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SUPPORT THE TROOPS!! (bring them home) (1 Viewer)

Support the troops. Bring them home!!

  • 9/11 had nothing to do with Iraq. Bring the troops home!

    Votes: 41 43.2%

  • Leave the troops in Iraq. Iraq needs our help.

    Votes: 54 56.8%
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Caine said:
Not necessarily
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Oh yeah...how so? No matter where you live, you have to live under a self-serving and hypocritical government.
 
GySgt said:
Oh yeah...how so?
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If you chose NOT to take sides in a conflict. You MAY have peace, but the global community is still not at peace, and this could, in time, eventually start to affect you one way or the other.

And on the other hand, even crime could be a factor in keeping from peace.

Human nature keeps us from being peaceful creatures.
Jealousy, Envy, these are all a part of our nature and this will never end.
Thus, we will never be at peace until we no longer exhist.
 
Caine said:
If you chose NOT to take sides in a conflict. You MAY have peace, but the global community is still not at peace, and this could, in time, eventually start to affect you one way or the other.

And on the other hand, even crime could be a factor in keeping from peace.

Human nature keeps us from being peaceful creatures.
Jealousy, Envy, these are all a part of our nature and this will never end.
Thus, we will never be at peace until we no longer exhist.
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Alright dude. You're floating off into poetic left field now. I wish not to continue.
 
Caine said:
You completely missed the argument....
Someone stated that "Without War there is no Peace"
If peace were possible in the first place than this statement is true.
But, My argument is, Peace is not possible.
Humans as a species have been at war since we stopped being hunters and gatherers and started cities and civilizations.
And it will never stop until we are all gone. Its in a our nature.

Peace cannot occur until Racism/Religious Persecution/Greed/ and many more, have completely ended, this will never happen, so we as a people will always be at conflict with one another.

and again... if there is unrest anywhere there will be no peace.
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You know what? I actualy agree with that.
 
SKILMATIC said:
You know what? I actualy agree with that.
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I don't man. Take a freakin optimist pill. Your pharmacist can hook you up.
 
Theres no such thing as world peace. Cause there will alwyas be killing everywhere. We are humans and thats the way we are. Its a good thing there is the US to make sure people play fairly. :2wave:
 
SKILMATIC said:
Theres no such thing as world peace. Cause there will alwyas be killing everywhere. We are humans and thats the way we are. Its a good thing there is the US to make sure people play fairly. :2wave:
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Well not yet. I'd say, other than a few rough patches, that humans are generally moving in the right direction.
 
Kelzie said:
I don't man. Take a freakin optimist pill. Your pharmacist can hook you up.
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Well I am a optomist. I optimize that this campaign in Iraq will turn out better than neveryone expected and the bush admin can shuv it down all you mental disorders throats. I also optimize that politician will gorw their balls and blockade the borders from those godam mexicans. I also optimize that Bush would grom some balls and neutron bomb the whole ME and get it over with that way there wont be anymore radical islam. Hows that for being optomistic? Do I need to go on for you my sweetheart?
 
SKILMATIC said:
Well I am a optomist. I optimize that this campaign in Iraq will turn out better than neveryone expected and the bush admin can shuv it down all you mental disorders throats. I also optimize that politician will gorw their balls and blockade the borders from those godam mexicans. I also optimize that Bush would grom some balls and neutron bomb the whole ME and get it over with that way there wont be anymore radical islam. Hows that for being optomistic? Do I need to go on for you my sweetheart?
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And you accuse liberals of having a mental disorder. :roll:
 
SKILMATIC said:
Theres no such thing as world peace. Cause there will alwyas be killing everywhere. We are humans and thats the way we are.
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Yup. Sure, we always strive for peace. And there are some droughts or patches of peace, but war is in our nature. In an enlightened, utopian, world, peace would be protocol. Unfortunately, we don't live in such a world. We live in a barbaric, primitive, zoo-like world. I figure it's just a matter of time till we distinguissh all life on earth by means of nuclear war. When we discovered the means to travel to the moon, we discovered the potential to put an end to all life on earth.
 
kal-el said:
Yup. Sure, we always strive for peace. And there are some droughts or patches of peace, but war is in our nature. In an enlightened, utopian, world, peace would be protocol. Unfortunately, we don't live in such a world. We live in a barbaric, primitive, zoo-like world. I figure it's just a matter of time till we distinguissh all life on earth by means of nuclear war. When we discovered the means to travel to the moon, we discovered the potential to put an end to all life on earth.
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Yep you are absolutely correct. However I wouldnt say primitive casue we do have alot of interesting technology. However, we seem to use that technology primitively in the fact that we use it to try to kill each other. Nuclear technology would be the best answer to all of our energy and power needs. We would rather use it to destroy life on earth.

And you accuse liberals of having a mental disorder.
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And you dont? :doh
 
Kelzie said:
And you accuse liberals of having a mental disorder. :roll:
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Is that anyway to talk to someone who called your heart sweet? Some people are so ungrateful.
 
SKILMATIC said:
Yep you are absolutely correct. However I wouldnt say primitive casue we do have alot of interesting technology. However, we seem to use that technology primitively in the fact that we use it to try to kill each other. Nuclear technology would be the best answer to all of our energy and power needs. We would rather use it to destroy life on earth.
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I say primitive because, once again this bears no relevance if you believe we are alone in the universe. I fear that we could self-destruct before we make inter-stellar and inter-planetary missions. If we remain war-like and barbaric, and violence continues to rule, I don't think we will live as a species long enough to even leave our solar system.
 
kal-el said:
I say primitive because, once again this bears no relevance if you believe we are alone in the universe. I fear that we could self-destruct before we make inter-stellar and inter-planetary missions. If we remain war-like and barbaric, and violence continues to rule, I don't think we will live as a species long enough to even leave our solar system.
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Theres nothing else out there other than space. We can travel out of our solar system but even at the speed of light itwould take like 15min to get to the sun at that speed. To pluto it would take us app 750minutes at the speed of light. The speed of light is 186000miles per second. We dont even have anything that can travel at 20000miles per hour let alone a second and we would still be some 160000miles per second short. That possibility will never come in 100generations.
 
SKILMATIC said:
Theres nothing else out there other than space. We can travel out of our solar system but even at the speed of light itwould take like 15min to get to the sun at that speed. To pluto it would take us app 750minutes at the speed of light. The speed of light is 186000miles per second. We dont even have anything that can travel at 20000miles per hour let alone a second and we would still be some 160000miles per second short. That possibility will never come in 100generations.
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My work is 7 miles away.
 
SKILMATIC said:
Theres nothing else out there other than space. We can travel out of our solar system but even at the speed of light itwould take like 15min to get to the sun at that speed. To pluto it would take us app 750minutes at the speed of light. The speed of light is 186000miles per second. We dont even have anything that can travel at 20000miles per hour let alone a second and we would still be some 160000miles per second short. That possibility will never come in 100generations.
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I don't believe there's any other intelligent life out there in our solar system. But remember, our universe is composed of an infinite number of solar systems, and space contains an infinite number of universes. What be be the point if a bunch of ants were the only ones inhabiting this vast space? You're corect, I believe our present rockets only travel around 40,000 mph. At that speed, it would take around 22,000 years to travel a light year. So, if there is intelligent life out there, and they have the means to travel faster than light, why would they want to make contact with a bunch of primitives, who use violence as a problem-solver?
 
kal-el said:
I don't believe there's any other intelligent life out there in our solar system. But remember, our universe is composed of an infinite number of solar systems, and space contains an infinite number of universes. What be be the point if a bunch of ants were the only ones inhabiting this vast space? You're corect, I believe our present rockets only travel around 40,000 mph. At that speed, it would take around 22,000 years to travel a light year. So, if there is intelligent life out there, and they have the means to travel faster than light, why would they want to make contact with a bunch of primitives, who use violence as a problem-solver?
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Because they are scared of the Marines, of course. Anyways, the univers is a huge place. It is egotistical for us to believe that our itty bitty speck of a planet is the only place that holds life. We could settle this now and just inquire into 'Canuck's' galaxy of origin.
 
So, since we're trying to bring the thread back on topic, I was harrassed by some "bring the troops home now" hippy-pascifist dude because I wouldn't sign their petition. He called me....wait for it...an ignorant conservative. :shock: I know, right? Even if I don't support the war, or the reason we went to war, it's a tad unfair to the Iraqi people to go in, remove their government and security, and than take off. I swear, some liberals are freakin dumb.
 
Kelzie said:
So, since we're trying to bring the thread back on topic, I was harrassed by some "bring the troops home now" hippy-pascifist dude because I wouldn't sign their petition. He called me....wait for it...an ignorant conservative. :shock: I know, right? Even if I don't support the war, or the reason we went to war, it's a tad unfair to the Iraqi people to go in, remove their government and security, and than take off. I swear, some liberals are freakin dumb.
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As I've stated before, despite your "very liberal" declaration, you are not what is considered "the left". THEY are morally decreptid, selfish, and feeble.
 
GySgt said:
As I've stated before, despite your "very liberal" declaration, you are not what is considered "the left".
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I dunno...although I suppose I do think post modern "art" is crap....maybe I'm a closeted conservative! Just kidding gunny. Glad you don't think I'm nuts, ;)
 
Kelzie said:
I dunno...although I suppose I do think post modern "art" is crap....maybe I'm a closeted conservative! Just kidding gunny. Glad you don't think I'm nuts, ;)
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I can tell sincerity from the "politically motivated."
 
Kelzie said:
So, since we're trying to bring the thread back on topic, I was harrassed by some "bring the troops home now" hippy-pascifist dude because I wouldn't sign their petition. He called me....wait for it...an ignorant conservative. :shock: I know, right? Even if I don't support the war, or the reason we went to war, it's a tad unfair to the Iraqi people to go in, remove their government and security, and than take off. I swear, some liberals are freakin dumb.
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I have to agree with you kelzie. Thats why liberalism is a mental disorder. I think your a conservative at heart kelzie you just dont know it yet. ;)

And yes it would be cruel if we just left the iraqis there.
 
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