September 11th conspiracy theories

911 WAS an inside job.

I'll make sure to spell my words correctly and use commas, where needed. People love to be anal and shoot the messenger after all. There is no doubt in my mind 911 was an inside job, there is too much evidence. I did not come to think this was the case easily, I had to be dragged kicking and screaming. So anyways, Keep an open mind and check out the info for yourself.

http://martiallaw911.info/video.htm

http://www.infowars.com/resources.html Much of the info presented here implicates Clinton in just as much treason as Bush, so I don't want to hear the political football crap. I'm neither a republican or a democrat, just a truthseeker.

http://physics911.ca/

http://rainbowguide.info/LinkMaint/LMlinks.php?vw=&id=154&PHPSESSID=b5d0e23e7f90428882246cd40cce379f

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Nap this is one of the best site I have seen !
http://martiallaw911.info/video.htm

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Hi Nap :2wave:

Thanks for posting. All people have to do is take the time to do the research and they will see that this is not crazy ... it's the sad truth. We can't give up though, we have to fight this tyranny and expose the corruption and lies. Knowledge is power.

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I think so... it seems the most reasonable explanation :roll:

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We've already had this arguement, you should really check out the thread which Biblemark created, I've done my research, extensive it was. Everything I've seen is just questions or terrible evidence. I don't think it was an inside job.

Where are the passengers of the 9/11 planes if the Boeings were switched?

I totally agree, the happenings surronding 9/11-WTC attacks are very skeptical, I'm still not sure about the truth there.

The Pentagon WAS hit by a Boeing 757, read this: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_plane_evidence.html

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I've seen that article. Whether or not a plane hit the pentagon makes no difference. The first two links I have posted do not deal with that at all, instead they deal with mainstream press articles, government documents, whistle blowers, and the aftermath. Have you watched the clips of Martial Law? Or looked or the Government involvement in terrorist attacks links?

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I think there may be a secret prison camp that Her Bush has set up just for people like you. 1984 is here.....ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....

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Keep laughing as they rip our constitution to shreds and kill liberty as you know it. It's all just silly untill a billy club bashes you in the head.

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So what do you think we should do about this situation sir?

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Expose it, write your congress and state representatives, post in forums, make webpages and blogs, talk to friends and family or anyone who will listen. The man who made that movie I posted about allows people to make copys of any of his documentarys and use them for educational porposes, or just to give away for free. This website http://reopen911.org/index.htm has a petition people can sign calling for a real independant investigation. They are also giving out free dvds to anyone who wants one that can be copied and distributed as well. There are lawsuits that can be supported by signing a petition on this site. http://www.911forthetruth.com/
There are action alert sign ups on these sites. http://septembereleventh.org/ http://www.911truth.org/ http://ny911truth.org/
Yet another petition can be found here. http://justicefor911.org/
That should get you started.

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I just have to shake my head and wonder where our public education failed. :doh You people have a serious emotional problem, or you hate America and the Government so much you see evidence where there is none. I do hope you never act out because you actually believe this nonsense. Our posters are far too intelligent to entertain this idea, so you are really wasting your time here. Please be advised that we have a rule about spam, and have put repetitive posting of links into that category. :roll:

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I ordered a DVD from them and I was happy that I could show my family, it hasn't come yet and that was 3 months ago. Good Going.

Reason why I didn't watch any of the movies: The 4th Reich And Arnold Schwarzenegger

I rest my case.

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Your DVD will come, mine did. It's not easy to give out hundreds of thousands of free DVDs. The info presented in the clip you mentioned is solid, your loss. All I can say as far as my last post goes.... is boy I wished I would have used that spell check button. I rest my case as well.

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Squawker said:

I just have to shake my head and wonder where our public education failed. :doh You people have a serious emotional problem, or you hate America and the Government so much you see evidence where there is none. I do hope you never act out because you actually believe this nonsense. Our posters are far too intelligent to entertain this idea, so you are really wasting your time here. Please be advised that we have a rule about spam, and have put repetitive posting of links into that category. :roll:

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I entertained it, even did a fair amount of fact checking. At every turn I came up completely empty. These link seem to use vague unverifiable "facts" mixed in with completely made up "facts." Then use the two to convince people of a massive conspiracy.

Even if they didn't insert fake sources and or facts they'd still be left with theories containing huge holes in the logic. Such as if the planes were switched where are the planes passengers? Are they all in on it? Their families too? Are they happily living out their days on some tropical island? Seems a little hard to swallow doesn't it?

And yes we have a spam rule, don't we? I have no problem with members posting whatever they consider to be valid debating points. But making multiple posts with the same links over and over should not be allowed.

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Act out? I am non-violent, This IS me acting out on this! Insult my intelligence and ignore all of this EVIDENCE.....whatever. Now I really rest my case, goodbye

"Fear not the path of truth,
for the lack of people walking on it."
http://Robert FKennedy.net

http://emperors-clothes.com/images/north-i.htm
http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm
http://www.wanttoknow.info/050504davidraygriffin
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-04-19-GriffinCapitalTimes.php
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/27/203251.shtml
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/05/28/1022243318700.html?oneclick=true
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/archiveprior_knowledge.html
http://thepowerhour.com/911_analysis/bush-knew2.htm
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jan2002/sept-j16.shtml
http://www.infowars.com/saved pages/Prior_Knowledge/Bush_Took_CIA_off.htm?art_id=1030259305
http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/#3
http://www.voxfux.com/archives/00000076.htm
http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2004/130904hiltontranscript.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/021104vonbuelow.html
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2005/170505nwodarthvader.htm
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2004-09-10-atlanta.php
http://rense.com/general63/wingnuts.htm
http://www.rense.com/general51/fatal.htm
http://www.davidcogswell.com/Political/Deconstructing911Coverup.html
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20040830120349841
http://911truthmovement.org/

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naptowntruthseeker said:

Your DVD will come, mine did. It's not easy to give out hundreds of thousands of free DVDs. The info presented in the clip you mentioned is solid, your loss. All I can say as far as my last post goes.... is boy I wished I would have used that spell check button. I rest my case as well.

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I'm not sure what you're meaning by the spell check button thing, are you trying to sarcastically make fun of MY last power or are you being serious?

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Being serious, I'm a nice guy I swear!

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......Gut?

Do you like to digest food particles? And why do you suddenly hurt all of a sudden?

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Yet another typo, busting a gut though, I promise.

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naptowntruthseeker said:

Act out? I am non-violent, This IS me acting out on this! Insult my intelligence and ignore all of this EVIDENCE.....whatever. Now I really rest my case, goodbye

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Act out? Did I miss something? Whatever are you talking about?

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Squawker said:

I do hope you never act out because you actually believe this nonsense. :roll:

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No I wasn't talking about you.

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We all saw a large fuel laden plane fly into a tower. It is not hard to imagine the rest. Class class shut up thank you. The Towers moved their structural steel normally placed from the core to the face all to the face to provide large column free spaces. To do this the floors were formed of long metal trusses from the core to the face. Long SPAN. Brainwashed monsters flew a plane into a tower. The mass destroyed many face columns before ripping a floors high, wingspan wide, path of sprinkler head shredding, fire wall penetrating, fire retardant removing, giant flue through our nations pride. Parts went clean through to set other buildings on fire. It is truly horrible to think the dispersion of the full tank's jet fuel through this swath. But first Mass x Speed = Force and the force of impact is spread with a bulge opposite of impact and the shock wave going up and down. Kinetic energy is absorbed by the swaying of the building. A building designed to withstand the impact of a plane stands. Fire. At the very least a large plane shaped area of sprinkler heads have been shredded. Instead of spraying water everywhere, just in one spot then straight down. Not a lot of coverage for the jet fuel infernal that starts. Have you ever stood on a ladder and had to remove a small piece of sprayed on fire retardant on structural steel to give good purchase for a mechanical fastener? I have. I used a small flat head screwdriver. I think as all the debris of the plane was shredded by the structural steel it also stripped the sprayed on fire retardant while being shredded. Have you ever stopped to notice the plasma over a puddle your welding? Do you take time to make yourself notice that tiny inferno while cutting a straight line through 1" steel with an oxygen/acetylene torch? Do you have any concept of the riddle of steel? Many have heated metal to make it easier to shape. These long spans between core and face are being heated over their about 1000 degrees Fahrenheit temperature where it loses rigidity. Heated spans sag like a BBQ grill. Sagging trusses increase pressure on truss to face anchor bolts above shear strength and fail. Young man give me that knife. Thank You. Domino. Floor falls on floor unable to bear weight of above falling floors weight and its own with its own sagging. Pancake. Can you imagine the mix of fault, tamper, alarm and normal signals the lower floors received and what the ensuing outputs did? Did any elevator go to where it should? Did a pathway of dampers fail and force toxic smoke to a area unaffected? No I will not view more than the first 2 minutes of that 911 garbage by he who remains unnamed. Facts? You saw the tape. See how hard it is to bend a fork then heat in middle and try. Homer say "Doh". Plane's mass exposes too great a surface area of structural steel to plane's fuel fed flames causing sag of trusses due to high temperature weakened steel leading to truss to face anchor bolt shear strength excision. What's my point? That 911 tape author is either trying to make money or actually going out of his way to lie to change one's perception of the truth. If the later then that is a bad person. Who would do such a thing? My Honorably Discharged self would like to give him the what for. They did it. Class dismissed.

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Squawker said:

Our posters are far too intelligent to entertain this idea,



Apparently not. Too many even entertained the premise I fear. I entertain because to lose even one to the enemy's propaganda is swell not, way. Free the women.

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Many years ago the first time I thought through this visualization, I had that same feeling as when I first saw film of a plane hitting a tower. That breath thing and thought or uttered "Oh my God". Imagine your some Joe in his chair just above impact. Do you hear or feel it first? Then you move perpendicular to the surface of the earth faster than you ever had, all these years in this Tower. Maybe for an instant it's surreal before reality hits. Myself? Run, down, fast, untill something else intrudes. But he died in his fear and terror. Just what they want. So we get away with it in Isreal why not try US? Think they. They hoped to fell a tower the first time with the Impeachee. Some Cruise missles and bombs. Acceptable response. Next try suceeds. Fade to that exquisit moment when Bugs says "You know, this means war".

They did it.
Free the woman.

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OK, Teacher. Why don't you explain WTC #7 for me. Remember 7? Most Americans don't even know about this 47-story building that collapsed into it's footprint on the afternoon of 9/11, even though NOTHING hit it! They showed it on National TV on 9/11, but there's been a complete news blackout ever since. They don't even mention it's collapse at all in the Official Commission Report! Hmmm. Why do they want us to forget about this? Why? Because it's the SMOKING GUN that proves our gov't's involvement.
Look at the videos in the links I've provided:


http://www.wtc7.net


Building 7 was the third skyscraper to collapse into rubble on September 11, 2001. According to the government, small fires leveled this building, but fires have never before or since destroyed a steel skyscraper.

The team who investigated the collapse were not allowed access to the crime scene. By the time they published their inconclusive report, the evidence had been destroyed.

Why did the government rapidly recycle the steel from the largest and most mysterious engineering failure in world history, and why has the media remained silent? (Some of the rubble from Ground Zero went to New Jersey, but all the sections that would explain the collapse were recycled as described above)

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Half-way through Building 7's 6.5-second plunge, streamers suggestive of demolition charges emerged from the facade.

Videos Show Building 7's Vertical Collapse.
The survival of several video recordings of Building 7's collapse, though of low resolution, allow study of the building's motion and the time of collapse.

Each of the following videos shows the entire visible portion of the building falling with a vertical precision otherwise seen only in controlled demolition. Moreover, they show that the collapse took only about 6.5 seconds from start to finish. That rate of fall is within a second of the time it would take an object to fall from the building's roof with no air resistance.
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Video Broadcast by CBS - 1.4mb - mpeg
This 36 second video shows Building 7 from an elevated vantage point to the distant northeast.

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Video from NBC news camera - 1.5mb
This 9 second video shows the Building 7 collapse from a vantage point about mile to the northeast on West Broadway.

(IMG:http://www.wtc7.net/docs/wtc7_collapse2_s.jpg)

video broadcast on CBS - 1.7MB - mpeg
This 9.6 second video shows the Building 7 collapse from a vantage point only about 1000 feet to the north.


World Trade Centre 7 was a Controlled Demolition! (which takes at least a full week to prepare. Are we supposed to believe Bin Laden did that?)