• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

The Clevelanmd Indians Logo is Racist

rhinefire

DP Veteran
Joined
May 3, 2007
Messages
10,409
Reaction score
3,023
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Independent
Before you even attempt to argue purchase a thousand baseball caps with a logo looking like Al Jolson in blackface and see how many you sell!!!!! Call it a "Sambo" hat. Go ahead, try.
 
Before you even attempt to argue purchase a thousand baseball caps with a logo looking like Al Jolson in blackface and see how many you sell!!!!! Call it a "Sambo" hat. Go ahead, try.
I'd buy that.
Maybe Sambo's would adopt him as a mascot then.


Btw, their logo isn't racist one bit.
 
No it's not racist. Why is everything these days considered offensive to some people??? What a stupid ass world we live in.
 
Last edited:
The fact that people consistently use the term "racist" to describe stupid things that aren't racist at all just goes to show that the term racism and racist mean nothing anymore. They're just words that have been devalued of all true meaning and this results by over-use of people who want to get some benefit out of milking this term for personal gain... and also it's indicative that real racism doesn't exist anymore in the USA. It's dead. So in order to keep the myth alive, minuscule, pathetic things are labelled as racist.
 
You can argue that their logo is inaccurate. Their logo should be an actual Indian, like from India, and not a Native American, who obviously aren't Inians, but racist it is not. Maybe re-name the team the "Cleveland Customer Service Call Takers" and change their logo to a guy with a phone to his ear and playing Cricket?
 
Last edited:
Truthfully, I just started this thread for lack of something to do!! "Characters" can be construed as inflammatory but look at kids products including and especially food products with all the silly characters telling parents "This #@$% is good for your kids"! When you think of the cereal "Lucky Charms" do you instantly think of health food or a version of LSD? Another example of characters is drug products. Prilosec has Larry The Cable Guy giving medical advice! Would you let your child sleep over at a house where Ronald McDonald was the sitter?!
 
No it's not racist. Why is everything these days considered offensive to some people??? What a stupid ass world we live in.
OMG! :shock: This is a blatant display of common sense?!

Are you quite certain that you're a liberal, TMan?! :blink:
 
OMG! :shock: This is a blatant display of common sense?!

Are you quite certain that you're a liberal, TMan?! :blink:

I absolutely am a liberal. I'm just not a libtard, which is what 99% of modern day liberals are.

In fact, I might even be considered an extreme liberal by some. I believe that abortions or giving up baby for adoption should be MANDATORY in certain circumstances, like when the mother and/or father can't afford the kid.
 
Last edited:
caricature2.jpg
Next up for the Cleveland Jews...
 
Last edited:
The fact that people consistently use the term "racist" to describe stupid things that aren't racist at all just goes to show that the term racism and racist mean nothing anymore. They're just words that have been devalued of all true meaning and this results by over-use of people who want to get some benefit out of milking this term for personal gain... and also it's indicative that real racism doesn't exist anymore in the USA. It's dead. So in order to keep the myth alive, minuscule, pathetic things are labelled as racist.

1. Racists and other bigots tend to lack awareness of their prejudices and think that they are based in reality.

2. Many outsiders are incapable of understanding why a statement, symbol or action is offensive to a certain group. That may be understandable, but out of common courtesy and respect we should be considerate of the group's complaints and accommodate them unless they are completely outrageous or impractical (which is rarely the case).
 
No it's not racist. Why is everything these days considered offensive to some people??? What a stupid ass world we live in.

Ain't your call. If the old guy across the lane says he doesn't like the term, "wop", would you tell him that's ridiculous and call him a wop anyway?
 
FYI-The story about Sambo is about an Indian (from India). They don't have tigers in Africa.
 
Before you even attempt to argue purchase a thousand baseball caps with a logo looking like Al Jolson in blackface and see how many you sell!!!!! Call it a "Sambo" hat. Go ahead, try.

Give me a break. Geeeezzzzzz
 
67155521d1382575343-clevelanmd-indians-logo-racist-caricature2.jpg

Next up for the Cleveland Jews...
The above is you purposely displaying prejudiced.



A smiling Indian logo on the other hand, does not show prejudice or racism.
wahoo.gif




Ain't your call.
As it is personal opinion, it is his call.
And being overly sensitive to that which isn't an insult should look upon in contempt.
 
The above is you purposely displaying prejudiced.



A smiling Indian logo on the other hand, does not show prejudice or racism.
wahoo.gif




As it is personal opinion, it is his call.
And being overly sensitive to that which isn't an insult should look upon in contempt.

I had this discussion with some inlaws a couple weeks ago when the 'Redskins" name came up. Then, 3 out of 3 Natives agreed that the named Redskins and the Indians logo suck and shouldn't be allowed in this day and age.
Like I said, it ain't your call whether or not it's offensive unless you're Native.
 
I had this discussion with some inlaws a couple weeks ago when the 'Redskins" name came up. Then, 3 out of 3 Natives agreed that the named Redskins and the Indians logo suck and shouldn't be allowed in this day and age.
Like I said, it ain't your call whether or not it's offensive unless you're Native.
One; It ain't your call or theirs.

Two; Oversensitivity should not be tolerated.

Three; You better go look at the stats, as yours are not reflective of reality.
 
One; It ain't your call or theirs.

'They' being my Native inlaws? I'd say their opinion counts more than yours or mine.

Two; Oversensitivity should not be tolerated.

So what does that look like, not tolerating oversensitivity?

Three; You better go look at the stats, as yours are not reflective of reality.

Go look at what stats? I just told you, 3 out of 3 Natives in my livingroom were unanimous.
 
'They' being my Native inlaws? I'd say their opinion counts more than yours or mine.

Go look at what stats? I just told you, 3 out of 3 Natives in my livingroom were unanimous.
That was not clear by what you previously said.

Still, it is not their call.


So what does that look like, not tolerating oversensitivity?
In this case it looks like ignoring ridiculousness objections.
 
Ain't your call. If the old guy across the lane says he doesn't like the term, "wop", would you tell him that's ridiculous and call him a wop anyway?

No one is calling anyone anything. This is about a logo, the logo is not racist. Sorry.
 
I absolutely am a liberal. I'm just not a libtard, which is what 99% of modern day liberals are.

If only the rest could be so intelligent! Utopia at last!

In fact, I might even be considered an extreme liberal by some. I believe that abortions or giving up baby for adoption should be MANDATORY in certain circumstances, like when the mother and/or father can't afford the kid.

It seems you're confused between the term Liberal and Authoritarian. There's a reason why the position is called Pro-Choice, not Pro-Choice-unless your below the poverty level, then we'll take your kid.
 
Back
Top Bottom