Debate Politics Forums
Speak your voice
Go Back   Debate Politics Forums > Political forums > Sex and Sexuality

Sex and Sexuality Gender equality; Both are discriminated against. Unfairly for men....

View Poll Results: Which of the following do you believe?
Women are oppressed by the evil patriarchy! 0 0%
Women are generally discriminated against. 2 14.29%
Both genders are discriminated against. 10 71.43%
Men are generally discriminated against. 1 7.14%
Men are oppressed by the evil matriarchy! 0 0%
Gender discrimination is virtually non-existant. 1 7.14%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-24-08, 08:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
Middleground's Pimp
 
Gipper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Last Online: 11-01-08 09:11 AM
Location: Ala-f'n-bama
Posts: 1,600
Thanks: 136
Thanked 347 Times in 248 Posts
Lean: Libertarian
Gender: Male

Current Mood:
Woot
Re: Gender equality

Both are discriminated against. Unfairly for men.
__________________
A government big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away. - Barry Goldwater
Gipper is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Inline Ads
Old 07-24-08, 09:19 AM   #12 (permalink)
Professor

 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Last Online: Today 02:51 AM
Posts: 1,522
Thanks: 282
Thanked 316 Times in 230 Posts

Re: Gender equality

I'd say both sexes are discriminated against.

In some cases the discrimination is almost a quid pro quo for example women may get less pay for the same work or may be less likely to progress beyond whatever glass ceiling they face because of expectations they will bear children or that they will take up the dominant parenting role and the opposite of that is that if the parents divorce then women are more likely to win custody - even if they weren't the primary carer.
Infinite Chaos is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-08, 09:57 AM   #13 (permalink)
Hait-Wo
 
Scucca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Last Online: 09-23-08 06:40 PM
Posts: 2,534
Thanks: 0
Thanked 180 Times in 158 Posts

Re: Gender equality

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
for example women may get less pay for the same work or may be less likely to progress beyond whatever glass ceiling they face because of expectations they will bear children
Its labour market discrimination that I believe is the most important. Its through limited opportunities that a plethora of other inequalities are then spawned
__________________
Scucca is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-08, 10:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
Professor

 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Last Online: Today 02:51 AM
Posts: 1,522
Thanks: 282
Thanked 316 Times in 230 Posts

Re: Gender equality

To a large extent I agree with you, I am part of a father's support group for contact with their children and from our research those countries with better labour and gender discrimination laws also tend to have better examples of involvement by both parents in their children's lives.

It's no secret that Sweden is closest in terms of male and female salaries and labour laws - and more Swedish fathers play a decent 50% share in their children's upbringing.
Infinite Chaos is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-08, 10:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
Hait-Wo
 
Scucca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Last Online: 09-23-08 06:40 PM
Posts: 2,534
Thanks: 0
Thanked 180 Times in 158 Posts

Re: Gender equality

Quote:
Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
To a large extent I agree with you, I am part of a father's support group for contact with their children and from our research those countries with better labour and gender discrimination laws also tend to have better examples of involvement by both parents in their children's lives.
Indeed! Once you break through the more vicious discriminatory practices and ensure equal opportunities, the positive effects from family responsibility equity are in easy reach.

In Britain we've encouraged labour market participation, but seen substantial growth in low wage labour. Given women are more likely to receive those low paying jobs, we've been reliant on blunt measures such as the minimum wage to narrow gender wage differentials. We're only now seeing the need for more active anti-discriminatory laws. Not surprisingly, family responsibility demands are heavily skewed towards the female
Scucca is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-08, 12:28 PM   #16 (permalink)
User
 
Novae's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Last Online: 08-10-08 11:31 PM
Location: Pittsburgh, Pa
Posts: 10
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Lean: Independent

Current Mood:
Cynical
Thread Starter Re: Gender equality

I am definitely going to have fun here.

I posted a thread about the wage-gap (myth, in my opinion) in the economics section.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/econom...-gap-myth.html (Wage-Gap Myth)

Oh, do people actually use the debate forums around here? I haven't had a real debate before, but I'm thinking it looks like fun. I've got a week coming up (after my finals, but before my daughter's 4th birthday) that I'm going to be bored out of my mind...
Novae is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-08, 04:48 PM   #17 (permalink)
Make the stupidness stop
Mod team member

 
Zyphlin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Last Online: Yesterday 09:21 PM
Location: Herndon, Va
Posts: 4,942
Thanks: 1,779
Thanked 1,932 Times in 1,158 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Gender: Male

Awards:
Moderation Team:  Thank you!! 

Re: Gender equality

Both are discriminated against in the U.S. in different ways
__________________
Obama Wins. Time to reach for the new American Dream: "Strive for Mediocrity, avoid success, get free crap"
Zyphlin is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-08, 05:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
The Weather Man


 
Jerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Last Online: Today 02:22 AM
Location: Clinging tenaciously to my guns and bibles.
Posts: 9,412
Thanks: 1,885
Thanked 1,135 Times in 850 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Gender: Male

Awards:
Private Debates:  The person has participated in a Private Debate sponsored by DebatePolitics.com True Debate Winner:  True Debate Winner Private Debates:  Jerry has participated in a Private Debate. Reverse Debates:  Thank you! 

Current Mood:
Roflol
Re: Gender equality

Quote:
Originally Posted by Novae View Post
I'm new, and I don't know which forum this belongs in, but this is my best guess, since the forum description includes stuff about paternal and maternal rights.

Anyway, before I post anything else, I'd like to know everyone else's position on gender issues so I have some idea what I'll be getting into while posting here.

Oh, yeah...I haven't posted a poll before (anywhere), so this may not work well.
I vote for "both".

Women get the short straw in the work force, men get the shaft in divorce court. It generaly ballances out over all.
__________________
Lerxst was right
......Lerxst is always right
!Lerxst in 2012!
Jerry is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-08, 08:01 AM   #19 (permalink)
Educator

 
Marilyn Monroe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Last Online: Yesterday 09:46 AM
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,056
Thanks: 226
Thanked 118 Times in 100 Posts
Lean: Slightly Conservative
Gender: Female

Current Mood:
Sneaky
Re: Gender equality

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
I vote for "both".

Women get the short straw in the work force, men get the shaft in divorce court. It generaly ballances out over all.
I think everybody gets the shaft in the work force. Divorce has come a long way. Women have to pay child support now a days, and joint custody is becoming the norm.
__________________
"It's not that I'm afraid to die, I just don't want to be there when it happens." Woody Allen.
Marilyn Monroe is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-08, 03:57 PM   #20 (permalink)
Cold Moral Calculus
Mod Team Member

 
Korimyr the Rat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Last Online: Yesterday 07:41 PM
Location: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Posts: 3,001
Thanks: 646
Thanked 935 Times in 516 Posts
Lean: Independent
Gender: Male
Send a message via AIM to Korimyr the Rat Send a message via Yahoo to Korimyr the Rat

Awards:
Moderation Team:  Thank you!! 

Re: Gender equality

When I loaded this thread today, the mid-page banner ad for either page of the thread was for mail-order bride services-- one for Russians, the other for Chinese.
__________________
Korimyr the Rat is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Freedom, Collectivism, Equality, Individuality dragonslayer Polls 7 12-26-07 07:38 PM
Insane leftist idiots let children pretend to be members of the opposite sex jamesrage Sex and Sexuality 348 08-21-07 09:41 PM
Oregon governor signs gay rights bills Intransigent Atheist Archives 179 05-24-07 07:18 PM
The GySgt/Bub topic bub Archives 25 02-27-07 11:08 AM
Will the US remain a world power, if so how, if not why not? jfuh Archives 172 02-14-07 09:04 AM

Navigation
Home Main
spacer Home
spacer Newsroom
spacer Resources
spacer FAQ
spacer Chatroom

Extras Extras
spacer DP Store
spacer Statistics
spacer Worldmap
spacer Gallery
spacer Link to us

 Advertise Here!

Random Pic
by Billo_Really
· · ·
Member Galleries
1010 photos
219 comments



Debate Politics XML Feed

Add to my Yahoo!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:36 AM.

Partners with: Computer repair || Irrationally Informed

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Debate Politics.com Copyright ©2004-2008
SEO by vBSEO