Bush is a war criminal... (1 Viewer)

new coup for you said:

except you write like a 12 year old

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:applaud :applaud :roll:

Binary_Digit said:

That may be true, but if so then what should the U.S. do about it? Push to amend the rules so they specify who the enforcer will be, or simply ignore the rules and do our own thing?

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The U.S. could do something radical by electing an official with integrity, rather than these mentally-challenged gun-slingin' yahoo's (ie - bush and friends). But as long as we are subjigated by a homogenized corporate mainstream media, the idea is not going to work. To start, we need to get out of our homes and protest the war. We also need to get Bush ousted from the Whitehouse. Once this is accomplished, we can focus on repealing the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The list goes on and on. But like I said, It's going to entail a collective step outside of the status-quo to flex our democratic rights. This hasn't happend since the 60's. I'm ready, are you?

Gun-slinging yahoos eh? You make that sound like its a bad thing. :lol:

Just an assumption but I'm assuming you live the miserable life of a drama queen, because your posts are always filled with so much negativity and misery.

I find it very enjoyable to sling guns around!

Okay, sorry, but what does the War or the Bush administration have to do with the Telecommunications act of 1996 where Clinton was president?

Directness is usually much better at accomplishing something.
Speaking of repealing stuff, I'd really like to remove the GCA of 1968, the importation act of 1986 and 1989, and the GCA of 1934 should be removed or at least completely revised.

Well in that case, the Patriot Act should be propelled up GWB's a$$ using rocket fuel.

Binary_Digit said:

Well in that case, the Patriot Act should be propelled up GWB's a$$ using rocket fuel.

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Got that right!

PhotonicLaceration said:

Just an assumption but I'm assuming you live the miserable life of a drama queen, because your posts are always filled with so much negativity and misery.

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Example? Or do you just get off on slinging accusations like you do with bullets? :lol:

Originally posted by GySgt:
The threat is an entire region and the terrorism their lifestyle breeds.

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You'll have to pardon my reference to the Factor, but that is, the most ridiculous comment of the day!

Binary_Digit said:

Based on this, I have to assume you gave up on Santa about three months ago.

Aside from your choice of debate, I think your point is a little off too. But not entirely. Right now the world community is like a global anarchy of nations. It's true that international law doesn't carry a whole lot of weight, because so many nations still break them on a daily basis. But to me, that's all the more reason why the U.S. should not break international law. It's stupid to propogate the global anarchy philosophy, because people and anarchys can't peacefully coexist. We NEED some sort of global order. We NEED a set of international laws that provide guidance for the civilized nations, to promote peace wherever possible, and wage war whenever necessary. And we NEED every nation to follow them, including and especially the U.S. and other global superpowers. How can we expect other nations to respect the laws of peace and stability if we ourselves are allowed to make certain exceptions?

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there has never been functioning international law. never.

what's kept global powers from starting wars isnt the defunct and corrupt UN it's the atom bomb. the atom bomb has actually saved uncountable lives if you think about it- it's stopped real powers from starting real wars.

the march of technology will keep the ambition of nations in check.

Binary_Digit said:

Well in that case, the Patriot Act should be propelled up GWB's a$$ using rocket fuel.

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Thank you President Bush and Secretary Ashcroft for the Patriot Act................On 9/12/01 I would have thought we would be having a terrorist attack on this country every other week........Well we have not any and a lot of credit has to do with the PA.

A wonderful piece of legislation that for the first time in a long time allows our various intelligence agencies to communicate with one another.......

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/printer_7252.shtml

From Capitol Hill Blue: The Terrorist of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

By DOUG THOMPSON, Aug 22, 2005, 06:13

My first reaction to George W. Bush’s all-too-obvious politicizing of the memories of September 11, 2001, in his latest lame attempt to justify his illegal and immoral war in Iraq, was anger.

Then anger gave way to sadness.

Sadness over a morality-challenged politician’s use of the deaths of 3,000 plus Americans for his own political gain.

And even more sadness because there are still people out there stupid enough to fall for this kind of crap.

Bush has pulled this stunt before. He keeps 9/11 in his bag of tricks as a last-ditch effort to save his corrupt political hide when things go bad. And, according to polls, things are bad. An increasing majority of Americans no longer buy his lies about Iraq and oppose the war along with growing numbers who finally realize the President of the United States is a liar who cannot be trusted.

Reality, however, will not stop the dwindling numbers of Bushites from defending their failed leader to the end – and it is that maniacal devotion to Bush that may signal the end to America as we know it.

Sometimes it is difficult to decide who to fear the most – the ethically-bankrupt President whose madness drives what was once the greatest country on earth closer and closer to ruin or the blind, brain-dead lemmings who continue to follow him into the abyss.

In more normal times we might be able to dismiss Bush’s followers as just another gaggle of misguided political miscreants who bet on the wrong horse and now try to justify that mistake.

But these are not normal times and the wild-eyed fanatics who continue to buy this charlatan’s snake oil are, in too many ways, as dangerous as Bush himself.

Bush and his klavern of crooks, con-men and thieves have turned this nation into a monster that threatens world peace, an arrogant bomb-throwing bully who poses a far-greater danger than any Islam-spouting lunatic with a turban.

When you get past the hyperbole and sound bite rants of the rabid right, you are left with one sad fact – the United States of America, a nation that once prided itself in never, ever, being the aggressor in a conflict, invaded another nation on false pretenses, a nation that posed no immediate threat to us or our way of life.

It is no longer Osama bin Laden and his fanatical followers who pose the greatest threat to the future of this country. It is George W. Bush and his equally-fanatical, zoned-out legions who buy into his destructive, anti-American actions.

Osama’s still at large and still planning ways to attack this country but he remains at large because Bush ordered the military to all-but-abandon the search for the Al Qaeda leader and divert resources to an ill-conceived, ill-planned and ill-executed illegal invasion of Iraq.

Now the Army admits it is planning for “at least” four more years in Iraq as the death toll of young American men and women races headlong towards 2,000.

So a desperate George W. Bush goes to the well once more, invoking the memories of September 11, 2001 to try and save his political skin.

We can hope, of course, that this blatant political opportunism won’t work. We can hope that Americans will finally see through the sham that is Bush and the fanatics who follow him.

We can hope that Americans recognize that more than one terrorist seeks to destroy America and that the most dangerous terrorist of all lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Don't forget: http://www.votetoimpeach.org/

i understand that sacrifices have to be made for safety but the patriot acts is a little too draconian

just the language conjurs up images of eisienhower america, frothing patriotic fanatcism, xenophobia, etc

i mean really PATRIOT act? that sounds so propoganda-conspiracyish

new coup for you said:

i understand that sacrifices have to be made for safety but the patriot acts is a little too draconian

just the language conjurs up images of eisienhower america, frothing patriotic fanatcism, xenophobia, etc

i mean really PATRIOT act? that sounds so propoganda-conspiracyish

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Just like something from Geroge Orwell's 1984 !! No doubt...

new coup for you said:

i understand that sacrifices have to be made for safety but the patriot acts is a little too draconian

just the language conjurs up images of eisienhower america, frothing patriotic fanatcism, xenophobia, etc

i mean really PATRIOT act? that sounds so propoganda-conspiracyish

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Its just a name..........

Bush at 36% approval... Nixon was at 39% during the height of watergate :lol:

23 - 17 ... looks like Bush is floundering here as well. 57.50% of the better informed Americans agree!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

I'm sorry Navy Pride, but the USA PATRIOT Act did not do much to enable sharing of information, the "Wall" that Janet Reno imposed on the CIA and FBI was twisted and distorted by Republican opposition and continually misapplied, the PATRIOT act just clarified these rules, it didn't change them, but what most people object to was the ability of the FBI to watch anyone for any reason, and of course to lock people up indefinitely without informing anyone for little or no reason. And if you think it's just a name, you obviously weren't paying attention to what happened to critics of the Act and you've never read 1984.

Another point I'd like to make is that Clinton thwarted lot's of attacks on the homeland whereas the Bush Administration have no single specific example of a terrorist plot that they have stopped using provisions that didn't exist until the PATRIOT Act, just scared a few U.S. civilians, standard FBI Investigation and Foriegn Intelligence stop terrorist attacks, not locking people up illegally.

1. Only in America......can a pizza get to your house faster than an ambulance.
2. Only in America......are there handicap parking places in front of a skating rink.
3. Only in America......do drugstores make the sick walk all the way to the back of the store to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front.
4. Only in America......do people order double cheese burgers, large fries, and a diet Coke.
5. Only in America......do banks leave both doors to the vault open and then chain the pens to the counters.
6. Only in America......do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in the driveway and put our useless junk in the garage.
7. Only in America......do we use answering machines to screen calls and then have call waiting so we won't miss a call from someone we didn't want to talk to in the first place.
8. Only in America......do we buy hot dogs in packages of ten and buns in packages of eight.
9. Only in America......do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.
10. Only in America......do they have drive-up ATM machines with Braille lettering.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/jokes/bljokeonlyinamerica.htm

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Now back to the Bush Impeachment Beach Party, starring Frankie Enron and Annette Archipelago.

Footnote: According to the World Tribunal on Iraq, Bush IS a war criminal. The only thing that is stopping him from facing charges in a court of law, is American arrogance.

This must be a good thread, the poll doesn't lie.

And yes... Bill O'Reilly is a butthead. Your batting 12 for 12 O Really. Bush could face a war crimes tribunal over Israel as well, although once again, so can every President for the past 30 years if only the U.S. recognised the jurisdiction of the court which they rejected after they were condemned for international terror in Nicaragua.

Israel and teh U.S. are the only nations that consistently voted against U.N. resolutions condemning international terror. Oh and support for Turkish atrocities against the Kurds in the 90's, after Saddams, yet Turkey are an ally in the War on Terror, as are Algeria, Russia and China, since they now have some kind of international consensus justifying their own "counter"-terrorist atrocities.

Originally posted by freethought6t9:
And yes... Bill O'Reilly is a butthead. Your batting 12 for 12 O Really. Bush could face a war crimes tribunal over Israel as well, although once again, so can every President for the past 30 years if only the U.S. recognised the jurisdiction of the court which they rejected after they were condemned for international terror in Nicaragua.

Israel and teh U.S. are the only nations that consistently voted against U.N. resolutions condemning international terror. Oh and support for Turkish atrocities against the Kurds in the 90's, after Saddams, yet Turkey are an ally in the War on Terror, as are Algeria, Russia and China, since they now have some kind of international consensus justifying their own "counter"-terrorist atrocities.

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Sadly, I must agree.

ban.the.electoral.college said:

Bush at 36% approval... Nixon was at 39% during the height of watergate :lol:

23 - 17 ... looks like Bush is floundering here as well. 57.50% of the better informed Americans agree!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

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I personally don't pay a lot of attention to polls.......It depends a lot as to who you poll...........For example if the president was polled in a liberal city like Seattle his approval rating would be at about 30% but if he was polled at Fort Lewis Army Post it would be at about 90% besides I remember lat year when his approval rating was at about 48% before the elections and all the liberals were saying no president has ever been reelected with a approval rating below 50% and the president won by 3,000,000 votes.........

So much for phony polls.........

Navy Pride said:

So much for phony polls.........

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And phony elections... And illegitamte presidents...

http://www.sonofbush.com/
http://www.citizensforimpeachingbush.com/illegitimate.htm


... And dont forget to http://www.votetoimpeach.org/

ban.the.electoral.college said:

And phony elections... And illegitamte presidents...

http://www.sonofbush.com/
http://www.citizensforimpeachingbush.com/illegitimate.htm


... And dont forget to http://www.votetoimpeach.org/

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Your living in the past and a dream world...........You lost in 2000, 2002, and 2004 and you will continue to lose as long as there are people like you around..........You need to move on my friend..........Get over it....Take a pill........Because you post a bunch of left wing sites does not mean anything is going to change........

Navy Pride said:

Its just a name..........

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there is alot in a name

i would scale back the Patriot Act about 25% and give it a less terrifying name

i think the government has primarily failed to increase cohesion among our intelligence and defense bureacracies

to be honest i'm not that worried about the government spying on me because:

1)other then smoking pot once and a while and getting plastered illigally (i'm 19) a couple times a week i dont do anything illigal
2)They're too incompetent to catch me

Navy Pride said:

Your living in the past and a dream world...........You lost in 2000, 2002, and 2004 and you will continue to lose as long as there are people like you around..........You need to move on my friend..........Get over it....Take a pill........Because you post a bunch of left wing sites does not mean anything is going to change........

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i'm NOT a supporter of Bush but impeaching him would be hardcore retarded. he's a LAME DUCK. why go through the agony?