rivrrat

LOL No kidding. My BF and I can quite comfortably discuss the attractiveness or unattractiveness of other women.

UGH. I agree. There's a woman here at work that wears perfume so damn heavy it makes me nauseous to be near her. Literally. I'm very sensitive to perfumes (many give me migraines and make me nauseous). I can't be around her. It's like she bathes in the crap.

Well, I do like having a tan, but I'm certainly not obsessed and I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about. LOL And I agree.

Well, that goes for men and women. hehe


I agree. If your boobs are hanging out, don't be all upset when someone looks at them.



OMG yes. I just don't give a CRAP what so-n-so is doing, or had done, or said. I just don't care and I can't seem to make myself care. Where I work here there are a bunch of women, and a bunch of smokers. When I would stand outside to smoke, often there were some other women around. I could hear them talking about so-n-so, and "OMG did you hear about....". Just drove me nuts. Then the next time I'm out there, there's different women but maybe one of the same previous women. That one woman is talking crap about the ones she was out there with previously. I mean, I just stood out there listening to this crap for months and months. Without saying a word to anyone, I was able to determine who I could trust and who the catty, gossipy, backstabbing bitches were. Sadly, most of them were the latter.

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You see I can do this with my wife. If the woman is on television.

If the woman is in the same vicinity as us though, its apparently different.

Like my wife lets me openly ogle this chick on the food network, who has a glorious rack on her petite body. But then she gets mad at me when my son was staring at our watiresses ***, as she was walking away, and I commented that the little guy could already pick 'em out.

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aps

I totally agree. I had a friend who would dress like a tramp and then get offended when men would make inappropriate comments to her.

That same woman got into a fight with her husband one time and left the house in an extremely inappropriate dress. She was an associate at a law firm and ran into one of the partners with his wife and children and was absolutely mortified that he saw her in that state. Serves her right for dressing like that. (On the whole, I don't have a problem with women dressing like tramps--it can look quite hot!)

reaganburch

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I think an in-shape female body is one of the most beautiful works of art there is...

When I was single and going out with my buddies to a bar, it always amazed me that a woman could come in dressed with her boobs mostly out, a skirt that left little to the imagination, etc... then would get mad if we would stare at her as she walked by...

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rivrrat

Insecurity. In person they're more of a threat. There's not much of a threat from someone on TV.

aps

*sigh* Me too.

Actually, a woman doesn't have to be in shape for me to think her body is a beautiful work of art.

WI Crippler

But they aren't a "threat" in person. Thats what I don't get. Its not as if I want to leave my wife for them. I just don't see anything wrong with having a healthy admiration for the female form.

aps

rivrrat is right--it's your wife's insecurity with herself in general. I bet if someone asked her, "Do you think your husband would leave for another woman," her answer would be no. It doesn't matter that she knows you won't leave her, that you love her, that you worship her body--it's her inner insecurity that doesn't like seeing you check out/comment on other women.

It doesn't make her a bad person. Personally, I think rivrrat, americanwoman, and my feelings on allowing our men to comment on other women are in the minority.

rivrrat

Let me clarify. She (and women like your wife) perceives them as a threat when they are there in person. I completely agree with you that they are not a threat, but the fact remains that she perceives them as such due to insecurity about herself or the relationship. It's not uncommon among women, and I just don't get it personally.

If my BF is going to cheat, he's going to cheat. And he's going to do so whether or not I notice him admiring another woman and admonish him for it. In fact, he's probably MORE likely to leave me/cheat if I acted in such an insecure, controlling manner.

I know very well that I'm certainly NOT the most attractive woman in the world. Hell, I'm not the most attractive woman in this city. I'm not the most attractive woman in this building! LOL I know this, I accept it. I'm okay with that because my goal in life is not to be the most attractive woman. I know there are a crapload of extremely sexy, attractive women out there. And you know what? I'm glad! I like looking at them too!

What I also know is that my BF is with ME. And he will remain with me until he chooses not to. And that fact isn't going to change or be affected by his admiration of some random attractive woman. To think that it would be affected by something so natural and benign is insulting to him, to me, and to our relationship.

Additionally, I recognize and understand that admiring an attractive person has nothing at all to do with me, my looks, or our relationship. How do I know this? Well, aside from common sense, I know this because I can look at attractive men and women and it has nothing to do with him, my feelings for him, or our relationship. So why wouldn't the same apply to him?

But, that's just me.

WI Crippler

Well I think my wife doesn't understand what kind of woman it would take to tear me away from her and my son. It would take much more than a nice rack,curvy ***, and a pretty face. In fact, I don't know that such a woman exists that could make me throw everything away.