WV Republican Party demands loyalty oath

Mycroft said:

To me, that quote from Adams and the wording of the treaty are saying two different things and are not contradictory at all.

In the quote he says, in effect, that our government is designed to be used by people who have morals and religious values...but it doesn't define what those morals or religious values might be and doesn't single out any particular religion as paramount.

The statement in the treaty simply declares that our Constitution is not based on the Christian religion and that the US has not...and will not...go to war with any country for religious reasons.

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Agree. Well put.

Removable Mind said:

Agree. Well put.

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I disagree with that assessment. I have heard this opinion before. Quite often it's used by bible-thumping zealots who are trying to justify their love of theocratic government.

The US is not now, nor has it ever been, a clerical state. The founding fathers DID NOT want a clerical state. I am sorry some people are having such a difficult time understanding this.

Mycroft said:

Typical liberal...

Ignoring points made that you don't want to discuss so you can demagogue about some person who defied a court order. It makes me wonder how you would respond to someone's claim about Obama being "a criminal" for his contempt of court rulings. You DO know about Obama being found in contempt of court, don't you? And he wasn't even being religious about it. He was, however, being liberal and that's what got him in trouble.

You, with your left-wing hackery, are beginning to bore me.

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You didn't make any points. You towed the republican line and regurgitating the information that was brainwashed into you.

Moreover, I am aware of the Obama Administration being held in contempt for trying to keep big oil from destroying anymore coastline than they already had.

I am sorry you side with big oil and the destruction of the environment.

TheIceman said:

You didn't make any points. You towed the republican line and regurgitating the information that was brainwashed into you.

Moreover, I am aware of the Obama Administration being held in contempt for trying to keep big oil from destroying anymore coastline than they already had.

I am sorry you side with big oil and the destruction of the environment.

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As usual...the liberal stance.

You have no response, so you talk about something else. In this case, you make assumptions about me, you place positions on me that I have not articulated and you try to excuse Obama for being in contempt of court.

Making up things about me is bad enough, but what's worse is excusing a violation of the law, as judged by a Court of Law...just because you think that violation is the right thing to do. It shows a distinct lack, on your part, for the rule of law.

And when added to your demand that the GOP be found in violation of an imaginary law...which you STILL decline to describe...it surrounds your attitude and posts with an incredible amount of irony.

TheIceman said:

I disagree with that assessment. I have heard this opinion before. Quite often it's used by bible-thumping zealots who are trying to justify their love of theocratic government.

The US is not now, nor has it ever been, a clerical state. The founding fathers DID NOT want a clerical state. I am sorry some people are having such a difficult time understanding this.

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The problem is, though, that nobody is trying to create a "clerical state". It wasn't happening in Adams' time...and it's not happening now.

TheIceman said:

I disagree with that assessment. I have heard this opinion before. Quite often it's used by bible-thumping zealots who are trying to justify their love of theocratic government.

The US is not now, nor has it ever been, a clerical state. The founding fathers DID NOT want a clerical state. I am sorry some people are having such a difficult time understanding this.

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You mean that you disagree with CROVAX'S comments in post #71?