Win 10 Home.

Kal'Stang · Dec 27, 2015

Thanks to a blue screen error that I have been receiving (critical_structure_corruption) I found out that at the moment the only way for me to get rid of it is to remove some win 10 updates. (all drivers are up to date) Removing updates is easy enough to do. The problem is that once you remove them you cannot block them so as to prevent them from coming back. You have no choice but to get them re-installed on your computer. Read on...

You Won’t Be Able to Disable (or Delay) Windows Updates on Windows 10 Home

In otherwords folks, all us lowly home users are just guinea pigs for businesses.

JANFU · Dec 27, 2015

Kal'Stang said:
Thanks to a blue screen error that I have been receiving (critical_structure_corruption) I found out that at the moment the only way for me to get rid of it is to remove some win 10 updates. (all drivers are up to date) Removing updates is easy enough to do. The problem is that once you remove them you cannot block them so as to prevent them from coming back. You have no choice but to get them re-installed on your computer. Read on...

You Won’t Be Able to Disable (or Delay) Windows Updates on Windows 10 Home

In otherwords folks, all us lowly home users are just guinea pigs for businesses.

maybe not????

How to Prevent Windows 10 From Automatically Downloading Updates

If Windows 10 insists on installing a specific update or driver that’s causing problems, you can prevent Windows Update from installing that particular update. Microsoft doesn’t provide a built-in way to block updates and drivers from automatically being downloaded, but it does offer a downloadable tool that can block updates and drivers so Windows won’t download them. This gives you a way to opt out of specific updates — uninstall them and “hide” them from being installed until you unhide them

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/turn-off-windows-update-in-windows-10

Turn off Windows Updates in Windows 10
You can do this using the Windows Update service. Via Control Panel > Administrative Tools, you can access Services. In the Services window, scroll down to Windows Update and turn off the process. To turn it off, right-click on the process, click on Properties and select Disabled. That will take care of Windows Updates not being installed on your machine.

PoS · Dec 27, 2015

Yep, its been discussed in previous threads here about being unable to stop Win10 from updating but many of the Microsoft vendors here dismissed it as nothing to be worried about... go figure!

Fearandloathing · Dec 27, 2015

Kal'Stang said:
Thanks to a blue screen error that I have been receiving (critical_structure_corruption) I found out that at the moment the only way for me to get rid of it is to remove some win 10 updates. (all drivers are up to date) Removing updates is easy enough to do. The problem is that once you remove them you cannot block them so as to prevent them from coming back. You have no choice but to get them re-installed on your computer. Read on...

You Won’t Be Able to Disable (or Delay) Windows Updates on Windows 10 Home

In otherwords folks, all us lowly home users are just guinea pigs for businesses.

I hate Windows 10.

The media player is dark ages, the system isn't slow switching between drives it's glacial before global warming. Every now and then I get "your computer has had a problem and Windows 10 needs to close" and then it does and sometimes it will restart itself,, sometimes not.
Firefox hates it, and closes itself at least once a day.
And not finally, but the last of this list, I cannot turn off the mandatory log in.

Chomsky · Dec 27, 2015

I'm sticking with Win 7!

It does what I need it to, and nothing I don't want it to!

Why change?

Riveroaks · Dec 27, 2015

Kal'Stang said:
Thanks to a blue screen error that I have been receiving (critical_structure_corruption) I found out that at the moment the only way for me to get rid of it is to remove some win 10 updates. (all drivers are up to date) Removing updates is easy enough to do. The problem is that once you remove them you cannot block them so as to prevent them from coming back. You have no choice but to get them re-installed on your computer. Read on...

You Won’t Be Able to Disable (or Delay) Windows Updates on Windows 10 Home

In otherwords folks, all us lowly home users are just guinea pigs for businesses.

I understand some of this jargon but not all of it.

I can see that Microsoft has already loaded the WIN-10 update onto my laptop.

However it keeps asking me if I want to "update" (i.e. "implement") it.

KAL are you saying it is better to WAIT and NOT DO IT ??

Riveroaks · Dec 27, 2015

Chomsky said:
I'm sticking with Win 7!

It does what I need it to, and nothing I don't want it to!

Why change?

If it makes sense to stick with WIN-7 then I will also stick with it.

I have hear about nothing but problems with WIN-10.

It's like anything else Microsoft releases -- premature and all mucked up.

Riveroaks · Dec 27, 2015

PoS said:
Yep, its been discussed in previous threads here about being unable to stop Win10 from updating but many of the Microsoft vendors here dismissed it as nothing to be worried about... go figure!

That's political double-speak. Businessmen(people) are liars and always have been. Wall Street makes it even worse.

Lovebug · Dec 27, 2015

Win 10 sucks. Took me about an hour to learn to hate it/uninstalled it.

Fearandloathing · Dec 27, 2015

Chomsky said:
I'm sticking with Win 7!

It does what I need it to, and nothing I don't want it to!

Why change?

I was convinced that 7 will no longer be supported in a very short period of time.

I have to say the feel and look of 10, take the time to learn and you have tons of options, short cuts, and one step can find you anything. The search engine is slow on my system, but that's my old drives I suspect. I should bite the bullet and reconfigure with three of four terrabyte drives, now I have six drives, one one terrabyte three 500 GB's, and two 200 BG drives

Helix · Dec 27, 2015

my main problem with PCs is that most of them still use traditional hard drives. i got an Apple in February. it has a SSD, and when i hit the power button, it is fully functional almost immediately. i don't have to walk away and cook dinner while waiting for the computer to work.

Win 7 was pretty good. Win 8 was more wonky and less intuitive. i'll check out Win 10 at some point, because i like learning operating systems. Android on my phone has been pretty good, as well.

Chomsky · Dec 27, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
I was convinced that 7 will no longer be supported in a very short period of time.

I have to say the feel and look of 10, take the time to learn and you have tons of options, short cuts, and one step can find you anything. The search engine is slow on my system, but that's my old drives I suspect. I should bite the bullet and reconfigure with three of four terrabyte drives, now I have six drives, one one terrabyte three 500 GB's, and two 200 BG drives

I would highly recommend using an SSD for your system drive, irrespective of whatever type of storage drives you prefer to use for you data.

You'll find the speed difference shocking, if you've never experienced an SSD before..

Helix said:
my main problem with PCs is that most of them still use traditional hard drives. i got an Apple in February. it has a SSD, and when i hit the power button, it is fully functional almost immediately. i don't have to walk away and cook dinner while waiting for the computer to work.

Win 7 was pretty good. Win 8 was more wonky and less intuitive. i'll check out Win 10 at some point, because i like learning operating systems. Android on my phone has been pretty good, as well.

There ya go!

And decent SSDs can be had for a 100 bucks or so! :thumbs:

Fearandloathing · Dec 27, 2015

Helix said:
my main problem with PCs is that most of them still use traditional hard drives. i got an Apple in February. it has a SSD, and when i hit the power button, it is fully functional almost immediately. i don't have to walk away and cook dinner while waiting for the computer to work.

Win 7 was pretty good. Win 8 was more wonky and less intuitive. i'll check out Win 10 at some point, because i like learning operating systems. Android on my phone has been pretty good, as well.

Win 10 you will hate. I have three minutes to get to the log-in screen then about ten to load the OS. It's like my old 286 with 4 MB memory. It had a Seagate 251-1 32 MB drive. I would come home from work, turn on the computer, undress and take a shower and by the time I was dressed again Windows 2.2 had loaded.

(That box was built out of scrap parts, the drive was notorious for failure and it was 16 bit when everything was 32. I wrote the business plans of three companies on that box, and when it came time I took it to the office and used it as a printer server - far as I know it's still a printer driver

Helix · Dec 27, 2015

Chomsky said:
I would highly recommend using an SSD for your system drive, irrespective of whatever type of storage drives you prefer to use for you data.

You'll find the speed difference shocking, if you've never experienced an SSD before..

There ya go!

And decent SSDs can be had for a 100 bucks or so! :thumbs:

it's amazing. i just hit the button, and it's fully functional in about 12 seconds. i've been waiting for that since i booted up a TRS80 in 1983.

also, i want Oregon Trail and B52 Bomber.

Helix · Dec 27, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
Win 10 you will hate. I have three minutes to get to the log-in screen then about ten to load the OS. It's like my old 286 with 4 MB memory. It had a Seagate 251-1 32 MB drive. I would come home from work, turn on the computer, undress and take a shower and by the time I was dressed again Windows 2.2 had loaded.

(That box was built out of scrap parts, the drive was notorious for failure and it was 16 bit when everything was 32. I wrote the business plans of three companies on that box, and when it came time I took it to the office and used it as a printer server - far as I know it's still a printer driver

when i entered college, i had a 386 with a forty meg hard drive that i upgraded the **** out of. replaced the 2400 baud modem with a 14.4, and i thought i was flying. used to call all of the local BBSs and download games and programs from them. my buddy had a 486 66 with a turbo button on it, and i was super jealous.

i remember when i added a 100 meg drive to it. i wondered how i would ever fill that up. didn't even have to use doublespace.

Fearandloathing · Dec 27, 2015

Helix said:
when i entered college, i had a 386 with a forty meg hard drive that i upgraded the **** out of. replaced the 2400 baud modem with a 14.4, and i thought i was flying. used to call all of the local BBSs and download games and programs from them. my buddy had a 486 66 with a turbo button on it, and i was super jealous.

i remember when i added a 100 meg drive to it. i wondered how i would ever fill that up. didn't even have to use doublespace.

Yeah, I got into the computer business selling Everex boxes when the 386 32-bit was the 'next best thing'. Later, I ended up selling DEC's DECchip 21064 processor, or the "Alpha" chip a 64-bit RISC architecture the first "pure" 64-bit microprocessor architectures.

THAT box could move! We, tested it against a three dimensional surveyor drawing [for the oil industry]. The Alpha loaded that drawing in 37 seconds. The 486 Intel too 11 minutes plus.

Wish that box was still around

Lutherf · Dec 27, 2015

I recently purchased a new machine for home. It came with Windows 10 and so far so good.

While I'm not particularly thrilled about another "app store" it seems like that's the direction everything is headed so cest la vie. Other than that, getting around the OS is a little different than W7 but way better than W8 was. I haven't had any boot up problems but it is installed on an SSD so that may be the difference.

Fearandloathing · Dec 27, 2015

Lutherf said:
I recently purchased a new machine for home. It came with Windows 10 and so far so good.

While I'm not particularly thrilled about another "app store" it seems like that's the direction everything is headed so cest la vie. Other than that, getting around the OS is a little different than W7 but way better than W8 was. I haven't had any boot up problems but it is installed on an SSD so that may be the difference.

Give it some time. The single thing that makes me want to keep Win10 is how easy and fast it is to find stuff.

Chomsky · Dec 27, 2015

Helix said:
it's amazing. i just hit the button, and it's fully functional in about 12 seconds. i've been waiting for that since i booted up a TRS80 in 1983.

also, i want Oregon Trail and B52 Bomber.

We've had nothing but SSD system drives in my house for the last 3 years (they were $250-500 then!). I was an early adopter in my laptop, and when my family saw the remarkable difference they all insisted I share the love! And I did, as prices quickly dropped from then.

Today, I would never consider a mechanical drive for my family, or when giving advice to others. The additional component cost is quite low ($30-70) if you can accept moderate capacity (120 - 250GB), but that's no problem since you can buy a large external mechanical drive to inexpensively archive the data & media you don't need for everyday use. I get along very well with a 120GB SSD main system drive in my laptop, that now costs maybe 60 bucks.

The only problem is when buying a ready built & configured system: The manufacturers load up the SSD systems with more and sometimes unnecessary expensive higher spec'd components to make a profit; they know everyone wants the speed of an SSD, and they milk it.

Chomsky · Dec 27, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
Win 10 you will hate. I have three minutes to get to the log-in screen then about ten to load the OS. It's like my old 286 with 4 MB memory. It had a Seagate 251-1 32 MB drive. I would come home from work, turn on the computer, undress and take a shower and by the time I was dressed again Windows 2.2 had loaded.

(That box was built out of scrap parts, the drive was notorious for failure and it was 16 bit when everything was 32. I wrote the business plans of three companies on that box, and when it came time I took it to the office and used it as a printer server - far as I know it's still a printer driver

Fearandloathing said:
Yeah, I got into the computer business selling Everex boxes when the 386 32-bit was the 'next best thing'. Later, I ended up selling DEC's DECchip 21064 processor, or the "Alpha" chip a 64-bit RISC architecture the first "pure" 64-bit microprocessor architectures.

THAT box could move! We, tested it against a three dimensional surveyor drawing [for the oil industry]. The Alpha loaded that drawing in 37 seconds. The 486 Intel too 11 minutes plus.

Wish that box was still around

Alright, I'm fully convinced!

You need an SSD system drive!

$100 bucks from Newegg (NCIX?) is all it takes.

You will thank me profusely! :thumbs:

With your background, I'm surprised you haven't done it already.

Fearandloathing · Dec 27, 2015

Chomsky said:
Alright, I'm fully convinced!

You need an SSD system drive!

$100 bucks from Newegg (NCIX?) is all it takes.

You will thank me profusely! :thumbs:

With your background, I'm surprised you haven't done it already.

I have already e-mailed and gotten a reply from 'my guy' who will send me some prices. I just realized that the 200GB drive is 14 years old! What pisses me off? One entire 500GB consumed for system back up!

PeteEU · Dec 27, 2015

Kal'Stang said:
Thanks to a blue screen error that I have been receiving (critical_structure_corruption) I found out that at the moment the only way for me to get rid of it is to remove some win 10 updates. (all drivers are up to date) Removing updates is easy enough to do. The problem is that once you remove them you cannot block them so as to prevent them from coming back. You have no choice but to get them re-installed on your computer. Read on...

You Won’t Be Able to Disable (or Delay) Windows Updates on Windows 10 Home

In otherwords folks, all us lowly home users are just guinea pigs for businesses.

Try doing a reset of Windows..fixes most problems.

Often the problems people get is because they upgraded, which is never a good idea with any OS. A clean install is best. But there is under Settings > Update & Security > Recovery a way to reset the PC without hurting your files. It works.

Chomsky · Dec 27, 2015

Fearandloathing said:
I have already e-mailed and gotten a reply from 'my guy' who will send me some prices. I just realized that the 200GB drive is 14 years old! What pisses me off? One entire 500GB consumed for system back up!

Most non-SSD systems for general purpose use are HDD bound. Yours definitely is!

You could always image the back-ups to an external drive.

I use small (120-250GB) moderately priced SSDs as my system drives, and am very happy. SSD prices rise steeply with size.

Good luck!

Helix · Dec 27, 2015

Chomsky said:
We've had nothing but SSD system drives in my house for the last 3 years (they were $250-500 then!). I was an early adopter in my laptop, and when my family saw the remarkable difference they all insisted I share the love! And I did, as prices quickly dropped from then.

Today, I would never consider a mechanical drive for my family, or when giving advice to others. The additional component cost is quite low ($30-70) if you can accept moderate capacity (120 - 250GB), but that's no problem since you can buy a large external mechanical drive to inexpensively archive the data & media you don't need for everyday use. I get along very well with a 120GB SSD main system drive in my laptop, that now costs maybe 60 bucks.

The only problem is when buying a ready built & configured system: The manufacturers load up the SSD systems with more and sometimes unnecessary expensive higher spec'd components to make a profit; they know everyone wants the speed of an SSD, and they milk it.

the Mac has a 500 gig SSD. hopefully, it will last me for a while. i guess i could do the whole cloud thing, but i still don't trust it.

Fearandloathing · Dec 27, 2015

Chomsky said:
Most non-SSD systems for general purpose use are HDD bound. Yours definitely is!

You could always image the back-ups to an external drive.

I use small (120-250GB) moderately priced SSDs as my system drives, and am very happy. SSD prices rise steeply with size.

Good luck!

My biggest external, 500GB holds all my music and films. It makes no sense to me to trade. I will see what my guy comes up with, he built this box so it's a matter of $. Knew entire systems here retail as low as $500.

Please don't offer me "good luck" it's a curse with me, that and "you shouldn't have any trouble" usually mean a week of no computer

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