World's best hospitals

[Allan]

The link below is a list of the world's best hospitals for 2024. The list can be filtered by country.

The point I'd make here is that most countries on the list have universal healthcare and are obviously able to adequately fund excellent facilities. For example Toronto General is ranked 3rd in the world and other Canadian hospitals are well represented on the list of the top 250.

World's Best Hospitals 2024

Newsweek has partnered with Statista for its annual ranking of the world's best hospitals, a series that began in March 2019. This year, the list includes data on 2,400 hospitals across 30 countries.

www.newsweek.com

 

[ttwtt78640]

The link below is a list of the world's best hospitals for 2024. The list can be filtered by country.

The point I'd make here is that most countries on the list have universal healthcare and are obviously able to adequately fund excellent facilities. For example Toronto General is ranked 3rd in the world and other Canadian hospitals are well represented on the list of the top 250.

World's Best Hospitals 2024

Newsweek has partnered with Statista for its annual ranking of the world's best hospitals, a series that began in March 2019. This year, the list includes data on 2,400 hospitals across 30 countries.

www.newsweek.com

Hmm… yet 4 of the 5 top hospitals listed were in the US, which lacks UHC.

 

[Allan]

Hmm… yet 4 of the 5 top hospitals listed were in the US, which lacks UCH.

I wasn't excluding the US which has nice facilities. My point is that they also exist in UHC systems.

But if we're going to cherry pick: 6 of the top 10 are UHC.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I wasn't excluding the US which has nice facilities. My point is that they also exist in UHC systems.

OK.

 

[eman623]

 

[Lisa]

Hmm… yet 4 of the 5 top hospitals listed were in the US, which lacks UHC.

Many people cannot access medical care at those hospitals because of the price of medical care. That problem needs to be fixed.

 

[MamboDervish]

The link below is a list of the world's best hospitals for 2024. The list can be filtered by country.

The point I'd make here is that most countries on the list have universal healthcare and are obviously able to adequately fund excellent facilities. For example Toronto General is ranked 3rd in the world and other Canadian hospitals are well represented on the list of the top 250.

World's Best Hospitals 2024

Newsweek has partnered with Statista for its annual ranking of the world's best hospitals, a series that began in March 2019. This year, the list includes data on 2,400 hospitals across 30 countries.

www.newsweek.com

A strangely reassuring list. It's good to see I have two such highly rated ones available to me, should the need for one arise again. I have personal experience with both Mt. Sinai, and NY Presbyterian, and I, too, would have rated Sinai above NY Pres.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Many people cannot access medical care at those hospitals because of the price of medical care. That problem needs to be fixed.

Hmm… maybe we should pass PPACA.

 

[phoenix2020]

8 of the top 20 being in the US is quite impressive.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

The link below is a list of the world's best hospitals for 2024. The list can be filtered by country.

The point I'd make here is that most countries on the list have universal healthcare and are obviously able to adequately fund excellent facilities. For example Toronto General is ranked 3rd in the world and other Canadian hospitals are well represented on the list of the top 250.

World's Best Hospitals 2024

Newsweek has partnered with Statista for its annual ranking of the world's best hospitals, a series that began in March 2019. This year, the list includes data on 2,400 hospitals across 30 countries.

www.newsweek.com

I daresay the Long Beach Veterans Administration Healthcare System in Long Beach California deserves to be on a list among the best.

 

[Lovebug]

The link below is a list of the world's best hospitals for 2024. The list can be filtered by country.

The point I'd make here is that most countries on the list have universal healthcare and are obviously able to adequately fund excellent facilities. For example Toronto General is ranked 3rd in the world and other Canadian hospitals are well represented on the list of the top 250.

World's Best Hospitals 2024

Newsweek has partnered with Statista for its annual ranking of the world's best hospitals, a series that began in March 2019. This year, the list includes data on 2,400 hospitals across 30 countries.

www.newsweek.com

Sadly, and without having checked your link, knowing about the best placed won't help anyone who doesn't have access.
So, to your point, we can only hope to address universal health care in this country once we have elected willing and capable members of both houses and a compassionate potus.
Until then we have to rely on our health care professionals who do their utmost best to keep us alive. We do have them in this country.

 

[Lovebug]

I daresay the Long Beach Veterans Administration Healthcare System in Long Beach California deserves to be on a list among the best.

Karen keeps them on their toes?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Karen keeps them on their toes?

Well they have saved her life nine times so far.
EDIT: Oh wait, the Dallas VA saved her life the first two or three times...then we moved back to Los Angeles and Long Beach VA has been our home base ever since.

 

[LostInSeattle]

Hmm… yet 4 of the 5 top hospitals listed were in the US, which lacks UHC.

Hmm, now if only everyone could access them.

 

[multivita-man]

Hmm… yet 4 of the 5 top hospitals listed were in the US, which lacks UHC.

The difference? Canadians don't have to worry about being bankrupted after they get discharged.

 

[multivita-man]

Many people cannot access medical care at those hospitals because of the price of medical care. That problem needs to be fixed.

I also wonder if the list isn't biased in some way. There are good hospitals in so-called "developing" countries that are probably being overlooked, possibly because they may not have some of the amenities that Western hospitals have, or they may not have as many specialists or may not have research-teaching functions. I suspect some of the 'best' hospitals are also probably living off their name prestige and, while probably still quite good, may not be performing as well as advertised when doing a deeper dive into patient outcomes.

 

[multivita-man]

Focusing on hospitals is also misleading. What's more important is how the overall health system functions. I am reminded periodically of how our system is a dressed up piece of shit - pretty much every time I have to need to see a specialist and have to book appointments weeks out in advance. If I get some emergency, I can either go to McClinic (aka "urgent care") where I'm seen by junior varsity "doctors" taking a wild guess at what my condition might be, or I can go to the emergency room, wait for hours while I get worse, and then get treated and wait a few weeks for sticker shock. That's the American system, and it ****ing sucks. I don't care how many hospitals we have in the top ten.

In Japan, it was first-come, first-serve, and I saw real doctors. ER visits were also like half the price.

 

[MamboDervish]

I also wonder if the list isn't biased in some way. There are good hospitals in so-called "developing" countries that are probably being overlooked, possibly because they may not have some of the amenities that Western hospitals have, or they may not have as many specialists or may not have research-teaching functions.

Part of the formula for determining "the best hospitals" would naturally include having the most to offer, because offering the most will naturally lead to the best outcomes, and the best reviews.

I suspect some of the 'best' hospitals are also probably living off their name prestige and, while probably still quite good, may not be performing as well as advertised when doing a deeper dive into patient outcomes.

Humans are flawed, ergo any endeavor undertaken by humans is flawed, including polls, data collection, compilation, interpretation, etc. All of these types of reports need to be taken with a grain of salt, but as a general guideline, they still serve an important purpose.

 

[BirdinHand]

This makes me smile - one of my very best friends in real life is in senior leadership for talent at Mt Sinai in NY. Good for her and her team. They have worked incredibly hard to get some of the best professionals possible there…from your lab techs on up…and she’s always cutting into her personal time to take calls from different managers and depts about their needs.

 

[multivita-man]

All of these types of reports need to be taken with a grain of salt, but as a general guideline, they still serve an important purpose.

I'd be more convinced with an aggregate lists of lists.

 

[MamboDervish]

This makes me smile - one of my very best friends in real life is in senior leadership for talent at Mt Sinai in NY. Good for her and her team. They have worked incredibly hard to get some of the best professionals possible there…from your lab techs on up…and she’s always cutting into her personal time to take calls from different managers and depts about their needs.

Healthcare for any human body is incredibly complicated, because every system in the body is impacted by every other system. What most impressed me about Mt. Sinai was how seamlessly integrated their various medical disciplines and departments were, despite very often not even being in the same building. Every staff member I came into contact with was attentive, professional, and helpful in the most sincere way.

They do a wonderful job, and that impression is reinforced by seeing them placed among the top 25 in the world. I'm not at all surprised.

 

[Lisa]

I also wonder if the list isn't biased in some way. There are good hospitals in so-called "developing" countries that are probably being overlooked, possibly because they may not have some of the amenities that Western hospitals have, or they may not have as many specialists or may not have research-teaching functions. I suspect some of the 'best' hospitals are also probably living off their name prestige and, while probably still quite good, may not be performing as well as advertised when doing a deeper dive into patient outcomes.

I have a Dr at the 2nd best hospital. Thankfully, my insurance is part of their network.

In many areas, those great hospitals are middle of the road because they all seem to have their specialties.

 

[multivita-man]

I have a Dr at the 2nd best hospital. Thankfully, my insurance is part of their network.

The thing is, even if your hospital is part of a your network, there are providers within hospitals that may not be. It's just a shit-sandwich of a system.

 

[Lisa]

The thing is, even if your hospital is part of a your network, there are providers within hospitals that may not be. It's just a shit-sandwich of a system.

That is absolutely true. I know a Dr at the CCF who is dangerous. He was my Dr for a few years at a different hospital and I reported him to the state medical board after is decisions put me in the hospital and then tried to blame me for the repercussions his actions.

I had a psychiatrist at UH during the Covid19 lockdown (#154) who is nuts.

Edit, His hospital profile says that he is not accepting new patients, so others are safe from him.