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Adios to Internet Explorer

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Microsoft has announced that the Internet Explorer version (11) in Windows 10 will be the last iteration of this browser. IE will still be bundled in some versions of Windows 10, but it is only there as a legacy browser for certain business applications. Windows 10 will include a brand new browser (Project Spartan) yet to be named. This new browser features a rendering engine called Edge which is supposed to be lighter and much faster than the IE Trident engine. It will also include Microsoft's Cortana digital-assistant features and possess voice-command capability.

The new MS browser should be available for a test run later this month when the Windows 10 preview build is released.
 
Giving it a new name is just a ploy, amazes me people still fall for it.
 
Good. All those POS government websites and web apps that only officially support Internet Explorer will finally have to be upgraded from the dark ages now.

A couple years ago I went through an indoctrination course to be allowed to work on a FEMA project. The instructor in the course claimed that Internet Explorer is the ONLY browser that's allowed on their laptops. I explained that my customers will be using Chrome and FireFox as well, so I need to install those browsers to test. His answer was, "They won't be using it here." Not only was that completely false, but now I get to point and laugh at their idiot policies. =)
 
The only good thing about IE is that it allows me to make firefox my first download in every new set up ;)
 
Good. All those POS government websites and web apps that only officially support Internet Explorer will finally have to be upgraded from the dark ages now.

A couple years ago I went through an indoctrination course to be allowed to work on a FEMA project. The instructor in the course claimed that Internet Explorer is the ONLY browser that's allowed on their laptops. I explained that my customers will be using Chrome and FireFox as well, so I need to install those browsers to test. His answer was, "They won't be using it here." Not only was that completely false, but now I get to point and laugh at their idiot policies. =)

Those aren't idiot policies at all. Settling on an individual browser for intranet work allows the company to use the full feature set of that specific browser. It's as simple as requiring a certain tool for a certain job.

People love to dig on IE, but it was the first browser (outside of Amaya, a reference browser) to include CSS, to do frames. There are still features IE includes that other browsers do not, although as they divorce themselves from the desktop MS has done it's best to kill those. FF is much, much easier to break than IE and it's memory handling is still for ****.
 
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Internet ex... WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???????????
 
Good riddance.

Indeed. Perfect match to my own opinion on this.

IE has been the bane of the Windows user communities for some time now. While based on early Mosaic code base, MS's coders with feet of lead continued to degrade the performance and the security of that code base. Eventually all the applied band-aids caused the framework to collapse into the quivering and useless mess that it is now, typical of long running MickySoft code bases. As a comparison, Apache, which as nearly been around as long as IE, is still tight and excellent performs, so no, it isn't always like that.

Giving it a new name is just a ploy, amazes me people still fall for it.

Or the other version scams that MickeySoft run on their customer base to fleece them. The entire reason for the new ribbon bar? Not enough Office sales, not enough revenue. A feature that's actually worse marketed as something better. What a scam.

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Internet ex... WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???????????

There's that. More solid an OS you'll be hard pressed to find.
 
Those aren't idiot policies at all. Settling on an individual browser for intranet work allows the company to use the full feature set of that specific browser. It's as simple as requiring a certain tool for a certain job.
That wasn't why though. It was for some illusion of security. We were developing a new web application that the general public would be using, not internal government employees. We had to support Chrome and FF as part of the project requirements, but were told we could not install them on our government-provided laptops. We eventually had to use our own PCs for development instead.
 
Indeed. Perfect match to my own opinion on this.

IE has been the bane of the Windows user communities for some time now. While based on early Mosaic code base, MS's coders with feet of lead continued to degrade the performance and the security of that code base. Eventually all the applied band-aids caused the framework to collapse into the quivering and useless mess that it is now, typical of long running MickySoft code bases. As a comparison, Apache, which as nearly been around as long as IE, is still tight and excellent performs, so no, it isn't always like that.



Or the other version scams that MickeySoft run on their customer base to fleece them. The entire reason for the new ribbon bar? Not enough Office sales, not enough revenue. A feature that's actually worse marketed as something better. What a scam.



There's that. More solid an OS you'll be hard pressed to find.

I don't know, Linux has a lot of problems too just like any of them. I personally prefer OS X and have since 2003. Also while Safari has its ups and downs, I love how it integrates so well between all my devices, so Safari is my preferred browser followed by Chrome.
 
The only good thing about IE is that it allows me to make firefox my first download in every new set up ;)

Im a long time FF user but Im getting pissed off with it because its getting increasingly bloated and a memory hog. Im thinking of switching to chrome.
 
Im a long time FF user but Im getting pissed off with it because its getting increasingly bloated and a memory hog. Im thinking of switching to chrome.

I switched to Chrome a year and a half or so ago. I was a loyal FF user and supporter for quite some time. I was not initially impressed when Chrome first came out, but it has grown into a very good browser.
 
Im a long time FF user but Im getting pissed off with it because its getting increasingly bloated and a memory hog. Im thinking of switching to chrome.

Could be all the add-ons. I tried chrome but it just doesn't seem to fit my browser habits. Too much trying to teach an old dog new tricks with me I guess since I can't figure out how to do basic stuff on it.
 
I don't know, Linux has a lot of problems too just like any of them. I personally prefer OS X and have since 2003. Also while Safari has its ups and downs, I love how it integrates so well between all my devices, so Safari is my preferred browser followed by Chrome.

While true that any OS has it's share of problems, the one thing that most any UNIX, that would include both Linux and OS X, have is their incredible up time performance. These is never a need to reboot the OS because the OS memory leak has exhausted virtual memory, for example, a common windows problem. It speaks to the seemingly greater care with which these UNIX related OSs have been crafted, created and are maintained. Something which seemingly appears to be lacking in the Windows lineage for quite some time now, say ever since Windows 2000.

Much of the same attitude to care and craft appear all over the Open Source landscape at nearly every level of the application stack. A good argument for continued support for those efforts.
 
That wasn't why though. It was for some illusion of security. We were developing a new web application that the general public would be using, not internal government employees. We had to support Chrome and FF as part of the project requirements, but were told we could not install them on our government-provided laptops. We eventually had to use our own PCs for development instead.

Which of course you should be able to understand. Sounds like the government didn't want you to be downloading and installing software on their laptops. Many businesses have the same requirements. That's why network admins stream installs and updates.
 
Which of course you should be able to understand. Sounds like the government didn't want you to be downloading and installing software on their laptops. Many businesses have the same requirements. That's why network admins stream installs and updates.

Yes but if you have to design an application to work on a particular browser having policies that don't allow you to actually test against that browser with no exception mechanism are kind of stupid.
 
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