June is Gay Pride Month! - Page 3

Scucca · 06-08-08, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethereal

You are the biggest drama queen in the world. Just because some people don't buy into your fuzzy little PC vision of the world doesn't make them bigots.

You should go for a critique for a change, just for the crack. Work effort dear boy

1069 · 06-08-08, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethereal

You are the biggest drama queen in the world. Just because some people don't buy into your fuzzy little PC vision of the world doesn't make them bigots.

This is a personal attack, and personal attacks are against the forum rules.
You are welcome to attempt to challenge my opinion, if you can.
You are not permitted to insult me personally, however, outside of the subforum called The Basement, which exists for exactly that purpose.
We are not there now, however.

SouthernDemocrat · 06-08-08, 04:47 PM

This is how I see it. The problem with Gay Pride parades is that for the most part, they a Mardi Gras just for gays, lesbians, and transgendered, with the premise that its supposed to be some kind of a political protest / statement.

Gays and lesbians have some legitimate grievances, namely they don't get equal treatment under the law in that they don't get the option in the majority of states of entering into some kind of civil union / legal marriage recognition, and (for those that agree with the premise of hate crime laws), they are not included in federal hate crimes statute despite being the victim of hate crimes.

This is the thing though, when Martin Luther King led the marches and protests in the 1960s that eventually turned the tide of pubic opinion enough for the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act be enacted, he did not have everyone in the march get dressed like a bunch of pimps and thugs. When Ghandi led his fellow Indians in protests against the British, they did not hit the streets dressed like freaks.

So, if you want equal rights, especially in regards to marriage / civil unions, then by all means hit the streets and demand the rights you should have. However, it would be a good idea if when you got out in large numbers and asked for the same rights the rest of us enjoy if you did not show up to the protest / march in drag, or with your boyfriend on a leash while wearing nothing but a tanktop and thong, or with your ass hanging out of some chaps, and so on. By all means hit the streets, but try looking like a regular American when you do it. Its hard to argue for equal rights and protections when you look like a sexual deviant when your doing it.

new coup for you · 06-08-08, 05:33 PM

I have no idea how this crazy myth, which is held by both gays (mostly old activists) and straights, that gay pride parades are for straight people to see. they're not. go home.

Kali · 06-08-08, 10:38 PM

I Love June!! I love GAY PRIDE and am Proud to be Bisexual!!!!

Kali · 06-08-08, 10:43 PM

For **** Sake get over the gay parade thing and if you do not like it? Do NOT GO! Simple as that! People that do not like it? Get over it. There are much more things to worry about in this world that a bunch of gay folks walking down a goddamn street having fun! Give Me a Break!

independent_thinker2002 · 06-08-08, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kali

For **** Sake get over the gay parade thing and if you do not like it? Do NOT GO! Simple as that! People that do not like it? Get over it. There are much more things to worry about in this world that a bunch of gay folks walking down a goddamn street having fun! Give Me a Break!

One break, coming up...........

.Take five.

Adrian · 06-09-08, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

It's all good. No offense taken and I meant none towards you either.

I think that I phrased some of my comments poorly, in all honesty. Maybe I can't explain it well either, because to me, what I said makes sense in that it is not something that you can't say no to, but it is something that they are trying to shove in my, or our, faces. It is no biggy, just like with any extreme thing, that Clan, for instance... I can choose to ignore it or walk away. Actually, the parade is fun to watch to some degree (I have been to the SF one) but what I would rather see, is the Parade toned down and for other groups to start some of their own, balance.

Again, I don't feel like it is being forced on me
What I feel is that they are trying to force it on us.

Just like with this OP.
It is almost offensive the way that he posted his opinions, as if we need to feel bad about the majority treating the gays poorly. It is like the Indians or slaves. I never owned a slave, and if there was an "ex-slave ancestor day Parade" ow something, then that would be lame too...

Hopefully this better explains my position.

Well, I don't really know exactly who the gay pride parades are directed at, but if they were directed at straight people, who do you think they were intended for? The Bodhisattvas of the world...or the Gippers?

Adrian · 06-09-08, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 1069

PPS- When things aren't fair, you don't bother "asking" for equal rights. You ****ing TAKE them.

Actually, and purely out of academic curiosity, are there any examples of groups being granted civil liberties where they didn't fight for them first?

winston53660 · 06-09-08, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrian

Actually, and purely out of academic curiosity, are there any examples of groups being granted civil liberties where they didn't fight for them first?

Isn't that what students are supposed to?