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Have you seen spokesmen from CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) on some of the TV cable news shows ? If you watch these, undoubtedly you have seen some of these people. And they usually appear to be a bunch of nice, well-dressed people with a high degree of integrity.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Click this link

Federal Judge Agrees: CAIR Tied to Hamas :: The Investigative Project on Terrorism

for information about a federal judge, officially, and publicly linking CAIR to the internationally recognized Islamic Supremacist terrorist group Hamas, which has long been responsible for the killings of Israeli civilians (and soldiers) in rocket attacks and suicide bombings.
 
Did you know that they're also tied to the US government, which has long been responsible for the killing of civilians across the globe, from Vietnam to Iraq. Unless you can prove that these funds they donated went to the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, then you don't really have a point.
 
Fox News can be linked to Islamic terrorist groups in a similar manner.
 
of course CAIR is linked to Hamas. every major islamist organization is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood; which is linked to Hamas. Global Jihad. not "Middle Eastern Jihad".
 
C.A.I.R. was connected with getting Juan Williams fired from NPR.
Imam Rauf (ground zero mosque) also is connections with C.A.I.R.
The left doesn't seem to have a problem with them.
 
C.A.I.R. was connected with getting Juan Williams fired from NPR.
Imam Rauf (ground zero mosque) also is connections with C.A.I.R.
The left doesn't seem to have a problem with them.

You are linked with Barack Obama(you are both Americans). Therefore you are clearly a socialist.
 
I'm not surprised. Its counterpart Muslim Council of Britain also has links to terror. So much so that even the rabidly PC Tony Blair severed ties with it.

But you can't keep good quasi-Marxists down and the MCB was soon allowed to 'advise' the Government again. No wonder there's this sad slide into dhimmitude.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...n-away-damning-government-research-paper.html



And how is this servitude repaid? By having even Labour people turned on and infiltrated by the vipers we've been forced to harbour:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/archi...ms-go-critical-and-attack-their-own-boss.html

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europ...supreme-protector-no-respect-some-people.html



Anyway, back to the fifth-columists at CAIR. Islamic supremacism is rife with these people. I'm sure they and 'Saddam' Hussein get along like a church on fire:



CAIR Spreads Propaganda for Radical Saudis on Islam

TheReligionofPeace - CAIR's Hate Speech



They Say / We Say: Islam To Become Dominant In America. Says CAIR.
 
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C.A.I.R. was connected with getting Juan Williams fired from NPR.
Imam Rauf (ground zero mosque) also is connections with C.A.I.R.
The left doesn't seem to have a problem with them.

Fox News is connected to Imam Rauf. Therefore, Fox News is connected with getting Juan Wiliams fired.
 
You are linked with Barack Obama(you are both Americans). Therefore you are clearly a socialist.

except that he's never (to our knowledge) actually worked with Barack Obama or recieved monies from the same.
 
Did you know that they're also tied to the US government, which has long been responsible for the killing of civilians across the globe, from Vietnam to Iraq. Unless you can prove that these funds they donated went to the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, then you don't really have a point.

based on this statement, would you agree then that unless the Democrats could prove that foreign money donated to the Chamber of Commerce went to fund US election campaign activities/ads, they too had no point?
 
Did you know that they're also tied to the US government, which has long been responsible for the killing of civilians across the globe, from Vietnam to Iraq. Unless you can prove that these funds they donated went to the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, then you don't really have a point.

Tied to the US government is a rather general reference which could means a spectrum of theings. You haven't specified, so I don't have a clear focus on what ties you refer to, or how. I do know that some of the things that were going on whereby CAIR was involved in the US government's affairs, they no longer are. Those involvements stopped after the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development trial in 2008, which sent 5 members of the HLF (which has been closely connected to CAIR) to very long prison sentences. Together with that, the biggest blow to CAIR's pretense as a supposed "moderate" organization, was when they were classified by the US Justice Dept. as "unindicted co-conspirator" in the case.
Also, federal prosecutors IDd CAIR as a present or past member of "the Muslim Brotherhood's Palestine Committee and/or its organizations.", and testified that CAIR was a participant in a criminal conspiracy on behalf of the terror group Hamas, which the trial proved had received funding from the Holy Land Foundation, which in turn, was supported by CAIR.
Want to hear more ? Sure you do. Let's let it all hang out (although even these important facts are just the tip of the iceberg with CAIR). CAIR not only got donations to the HLF, They also received a half million dollars from the criminally convicted group.
(Josh Gerstein, "Islamic Groups Named In Hamas Funding Case", New York Sun, June 4, 2007)

Here's an example of the typical taqiyya employed by Islamizer groups like CAIR, pretending to be oh so offended and outraged. When confronted with this fact by terrorism analyst Steven Emerson (of receiving the $.5 million from the HLF), CAIR co-founder Nihad Awad put on a show of anger/indignation that could have won him an Academy Award. He vehemently denied the allegation saying : "This is an outright lie. Our organization did not receive any seed money from HLFRD. CAIR raises its own funds and we challenge Mr. Emerson to provide even a shred of evidence to support his ridiculous claim".
Emerson duly produced the canceled check. ("HLF's Financial Support of CAIR Garners New Scrutiny, "The Investigative Project on Terrorism" October 12, 2007.)

I could cite dozens of other examples where CAIR has been involved in anti-American Islamizationist activities, such as the current suit in Oklahoma against the state of Oklahoma, for its anti-Sharia referendum, overwhelmingly supported by the Oklahoma people. Note that Sharia law is (among many other things) unconstitutional just by virtue of it's incompatablity with Article VI of the US Constitution (the Supremacy Clause) which states "...This Constitution and the Laws of the United States..shall be the supreme Law of the Land".
 
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That's a very obvious bait from Mr. Meister.

Indeed, nowhere in the US Constitution can it be found that the Government has a holy right to uphold wife beating or the ritual killing of non-Christians.
 
That's a very obvious bait from Mr. Meister.

Indeed, nowhere in the US Constitution can it be found that the Government has a holy right to uphold wife beating or the ritual killing of non-Christians.

Regarding wife beating, better leave your culture back in the Middle East, Muslims. Five translations of the Koran (Ali, Pickthall, Dawood, Shakir, & Arberry) all read "beat them". Muslims in America should forget their ideas of living by that idiocy here. The crime is punishable with jail time of a year or more in every state, and murder of anyone (ritual or not) gets you life in prison or the death penalty.
 
That's a very obvious bait from Mr. Meister.

Indeed, nowhere in the US Constitution can it be found that the Government has a holy right to uphold wife beating or the ritual killing of non-Christians.

What does that have to do with anything? Nowhere in the US has such a ruling been made.

Regarding wife beating, better leave your culture back in the Middle East, Muslims. Five translations of the Koran (Ali, Pickthall, Dawood, Shakir, & Arberry) all read "beat them". Muslims in America should forget their ideas of living by that idiocy here. The crime is punishable with jail time of a year or more in every state, and murder of anyone (ritual or not) gets you life in prison or the death penalty.

The sad part is people like you think this is typical Muslim behavior or something.
 
Nowhere in the US has such a ruling been made.

Indeed. Which proves my point. One is not of another.


The sad part is people like you think this is typical Muslim behavior or something.

The sad part is people like you think that you know better than Muslims about what is and isn't part and parcel of their religion.

Mind you, such is normal in the Islamic world, where modern civilised values can't touch them.
 
What does that have to do with anything? Nowhere in the US has such a ruling been made.



The sad part is people like you think this is typical Muslim behavior or something.

Rulings allowing wife beating may not be done by US courts, but there are numerous Muslim enclaves where the activities inside are secret to outsiders. Why would that be ? Perhaps because the Muslims living in these compounds fear arrest and imprisonment if their actions became known ? These enclaves in the US are run by Muslims of the Americas, a thinly disguised front for Jamaat al-Fuqra, which runs many of these rural enclaves in Canada, and has a history of terrorist activity in both countries.
As for "typical Muslim behavior", who knows what behavior goes on behind the gates of these sealed off enclaves, or even behind the closed doors of the house on your street where Muslims reside ? Who knows how much Western law prevails there, or how much Sharia law ?
 
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Rulings allowing wife beating may not be done by US courts, but there are numerous Muslim enclaves where the activities inside are secret to outsiders. Why would that be ? Perhaps because the Muslims living in these compounds fear arrest and imprisonment if their actions became known ? These enclaves in the US are run by Muslims of the Americas, a thinly disguised front for Jamaat al-Fuqra, which runs many of these rural enclaves in Canada, and has a history of terrorist activity in both countries.
As for "typical Muslim behavior", who knows what behavior goes on behind the gates of these sealed off enclaves, or even behind the closed doors of the house on your street where Muslims reside ? Who knows how much Western law prevails there, or how much Sharia law ?

So you're saying that lack of proof proves that it's happening, you have great logic. :roll:
 
So you're saying that lack of proof proves that it's happening, you have great logic. :roll:

I didn't say anything was proved, you said that. My comment contained 4 question marks as well as the word "Perhaps" and the words "who knows ?" mentioned twice. You assume too much, and you try to put words in someone's mouth too much. Be truthful. Your comments will be respected more that way.
Now if you want some information about the enclaves, I have plenty to present. Want to hear it ?
 
1 + 1 = 2, therefore all Muslims are terrorists. :P
 
For you, Badfish, the good news is I'm stumped.

But the bad news is because it was through gobbledygook rather than any actual coherent argument.

Still, an inverted victory anyway.


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* Aspostasy;

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17

Translation: a slavisly obedient Muslim, who kills and enjoys paedo sex the right way, can only be harmed if he dares leave the Religion of Peace.



For the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260


No wonder Islam needs to be FORCED on nations!
 
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I didn't say anything was proved, you said that. My comment contained 4 question marks as well as the word "Perhaps" and the words "who knows ?" mentioned twice. You assume too much, and you try to put words in someone's mouth too much. Be truthful. Your comments will be respected more that way.
Now if you want some information about the enclaves, I have plenty to present. Want to hear it ?

What goes on inside "enclaves" of Christians or Jews? How do you have this so-called information about these secret enclaves that let nobody in?

*gasp* you must be one of them.
 
Sarcasm and diversion.

I'm sure Protectionist is now crying into his shirt!
 
We must liberate all the Muslim women. This is because the only thing stronger than religion is testosterone.
 
What goes on inside "enclaves" of Christians or Jews? How do you have this so-called information about these secret enclaves that let nobody in?

*gasp* you must be one of them.

What enclaves of Christians or Jews ? Do you know of some ? If so, where ? As for Muslim enclaves in the United States terror researcher Paul L. Williams visited one called Isalmberg, near Hancock, New York. It's a remote 70 acre compound in the Catskill Mountain foothills. When Williams asked to go in, a guard stopped him and told him "Our community is not open to visitors" (They better not tell law enforcement authorities that).

An intelligence company, Stratfor, reports that the camp is linked to Jamatt al-Fuqra, a militant Pakistani-based Islamic organization with camps in the US and Canada, with a history of violence. In addition to their Canadian operations, JAF has 13 more in the United States.
Another group establishing enclaves in the US is the Islamic Center for Human Excellence in little Rock, Arkansas. Still another is the Gwynoaks Muslim Residential Development, in Baltimore, MD, and another source of info is an attorney David Houck.
So how do I have this information ? Well you remember the old saying from decades ago ? > Burn, Baby Burn ? Well, Read, Baby, Read !

(David Kennedy Houck, "The Islamist Challenge to the US Constitution", Middle East Quarterly, Spring 2006, 21-28.)

("United States: The Jamaat al-Fuqra Threat", Stratfor, June 3,2005.)

(Asian organized crime and terrorist Activity in Canada, 1999-2002 : A Report Prepared Under an Interagency Agreement", Federal Research Division, US Library of Congress, July 2003, pp. 2-5)
htp://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/pdf-files/AsianOrgCrime_Canada.pdf
 
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When Williams asked to go in, a guard stopped him and told him "Our community is not open to visitors" (They better not tell law enforcement authorities that).

Private property rights apply to all citizens whether Williams likes it or not. In the case of government thugs, they need to get a warrent in order to enter private property if the property owner refuses.
 
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