Thread: Why Obama's Healthcare Law Is Constitutional

Originally Posted by xpiher

The point is the affect is the same. Get health insurance pay less in taxes.

this is when I say I disagree and leave the debate at that

But again, when looking at the whole picture the effect is not the same. One makes it to where only the government is involved. The other opens the door to makeing it to where the government can make you buy any product from any private company. Which then allows those companies to lobby, and get, laws that favor them.

Originally Posted by Kal'Stang

But again, when looking at the whole picture the effect is not the same. One makes it to where only the government is involved. The other opens the door to makeing it to where the government can make you buy any product from any private company. Which then allows those companies to lobby, and get, laws that favor them.

Apparently you aren't familiar with how narrow the court can rule on an issue. If the court wants, it can make it's ruling only affect the law that is being herd and nothing else. I would not be surprised if that is what happens in this case.

Originally Posted by Harshaw

'Fraid not. It's the commerce clause, baby.

that may be it's claim and what they argued, but that's not what actually being done IMO. Which is why the court wanted to hear that side of the argument. Doesn't matter really as none of us are the ones Wii well decide the issue. As I've said, it's likely the mandate well get shot down, but it's just as likely that it woo be up held with a very narrow reading. Either way, it's likely to get amended with a public option

Originally Posted by xpiher

Apparently you aren't familiar with how narrow the court can rule on an issue. If the court wants, it can make it's ruling only affect the law that is being herd and nothing else. I would not be surprised if that is what happens in this case.



that may be it's claim and what they argued, but that's not what actually being done IMO. Which is why the court wanted to hear that side of the argument. Doesn't matter really as none of us are the ones Wii well decide the issue. As I've said, it's likely the mandate well get shot down, but it's just as likely that it woo be up held with a very narrow reading. Either way, it's likely to get amended with a public option

If they want to argue it as a tax, it's far easier with existing precedent, and Constitutional language, to knock it down. Which is why the government is relying on the Commerce Clause.

Originally Posted by xpiher

Apparently you aren't familiar with how narrow the court can rule on an issue. If the court wants, it can make it's ruling only affect the law that is being herd and nothing else. I would not be surprised if that is what happens in this case.

Oh I know that they can have a ruling so narrow that it couldn't fit up an ants butthole. But I believe that what I have said should be considered first and foremost. And they did consider it in the arguements that I read. Whether or not they actually took those arguements seriously... well, I don't know.

Originally Posted by 99percenter

Why Obama's Healthcare Law Is Constitutional | The Nation

I cannot see in this article where it proves that the Constitution supports Obama's healthcare plan. Also, where in the Constitution does it say that I support radical thinking if I don't want Obama Care?

Healthcare law...or no Healthcare law...the same people will pay for the uninsured in this country either way. The difference is the uninsured would get better care under the healthcare law than they do in emergency rooms...but the cost is the same Id bet.
I was totally against obama care when Pelosi' gloating glaring face was in the media everyday telling us we were getting it whether we wanted it or not...and you have to pass it to know whats in it. I still think obama care is a badly written law that wont work...Ive personally already felt the results of obama care via my wifes health care plan...BCBS...the law should be scrapped and re written by more imput from Health Professionals and yes the insurance industry....I dont think it can be fixed the way it is..