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Peyton Manning is a horrible person

Soho gator said:
Interesting that Peyton isn't claiming defamation. In fact he's too chicken **** to say anything. That's what quilts cowards do.
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The upside is this will probably push him into retirement. No one wants to see Peyton clinging to his career at this point. So, good riddance.
 
Soho gator said:
Interesting that Peyton isn't claiming defamation. In fact he's too chicken **** to say anything. That's what quilts cowards do.
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That may be because he's guilty. I don't know, no one other than he and the woman know for sure. That's what a court and the state's prosecutor are for, the put the evidence in front of a jury to weigh that evidence and decide guilt or not.
 
Soho gator said:
Yes let's. A 74 page court document from Polk county, Florida
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Which you havent seen. Instead you are taking the word of a bitter angry hate filled race baiter that got caught lying about his own race, then got caught lying about his two 'charities'.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Maybe he did. I don't know. Take him to court and prove that he did it, if he did. Until then, then this is just an unfounded character assassination and nothing else - Tawana Brawley's accusations and the accusations made by that stripper against the Duke University Lacrosse Team come to mind.
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Not to mine. I'd suggest reading the OP's linked article in its entirety.

Destroying someone's career and reputation is an awful thing.
 
nota bene said:
Not to mine. I'd suggest reading the OP's linked article in its entirety.

Destroying someone's career and reputation is an awful thing.
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I did read it. What part(s) do you think I missed? Especially given my other posts in this thread.
 
Well, you've just said that all this is "unfounded character assassination." And a scanned court document is available at the link, and mention is made of a settlement in 2003.

The sworn testimony of Malcolm Saxon and the ghostwriter Underwood seem to me to be more than groundless.
 
Soho gator said:
It's not rumor there is an eyewitness confirmation.
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So what? Eyewitness means little to me unless the witness can be cross examined by those he/she is accusing otherwise anything anyone says can be taken as 'eyewitness'.

I am not debating this as it does not mean that much to me.

I am not saying he did not do it. I am only saying that until it is proven in court OR he admits it then he is innocent until proven guilty.
 
Soho gator said:
We know he is a doper (getting his HGH delivered to his wife at their home was the height of his hubris) but now we know he sexually assaults women.

Troubling to say the least.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395?cid=bitly
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A Shaun King "scoop"? The guy is an activist hack who makes his living writing sensationalist claims of race bias. His credibility is zilch ESPECIALLY after he started a "fundraiser" page for Tamir Rice and then never gave the family the money.

Shaun King is a dirtball scavenger who trolls the internet looking for people he can victimize with his outlandish, hate filled, race baiting rhetoric.
 
If this was Brady it would of been all over the tabloids years ago.
 
Lutherf said:
A Shaun King "scoop"? The guy is an activist hack who makes his living writing sensationalist claims of race bias. His credibility is zilch ESPECIALLY after he started a "fundraiser" page for Tamir Rice and then never gave the family the money.

Shaun King is a dirtball scavenger who trolls the internet looking for people he can victimize with his outlandish, hate filled, race baiting rhetoric.
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I'll just be informed by the court document, the victims statement, those of Peyton's teammates, other athletes at UT and an eyewitness account that letters to Peyton.
 
calamity said:
OK, I read the whole article. Good luck proving that he slid down and stuck his junk on her head. I believe it's possible, but I also see it as being impossible to prove.
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Damn, Calamity. It's a Daily News opinion piece.

What more proof do you need?
 
jimbo said:
Damn, Calamity. It's a Daily News opinion piece.

What more proof do you need?
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It will never be proven in a court of law as there was a settlement but in the court of public opinion he's toast. He should be asked about this wherever he goes. I notice Art Fliescher is silent on this so far.
 
Lutherf said:
A Shaun King "scoop"? The guy is an activist hack who makes his living writing sensationalist claims of race bias. His credibility is zilch ESPECIALLY after he started a "fundraiser" page for Tamir Rice and then never gave the family the money.

Shaun King is a dirtball scavenger who trolls the internet looking for people he can victimize with his outlandish, hate filled, race baiting rhetoric.
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Well...that and START with the basic fact that he is a known liar and scumbag. When you cant even be honest about your own family and genetics? WHen you are willing to lie about even the most basic foundation of who and what you are?

Yeah...the only people rushing to give that douchebag any credibility are people that want the stories to be true already.
 
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second time in 10 minutes i've found a thread worthy of this^
 
DA60 said:
Innocent until proven guilty.

And doping does not make him a horrible person. At worst, it makes him a cheater. Big deal in the grand scheme of things.

The other thing is obviously potentially much worse. But again...innocent until proven guilty.
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Or settled. ha ha
 
Yeah, IMO saying he's a 'horrible person' is going too far. HGH? In football? That's as normal as the sun rising. A college athlete acting like a complete moron and privileged immature frat brat? Again, normal.

The smear campaign? If true, that bothers me. Lance Armstrong doping didn't bother me, in that freakin sport I would think they all dope. But his intimidation and smear campaign to the people around him can not be forgiven. Same with Manning, if true.

And the author of this particular piece is nothing but a hack.
 
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I don't know anything about Shaun King, but I don't see the point in "killing the messenger."

From Sports Illustrated:

The second and third questions—why is a 1996 incident the subject of a high-profile 2016 news article and why should we care about how a nearly 40-year-old Peyton Manning behaved in college—prove more complicated. As mentioned above, the 1996 incident has been explored in other news articles, though not nearly with the level of chilling detail and insightful analysis provided by King. In my view, the timing of King’s article is noteworthy because of allegations made against Manning in a December 2015 Al Jazeera America report and how Manning, the media and NFL have responded to them.

Breaking down sexual assault allegations against Peyton Manning | SI.com
 
nota bene said:
I don't know anything about Shaun King, but I don't see the point in "killing the messenger."

From Sports Illustrated:

The second and third questions—why is a 1996 incident the subject of a high-profile 2016 news article and why should we care about how a nearly 40-year-old Peyton Manning behaved in college—prove more complicated. As mentioned above, the 1996 incident has been explored in other news articles, though not nearly with the level of chilling detail and insightful analysis provided by King. In my view, the timing of King’s article is noteworthy because of allegations made against Manning in a December 2015 Al Jazeera America report and how Manning, the media and NFL have responded to them.

Breaking down sexual assault allegations against Peyton Manning | SI.com
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My understanding is there is an active lawsuit against UT accusing the school of fostering a hostile work environment by allowing its athletes to sexually harass and abuse female staff and students. Manning's is one of the cases mentioned in that suit. It's relevant and newsworthy due to that fact alone.

Furthermore, exposing the Mannings', Archie and Peyton, aggressive acts of character assassination against the complainant a various witnesses is also a good topic worthy of further investigation and discussion. IMO, they are pretty scummy. Just the idea that they would put in their book false allegations defaming the original victim, Ms Naughton, shows us that...it also shows us how stupid they are. Best would have been to leave that chapter out.
 
If they had, there wouldn't have been a defamation suit.

There does appear to be evidence of a smear campaign against Dr. Naughright, and I feel very sorry for her having to be dragged through the mud yet again. It was her career that was destroyed.

BTW, Archie Manning was the player who finally interested me in college football. As a kid, I clipped out from the newspapers every article I could find. I'm sorry to be learning all of this.
 
nota bene said:
If they had, there wouldn't have been a defamation suit.

There does appear to be evidence of a smear campaign against Dr. Naughright, and I feel very sorry for her having to be dragged through the mud yet again. It was her career that was destroyed.

BTW, Archie Manning was the player who finally interested me in college football. As a kid, I clipped out from the newspapers every article I could find. I'm sorry to be learning all of this.
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I wish we could just write it off to a father protecting his misbehaving son. But...the stuff in the book smells like something a wee bit different, even a step beyond simply being vindictive, something pathological perhaps.
 
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