mikhail

After reading this article today that kind hit home with me how are smart women really seen by society.

If someone was on some talk show and some guy ended his sentance with something like "theres a hell of lot of smart confident women in this world"he would probably get a nice little round of applause however in reality when these women get to be known in the public eye they are called stuck up bitches.

I know women know this too because some of the girls i know who are intelligent and confident ive witnessed turn into a silly damsel when i guy they like walks in the room.There is a women at work who does this to me also i know from her job performance she cant be as stupid as she acts.

The figures back them up to do this too.

"A study by Oxford University psychologists in 2006 found that having a high IQ is a boon for men in finding a partner – and for women, it is an obstacle. For each 16-point rise in IQ, a man is 35 percent more likely to find a partner – while for women, the same IQ bump reduces their odds by 40 percent. This is why so many clever women mask their intellects, in pubs and offices across the country."

So thoughts i know we got some smart women on this forum and dont go acting all modest about it?


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Panache

There are a couple reasons for this.

The first and most obvious reason is that smart women are too smart to hook up with losers. Dumb chicks with no self esteem will put out to anyone who can pay the rent and several that can't.

This means that the odds of a dumb girl finding a partner are higher because they are less picky. Smart girls are looking for a sophisticated, and sensitive guy who is also easy to understand and intensely masculine. He has to be handsome but not vain, and well off but not snobbish. He needs to be tactful enough to tell her what she wants to hear, but still manage to be honest at the same time. He has to be ambitious with his career, but never place it before his obligations to her. He needs to be perfect, and yet be perfectly modest about it.

In short, they are looking for me, and due to my tragic monogomousness, only one of them gets me.

The second reason is that smart girls tend to be the career oriented ones who don't evaluate their self worth based on their relationships, and don't need some guy to help pay the bills. As a result, finding a partner just isn't the priority to them that it is to dumber and less confident girls.

mikhail

I havent found this ive found if anything smart women are easier to get in bed because they figure the idea of a women being a slut if she sleeps around to just be a double standard they dont have to live by however i will look for some date that we can use to work out whos right.But for now i must drink.

reaganburch

I know before I was married I would have slept with a good-looking dumb chick... but if she were as dumb as a bag of chicken beaks, no way would I have dated her, much less married her...

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RightinNYC

Smart chicks are awesome. I got me a sugar mama and I'm stickin with her.

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Gipper

Dunno. If I find one, I'll let ya know.

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1069

This is something that happens to girls around puberty, statistically speaking.
Up until then, they are developmentally and cognitively far ahead of their male peers.
At puberty, they begin to plateau intellectually, and then fall behind.
Nobody can agree on exactly why.
Some people think it's biological, others think it's the result of social conditioning.
At puberty, the pressure to attract a potential mate begins.
Some people believe that women who are not intimidatingly smarter than their male peers have an easier time doing this.
I don't know.
I've always been smart, and I've never tried to hide it.
At the same time, there are certain ways in which I'm kind of borderline retarded (learning disabilities and such), and it is pretty obvious, and I've never tried to hide that either, and maybe some men find these areas of vulnerability endearing; I don't know.
I know that all my life, men have found it "cute" that I didn't know how to drive, and I never had any shortage of volunteers to drive me wherever I wanted to go, which led to laziness on my part, and I didn't ever learn to drive until I was about 30.

I think men like to feel useful, and sometimes it doesn't make them feel too good if a woman can do everything better than they can.
But I don't think that's any reason for women to pretend to be incompetent; it's certainly no reason for us as a society to deliberately, collectively retard the cognitive development of our growing girls.

I think these things may be changing, anyway.
I think within the next few generations, we'll see increasing equality between the sexes, and male self-estem will be independent of women's competence, intelligence, or lack thereof.
I think half the problem is that in the past, we've lived in a patriarchal society where men were privileged characters who received preferential treatment, and where any indication that women were as intelligent (or more so) than men flat-out made some men feel guilty about this; about male privilege.
Same reason white liberals sometimes feel guilty about white privilege, systematic racism, and the fact that whites have historically received preferential treatment over blacks.
This largely subconscious guilt can be eased or eliminated entirely if one can convince oneself that the group being systematically discriminated against- blacks, females, whatever- actually literally are inherently inferior, and therefore the shoddy treatment they receive is warranted.
But when they prove to one time and time again that they are inherently one's equal, if not one's better, one is placed in somewhat of a moral quandry. One almost has to face the fact that one is not, after all, superior; that one is undeserving of the privilege bestowed upon one by an accident of race or sex at birth; that the world is a big unfair ****ed-up place, and that one has somewhat of a moral responsibility to try and change it, in someone else's favor. Against one's own personal best interests.
It's not a comfortable feeling.
So much more comfortable if women just accommodate men by pretending to be inferior- by pretending this so convincingly and so well that they actually become inferior through lack of trying. It makes sense that society would reward a woman who acquiesced to- and became complicit in- patriarchy in this particular way.

But the times, they are a-changin'.
I really don't think this is going to be an issue for much longer.
We've already come such a long way; I fully expect to see gender equity within my lifetime, and then nobody will have to feel guilty about anything anymore, and nobody will have to pretend to be less than they are in order to spare others guilt anymore.

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Middleground

Wow, you have serious issues with women, it seems.

BTW, excellent post Panache. I could have written that, though not as elonquently.

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Gipper

Just f'n with ya, babe.

I'm going to be the alpha smartass of DP.

Mistress Moon

Ah, but smart women do not care how they are seen by society. Smart women care about how they see themselves.

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