Is there a gay politics connection - Page 2

1069 · 06-15-08, 04:00 PM

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but...uh...I'm super liberal...you know...like the stereotype...

My problem with the gay political establishment is that I think it's agist.

I think all the "we're here, we're queer, get over it", "what's wrong with ****ing in the streets" etc. guys grew up into the current "settle down my Vietnamese baby is sleeping", "your ****ing in the streets is lowering my property values" guys.

It infuriates me, they're basically saying "well, now that we're old and can't compete in the Babylonian indulgence game anymore...you all should stop too."

It's bull****.

That's all people, not just gay people.
There's a reason why the counterculture battlecry of the 1960s was "Never trust anyone over thirty."

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I hate gay people that join the heterosexual establishment. Live in the suburbs with their fake babies and their fakes lives and try to pretend their straight people, it's pathetic.

Gay people aren't "normal" we're gay. We're not "just like everyone else"- we're gay.

I don't want to ape the heterosexual lifestyle. I don't want an adopted foreign baby and suburban ranch style and a sensible car and all that miserable soul-sucking banality.

Sometimes I think it was better before Stonewall when we could do whatever we wanted because no one was watching.

Marriages have broken up over this very issue.
One partner quote/unquote "matures" at a faster rate than the other, and suddenly it's "Grow up and get with the program! You can't run around pretending to be sixteen forever! You're pathologically emotionally stunted." against "You're a sell-out, you lame establishment drone! At least I've remained true to my fundamental ideals."

And before you know it, divorce court beckons.

Don't worry; I'm sure you'll learn all about this for yourself, now that gay marriage will soon be legalized everywhere.

new coup for you · 06-15-08, 04:06 PM

I reject the value judgement of "maturity".

Driving and SUV forty miles to work from you 6,000 sqft McMansion to a job you hate is..."mature"?

1069 · 06-15-08, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by new coup for you

I reject the value judgement of "maturity".

Driving and SUV forty miles to work from you 6,000 sqft McMansion to a job you hate is..."mature"?

Wanting an SUV and a 6000 sq ft McMansion is mature.
Supposedly.

new coup for you · 06-15-08, 04:17 PM

i'd rather die then join the "cult of the weekend" people.

Gipper · 06-15-08, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NCFY

Yes you do, it's just so mainstream you don't even realize it.

The suburban nuclear family lifestyle is the straight lifestyle.

I'm in my late 20s, never married, no kids, and lived in an urban area for the majority of my life. Does this means I can apply for "honorary gayhood", or am I not counterculture enough for recognition?

I already got kicked out of the Yuppie Foundation when I moved to rural Alabama. I need a new cliche.

new coup for you · 06-15-08, 04:36 PM

it means you aren't living the traditional mainstream straight lifestyle.

Gipper · 06-15-08, 04:46 PM

That is such garbage thinking. It reminds me of black folk that consider someone who talks eloquently as "speaking white".

You set your own "culture" back with that sort of barbaric thought process. It's almost as if you walk around with your own "gay ruler", requiring people to measure up.

independent_thinker2002 · 06-15-08, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

I am as far right as a person can be without being an Anarchist.

You're a fascist?

mikhail · 06-16-08, 02:00 PM

I actually wasnt just talking about left and right.But also its seems that something about politics in general attracts alot of gay people more so then say sports.

Alex · 06-16-08, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

You're a fascist?

lol.. yes , I like my face.