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Old 02-04-08, 06:41 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Does it matter how big the lie?

I think most folks get way too hung up on the "trust" issue. Trust is only vital to a relationship if you make it vital to a relationship. Parents love their children even though they lie to them, what should make spouses any different?
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Old 02-04-08, 08:38 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think most folks get way too hung up on the "trust" issue. Trust is only vital to a relationship if you make it vital to a relationship. Parents love their children even though they lie to them, what should make spouses any different?
The expectation you have from your spouse is completely different from the expectation you have from your child. Comparing the two is like comparing an apple and the liberty bell.

I believe that trust is vital to a relationship. I trust my husband, I don't worry about him taking his paycheck to the casino, cuddling up to another woman, or any other "worry" I can think of. I just don't worry about those types of things because I trust him. I trust him because he doesn't lie to me.
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Old 02-04-08, 08:56 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Does it matter how big the lie?

I encourage, nay, require the beaux to lie. There are alot of things I just dont want to know about.
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When a spouse/SO lies to you, does it matter that the lie was little, or is it about the principle?
Lately, my spouse fucking lies to me constantly.
I've told him it makes me love him less every time he does it, but he won't stop.
Mostly, he funnels money and household items to his roughly 100,000 poverty-stricken relatives, and that's what he lies about.
Why does he lie?
Because, he claims, I wouldn't have let him do it if he'd told me the truth.

Well, maybe yes, maybe no.
I've been more than generous with certain of my in-laws in the past.
But I'd at least like the opportunity to know about it beforehand, you know.
Yes, I probably would make it a little more difficult for him, but is avoiding conflict worth giving up every shred of credibility you might have ever had, until every time you open your mouth it's anybody's guess whether or not the truth is going to come out of it?

No, these lies are "good" lies, I guess; he's more generous and altruistic than me. He'd give away everything he had, if I wasn't there to stop him. He just wants to help people in need. Even when these people screw him over a thousand times, he still wants to help them.
Then again, he doesn't have kids to support. I do.

The thing is, I know his nature. He behaves in a way that is consistent with his nature. He almost can't be expected to do any differently.
So these lies... in a deeper way, they're truths.
He is true to his nature. When I refuse to accept it, he feels forced to lie.
But he usually tells me the truth as soon as possible (like, as soon as whatever he's given away this time is irretrievable, and nothing I do or say will bring it back).
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Re: Does it matter how big the lie?

in what kind of demented logic is "I lied because otherwise you'd have said no" an excuse?
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in what kind of demented logic is "I lied because otherwise you'd have said no" an excuse?
I consider it passive aggression.
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Old 02-05-08, 12:04 AM   #17 (permalink)
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that doesn't seem particularly passive
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My wife has been threatening to cut her hair really short for some time right now. It would look horrible on her. I don't even know anything about that kind of stuff, and I can just imagine how terrible it would look. So I do what I can to prevent her from getting it cut too short. Her friend got her haircut really short and now she looks dumb. I tell her that she will look like that too.
Dude, get over it. She will cut her hair. My wife did and before she did I told her that she would look like a 12 year old boy. I have spent a few nites on the couch too.

I also told her that I would cut my hair, which I did. It's growin' back now though.
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Old 02-05-08, 06:21 AM   #19 (permalink)
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LOL, I knew those examples would be used.


Here some more random examples

Your spouse/SO lies about a financial purpose

Your spouse/ SO lies about an insignificant convo they had with someone else, either by embellishing, or making things up


Your spouse/ SO lies when you ask him or her if they finished something you ask.

The examples are endless
Okay, I see your examples. I would have problems if my husband lied about a financial purpose. I am an equal player when it comes to our money, and I'd want him to be honest with me about this thought processes.

Some people naturally embellish conversations, so that one isn't so bad to me, unless it is just an outright lie. Then I would have to question whether that was something I could live with.

Nevertheless, if you are catching lies here and there from small to big, I'd have to say that you may have a chronic liar, and is that something you really want? I love that I can rely on my husband's honesty about everything. He went to a strip place one night and told me several days later because he didn't want to hide it from me (I knew he was going out with a friend, but never asked where they went). I loved that he told me the truth. So it's a nice feeling that I dont' have to question whether what he says is the truth or not--I know it's the truth.

What does "dh" mean?
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What does "dh" mean?

dh=darling husband

I think....
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