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What's Really Going on in Oregon! Taking Back the Narrative !

What if the people push and lobby their national lawmakers to overide a state law?

cant do that, because the federal government [congress] cannot nullify a state power, the people just don't like, .but the law can be challenged in court and stuck down.
 
i told you in easiest terms possible.

anytime federal and state powers overlap, the federal government has authoirty.

"Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
are you saying the federal government can just nullify any state law because they do not like it?

the founders of the convention denied the federal government power to nullify state laws, the federal government does not like -- may 31st 1787"

It's like talking to a rodeo clown.
 
"Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post

are you saying the federal government can just nullify any state law because they do not like it?

the founders of the convention denied the federal government power to nullify state laws, the federal government does not like -- may 31st 1787"

It's like talking to a rodeo clown.

its very clear, i was asking you a question
 
its very clear, i was asking you a question


This is what you were asked:

What? You can't do it?

The quoted posted asked:

Please deliver to us, if you will, the text of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause.

Thank you in advance.

Be a man, post it.
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You could not answer. That much is clear.
 
This is what you were asked:

What? You can't do it?

The quoted posted asked:

Please deliver to us, if you will, the text of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause.

Thank you in advance.

Be a man, post it.
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You could not answer. That much is clear.

i was very clear, but in you attempt to TRY TO FIND FAULT YOU FAILED.

i asked you the question.

i provided the answer, the federal government [ congress ] cannot nullify state law, the people of a state just don't like, the people would have to make court challenge to get the law, stuck down, via the court,...not by a legisltiure.

Supremacy Clause MEANING

Any federal system needs a strategy for dealing with potential conflicts between the national and local governments. There are at least three strategies available. First, each government could be given exclusive jurisdiction over its respective sphere, which would, at least in theory, avoid altogether the possibility of direct conflict. Second, the governments could have concurrent jurisdiction, but one government could be given power to veto actions of the other, either in the event of actual conflict or in general classes of cases. Third, both governments could be allowed to act without mutual interference, but one government's acts could be given primacy over the other's acts in the event of actual conflict.

The Supremacy Clause embodies the third strategy. It is a conflict-of-laws rule specifying that certain national acts take priority over any state acts that conflict with national law. In this respect, the Supremacy Clause follows the lead of Article XIII of the Articles of Confederation, which provided that "[e]very state shall abide by the determinations of the united states in congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them."

the Supremacy Clause does not authorize congress to nullify JUST any state law


Day-by-Day Summary of the Convention | Teaching American History

MAY 31ST 1787

The other clauses, giving powers necessary to preserve harmony among the States, to negative all State laws contravening, in the opinion of the National Legislature, the Articles of Union, down to the last clause, (the words, “or any treaties subsisting under the authority of the Union,” being added after the words “contravening, &c. the Articles of the Union,” on motion of Doctor FRANKLIN) were agreed to without debate or dissent.

The last clause of the sixth Resolution, authorizing an exertion of the force of the whole against a delinquent State, came next into consideration.

Mr. MADISON observed, that the more he reflected on the use of force, the more he doubted the practicability, the justice and the efficacy of it, when applied to people collectively, and not individually. An union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a State would look more like a declaration of war than an infliction of punishment; and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound. He hoped that such a system would be framed as might render this resource unnecessary, and moved that the clause be postponed. This motion was agreed to, nem. con.

The Committee then rose, and the House adjourned.

POWER TO NEGATIVE STATE LAWS IN DENIED!
 
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This is what you were asked:

What? You can't do it?

The quoted posted asked:

Please deliver to us, if you will, the text of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause.

Thank you in advance.

Be a man, post it.
====================
You could not answer. That much is clear.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

ARTICLE VI
 
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

ARTICLE VI

There ya go.
 
There ya go.


thanks for showing me you have no understanding of the law!

constitutional law is supreme, however if a state law is not contrary to the constitution .........meaning :if the power of the law is not a delegated power of congress... its not contrary...LOL.....wow!......you really don't know anything!
 
Perhaps not checked well enough.

Case in point, Dred Scott...

Which could have been checked how besides what we did? No one said the system was perfect, but considering the biggest complaints about the SCOTUS is from states against them when states want to limit the rights of the people in those states, it is interesting how that decision could be used an example of why they are the problem.
 
I've noticed a lot more criticisms of the supreme court as an institution in general these days than I ever have before. not necessarily about one particular case, but people complaining about its very existence. I honestly believe most of this is from a backlash to the whole gay marriage thingie. it made a good portion of the country's heads explode, and the reaction is that "well if they can legalize gay marriage, they have too much power".

the lady in the OP's video is way, way off base.
 
I don't support this particular group of people in Oregon. They are going about it in the wrong way.

If they really wanted to represent the victims of unlawful government land grabs, they should lawyer up and take it to the SCOTUS

Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17 is in their favor, and I think the SCOTUS would agree.

There is no reason for the government to control 28% - 30% of the land within our borders.
 
I don't support this particular group of people in Oregon. They are going about it in the wrong way.

If they really wanted to represent the victims of unlawful government land grabs, they should lawyer up and take it to the SCOTUS

Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17 is in their favor, and I think the SCOTUS would agree.

There is no reason for the government to control 28% - 30% of the land within our borders.

Article 1 Section 8 Clause 17 is a clause i have been over many times, which creates the seat of power D.C. where only federal power can be exercised, and the federal government needs the approval of a state government for where the federal government may wish to built useful structures [federal buildings and such] it needs.

when approved by the state legislature the property will cease to be under state authority and turned over to federal authority.

HOWEVER, the congress has no federal legislative authority off of federal property - constitutional convention sept 5 1787
 
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