, so naturally they see nothing wrong with Perry. All he needs is a catchy phrase like God loves Corporations & Gushers.
 
naturally.

sort of like an old Union Leader who also switched parties as he grew older and the Democratic Party shifted leftward.


:D
 
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naturally.

sort of like an old Union Leader who also switched parties as he grew older and the Democratic Party shifted leftward.


:D


Some candidates have better explanations than others.



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Thanks for your opinion. I've seen your opinions before, so I will stick with the statistics that show the great majority of net job gains in Texas since 2008 have been public jobs, not private, and were funded with the Federal Stimulus money that Rick Perry badmouthed, but accepted more of than any other Governor except for California and New York.

this is incorrect - since the beginning of the recession (Dec 07), only a little under 70,000 of the jobs created in Texas have been public-sector.

since you like statistics, here are some interesting facts that generally demonstrate that the left's futile flailing trying to dispel Perry's superior record to that of the President are based in more in panic than in reality:

1. Texas’ unemployment rate of 8.2% belies its alleged jobs growth. Shapiro charted Texas’ employment data, and found that, in terms of the absolute number of jobs now vs. prior to the recession, Texas has performed better than any other major state. In addition, according to his analysis, the unemployment rate in Texas is artificially boosted by substantial migration to Texas from other states; since December 2007, 739,000 people moved to Texas.

2. Texas’ jobs are low-paying: Texas’ median hourly wage is $15.14, ranking 28th; however, Texas’ rate of hourly wage growth since the recession is 6th-fastest in the nation.

3. The recent boom in oil and energy prices is responsible for Texas’ performance. New jobs in the energy sector account for around one-quarter of Texas’ increase in the past year; however, “take the energy sector completely out of the equation and Texas is still growing faster than any other state.”

4. Texas’ jobs performance is inflated by public sector jobs growth. “Counting from the beginning of the recession (December 2007) the Texas public sector has grown 3.8%, or a little under 70,000 employees. This is faster than normal employment, but it’s not off the charts.”....



the author of this particular study ( who isn't exactly a Perry fan ) concludes:

....My advice to anti-Perry advocates is this: Give up talking about Texas jobs. Texas is an incredible outlier among the states when it comes to jobs. Not only are they creating them, they’re creating ones with higher wages.

One can argue that Perry had very little to do with the job situation in Texas, but such a person should be probably prepare themselves for the consequences of that line of reasoning. If Rick Perry had nothing to do with creating jobs in Texas, than why does Obama have something to do with creating jobs anywhere? And why would someone advocate any sort of “job creating” policies if policies don’t seem to matter in when it comes to the decade long governor of Texas? In short, it seems to me that this line of reasoning, in addition to sounding desperate and partisan, hogties its adherents into a position where they are simultaneously saying that government doesn’t create jobs while arguing for a set of policies where government will create jobs...

People will continue to argue about the data. But hopefully this will be helpful in sorting out reality from wishful and desperate thinking...
 
digging into the laughably foolish abuse of numbers inherent in that claim:

With the latest Gallup poll showing that just 26 percent of Americans approve of President Obama’s performance on the economy, liberals have little choice but to try to distort what is happening in Texas. To do so, they will have to rely on sleight of hand.

Krugman continued:

In June 2011, the Texas unemployment rate was 8.2 percent. That was less than unemployment in collapsed-bubble states like California and Florida, but it was slightly higher than the unemployment rate in New York, and significantly higher than the rate in Massachusetts. . . .


change_in_unemployment_texas.jpg


But things in America are a lot worse than the unemployment numbers indicate, for the simple reason that many people have given up looking for work altogether, thus completely removing themselves from the labor force. This complicates the numbers, as people do not fall out of the “unemployed” column only when they get a job, but also when they stop looking for one. If we are to see a recovery, we will need to lower the unemployment rate by returning Americans to work. Unfortunately, job seekers’ simply giving up has been a hallmark of the Obama administration. During the Obama “recovery,” about 2.8 million Americans have given up and completely stopped looking for work.

This is why, even though Texas has created lots of jobs, its official unemployment rate is similar to those in “blue states” like New York and Massachusetts. It is a superficial similarity. While Texas’s labor force has grown by 350,000 since the recession ended in June 2009, Massachusetts’s has remained virtually unchanged, and New York’s has fallen by 140,000.

change_in_labor_force_texas.jpg


Keeping a similar unemployment rate to Texas’s isn’t quite the wonderful accomplishment it seems to be when so many people have given up looking for work...

That's a loaded statistic. Texas has added more people in the last decade than any other state. It HAS to add a lot of jobs just to break even.

Sorry, but unemployment percentages remain the more important indicator.
 
given that Obama won the last election, you are evidently under the impression that Obama was elected because of his race?

I'd reply to this if I had any clue what you were talking about.

Obama was elected because about 10 million more Americans voted for him than voted for John McCain. That translated into a severe butt-kicking, electoral college wise.

Generally that's how it works, unless it's 2000 and Al Gore gets the most votes but loses.

Jeez, don't you Conservatives know anything?
 
Keeping a similar unemployment rate to Texas’s isn’t quite the wonderful accomplishment it seems to be when so many people have given up looking for work...

Thanks for you opinion!

"Perry says the "Texas miracle" rests on conservative pillars that he would bring to the White House: minimal regulation, minimal government, low taxes and a determination to limit the reach of Uncle Sam.

What he does not say is that much of that job growth has come because of government, not in spite of it.

With a young and fast-growing population, a large and expanding military presence and an influx of federal stimulus money, the number of government jobs in Texas has grown at more than double the rate of private-sector employment during Perry's tenure.

The disparity has grown even sharper since the national recession hit. Between December 2007 and last June, private-sector employment in Texas has declined by 0.6 percent while public-sector jobs increased by 6.4 percent, according to the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics. Overall, government employees account for about one-sixth of the workers in Texas."
Perry boasts of 'Texas miracle'; data show big government role - TwinCities.com
 
Yes, that was proven during the last Presidential election. Racists, rednecks, gun nuts - delusion and paranoia seems to be par for the course for you.

I'm not sure where you live, but it must not be the same country as me--perhaps not even the same universe. Maybe you should visit redneck country some time. You'd find some of the best and kindest Americans anywhere.
 
I'm not sure where you live, but it must not be the same country as me--perhaps not even the same universe. Maybe you should visit redneck country some time. You'd find some of the best and kindest Americans anywhere.

"We rural and small-town mutt people seem by an early age to have a special capacity for cruelty. For instance, as a child did you ever put a firecrack up a toad’s ass and light it? George W. Bush and I have that in common. As nonwhites the world round understand, white people can be mean, especially if they feel threatened–and they feel threatened about everything these days. But when you provide a certain species of white mutt people with the right incentives, such as approval from God and government, you get things like lynchings, Fallujah, the Birmingham bombers. You get Abu Ghraib." - From Deer Hunting with Jesus by Joe Bageant
 
"We rural and small-town mutt people seem by an early age to have a special capacity for cruelty. For instance, as a child did you ever put a firecrack up a toad’s ass and light it? George W. Bush and I have that in common. As nonwhites the world round understand, white people can be mean, especially if they feel threatened–and they feel threatened about everything these days. But when you provide a certain species of white mutt people with the right incentives, such as approval from God and government, you get things like lynchings, Fallujah, the Birmingham bombers. You get Abu Ghraib." - From Deer Hunting with Jesus by Joe Bageant

Oh yeah. One guy generalizing himself and his kin is such an accurate representation of the south. Good play.
 
Oh yeah. One guy generalizing himself and his kin is such an accurate representation of the south. Good play.

I see you know nothing about the research he conducted for the book, but that it didn't stop you from exposing your ignorance of it.

Are you expecting a gold star now????

I live about 2 hours closer to the heart of redneck country than where the author grew up, and I can tell you for a fact, he and the many he interviewed, speak the truth.
 
I'm amazed any rational person would support any candidate as obviously stupid as Rick Perry. Unless, of course, you believe in secession.

Oh wait, Virginia...Conservative....

Never mind.
 
I see you know nothing about the research he conducted for the book, but that it didn't stop you from exposing your ignorance of it.

Are you expecting a gold star now????

I live about 2 hours closer to the heart of redneck country than where the author grew up, and I can tell you for a fact, he and the many he interviewed, speak the truth.

I've lived in "redneck country" for 20+ years. I'm not impressed with a generalization of a cluster of the population being applied to an incredibly diverse region.
 
I've lived in "redneck country" for 20+ years. I'm not impressed with a generalization of a cluster of the population being applied to an incredibly diverse region.

Ah, a newcomer, that explains it! :sun
 
I'm not sure where you live, but it must not be the same country as me--perhaps not even the same universe. Maybe you should visit redneck country some time. You'd find some of the best and kindest Americans anywhere.

Yeah, as long as you're a bible thumpin', gun-totin', right wing white guy (oh wait, that's redundant, isn't it?). I'm guessing those folks get treated really well. After all, they're 'Real Americans, right'?
 
I've lived in "redneck country" for 20+ years. I'm not impressed with a generalization of a cluster of the population being applied to an incredibly diverse region.

Yeah, you only have to see who gets elected from there to understand just how 'diverse' redneck country is.
 
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