Has US abstinence policy failed? - Page 4

TacticalEvilDan · 04-27-08, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Onine

US Civil Government as a whole has failed in this regard.

As less changes are made annually, and more people still do not see the problem with public schools, this will likely only get more and more obvious.

Actually, the public school system is a smashing success.

Its aim is to manufacture graduates that are consumers first, employees second, loyal citizens after that. There is no interest whatsoever in turning out students who are capable of critical thinking and questioning authority, much less invention or innovation. Minds are being molded for maximum profitability.

These conclusions seem rather obvious to me when you look at the results the various school systems achieve every year, and in what respect those results are changing from year to year.

TacticalEvilDan · 04-27-08, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

Admit it, didn't you like the world better, wasn't it a safer place for you when the United States slumbered peacefully on its own side of the pond?

new coup for you · 04-27-08, 12:09 AM

Uhh...I don't know what you're public schools are like, but ours are just about the least qualified institution to be described as "ingraining a respect of authority" I can think of.

TacticalEvilDan · 04-27-08, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by new coup for you

Uhh...I don't know what you're public schools are like, but ours are just about the least qualified institution to be described as "ingraining a respect of authority" I can think of.

I don't think I ever once mentioned "ingraining a respect of authority."

new coup for you · 04-27-08, 12:16 AM

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There is no interest whatsoever in turning out students who are capable of critical thinking and questioning authority

That would be ingraining respect for authority

TacticalEvilDan · 04-27-08, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by new coup for you

That would be ingraining respect for authority

Um, no, no that would not.

Not teaching someone how to question isn't teaching someone to be unquestioning.

new coup for you · 04-27-08, 12:20 AM

...uh...ok...?

1069 · 04-27-08, 12:39 AM

You're all giving public schools way to much credit. Seriously.
Most teenagers don't pay any attention to anything that's taught there anyway.
Their main concerns are their social lives.
You seriously think any of them pay attention to what their teachers say, or are influenced by adults they encounter at school?

I mean, as a policy decision, I think it's great if there's a policy that "the purpose of public schools is not to teach morality or attempt to indoctrinate students or instill your own subjective opinions" or whatever.

But as a practical matter... I think it hardly matters what teachers say.
Who's listening?
They could probably get up in front of the class and recite dialogue from "H.M.S. Pinafore" or "Porgie and Bess", and their students would still just keep staring glaze-eyed into space, their minds a million miles away.

new coup for you · 04-27-08, 12:47 AM

I supremely doubt that the Republicans beating the gong of "abstinence only" are particularly concerned about its implementation. It's nothing more then a campaign tactic.

Arcana XV · 04-27-08, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

Americans just enjoyed the discomfort of the muslims and marvelled at the failure of the Danish social system to incorporate and civilize them.

Not the Americans I know.