Debate Politics Forums
Speak your voice
Go Back   Debate Politics Forums > Debate Politics Forum > Archives

Archives Parental honesty; I was talking to some friends earlier about the fact if we did have daughters we would very overprotective over ...

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-07-07, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
blond bombshell

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Last Online: Yesterday 08:13 PM
Location: uk
Posts: 3,526
Thanks: 263
Thanked 463 Times in 353 Posts
Lean: Independent
Gender: Male

Current Mood:
Sassy
Parental honesty

I was talking to some friends earlier about the fact if we did have daughters we would very overprotective over them when it came to boys i always have been with my sisters even though there older than me.But in all honesty if i had a daughter i wouldnt reccomend she only went with one guy not that i would like her going of with everyone but the truth is sex is very different with different people and an important part of any realtionship i just hope if i do have a daughter(s) i can be honest to them of the fact.

I know this applys to sons too but if i have a son his inherit sexual charisma will make celibacy impossible.
__________________
The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.
mikhail is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Inline Ads
Old 12-09-07, 04:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
Student
 
herenow1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Last Online: Yesterday 08:26 AM
Posts: 173
Thanks: 32
Thanked 31 Times in 26 Posts

Re: Parental honesty

What you speak of is very common. Of course people will call you sexist, but then they'd be calling the majority of men with daughters sexist. I want to treat mine the same but dh has already told me that he is going to be more strict with my girl, all because girls are different. That can cause some probs as well. The boundaries and or freedom need to be the same across the board.
herenow1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Old 12-09-07, 04:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
Little Ms Sunshine

 
1069's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Last Online: Today 12:42 AM
Posts: 13,776
Thanks: 4,180
Thanked 2,381 Times in 1,738 Posts

Awards:
Asshat of the year:  Winner of the Debate Politics 2008 Asshat of the Year Award. Congratulations! Reverse Debates:  This person has participated in reverse debates. 

Current Mood:
Where
Re: Parental honesty

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
I was talking to some friends earlier about the fact if we did have daughters we would very overprotective over them when it came to boys i always have been with my sisters even though there older than me.But in all honesty if i had a daughter i wouldnt reccomend she only went with one guy not that i would like her going of with everyone but the truth is sex is very different with different people and an important part of any realtionship i just hope if i do have a daughter(s) i can be honest to them of the fact.

I know this applys to sons too but if i have a son his inherit sexual charisma will make celibacy impossible.
My dad (a single parent) acknowledged my sex as little as possible.
By this I mean, I was not raised as a "girl", although of course I was one.
I was not given "girl toys" to play with. I was not dressed in "girl clothes", beyond my school uniform, which had a skirt. I was not encouraged to be frivolous or to behave in any conventionally "girly" manner.
During my childhood, I was not treated in any way that indicated that my father was even aware I had a gender.
Rather, he seemed to believe that I was a brain- a very gifted and talented brain- attached to a body which consisted of a set of arms and legs. And nothing else.

In a way, I think it would've been helpful if we had talked more about sex.
In another way, I think it would've been downright impossible, given who we are. Or were. And the sort of relationship we had, and the sort of person it was hoped that I'd grow into.
I really can't imagine things being any other way than what they were.
Although we do talk about sex a good deal now, now that we're both grown up. My dad tells a dirty joke better than anyone.

He has acknowledged to me, in retrospect, that my entire upbringing was very much an "experiment". The result of a conscious experiment.
There were new ideas in the 60s and 70s about ways to raise kids, which were supposed to be better than the traditional ways.
And my upbringing was the result of some of these ideas.
__________________
Lightdemon: "Is 10 going to outer space or something?"
Jerry: "...yes, 10 is going to outerspace."
1069 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Old 12-09-07, 05:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
blond bombshell

 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Last Online: Yesterday 08:13 PM
Location: uk
Posts: 3,526
Thanks: 263
Thanked 463 Times in 353 Posts
Lean: Independent
Gender: Male

Current Mood:
Sassy
Thread Starter Re: Parental honesty

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
My dad (a single parent) acknowledged my sex as little as possible.
By this I mean, I was not raised as a "girl", although of course I was one.
I was not given "girl toys" to play with. I was not dressed in "girl clothes", beyond my school uniform, which had a skirt. I was not encouraged to be frivolous or to behave in any conventionally "girly" manner.
During my childhood, I was not treated in any way that indicated that my father was even aware I had a gender.
Rather, he seemed to believe that I was a brain- a very gifted and talented brain- attached to a body which consisted of a set of arms and legs. And nothing else.

In a way, I think it would've been helpful if we had talked more about sex.
In another way, I think it would've been downright impossible, given who we are. Or were. And the sort of relationship we had, and the sort of person it was hoped that I'd grow into.
I really can't imagine things being any other way than what they were.
Although we do talk about sex a good deal now, now that we're both grown up. My dad tells a dirty joke better than anyone.

He has acknowledged to me, in retrospect, that my entire upbringing was very much an "experiment". The result of a conscious experiment.
There were new ideas in the 60s and 70s about ways to raise kids, which were supposed to be better than the traditional ways.
And my upbringing was the result of some of these ideas.
Intresting.My last girlfriend who i loved so much and in someways still do as we broke up for reasons more geographical and practical than in a bad way was raised by her father too and i think it was one of the reasons i liked her so much she was very much a women yet not a wimp or someone who saw men as dogs.Which is so sad in countries with so many girls and boys raised by just women it was different for me because even though i had 2 older sisters i always acted like their boyfriends had to go through me before being excepted.But i find it so sad many people grow up without a real male role model.I mean what man can a girl really depend on except her dad?
mikhail is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Old 12-09-07, 05:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
iniquitably employed

 
mixedmedia's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Last Online: 11-05-08 06:32 PM
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,557
Thanks: 80
Thanked 166 Times in 109 Posts
Lean: Liberal
Gender: Female

Re: Parental honesty

I don't think it's just being honest about sex or protective or unprotective of your daughters, it has more to do with allowing your children to develop as whole people. Not to suppress sexual thoughts and feelings and not to put too much emphasis on them, either.

I think it's important that we concentrate on children feeling secure, loved, respected leading to a healthy self-esteem. Not that these things will guarantee that your child will postpone having sex or will not be sexually experimental, but it will improve the chances of them making smarter choices and not becoming reliant on sex to validate their identity.

But the fact is, it is always their choice to make and they will make it with or without your approval.
__________________
Underneath the concrete, The dream is still alive
A hundred million lifetimes, A world that never dies - Talking Heads, City of Dreams

=|:{|
mixedmedia is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Old 12-09-07, 05:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
Little Ms Sunshine

 
1069's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Last Online: Today 12:42 AM
Posts: 13,776
Thanks: 4,180
Thanked 2,381 Times in 1,738 Posts

Awards:
Asshat of the year:  Winner of the Debate Politics 2008 Asshat of the Year Award. Congratulations! Reverse Debates:  This person has participated in reverse debates. 

Current Mood:
Where
Re: Parental honesty

Quote:
I mean what man can a girl really depend on except her dad?
True, dat.
1069 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Old 12-13-07, 07:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
Boobie Jubilee
Mod Team Member


 
Stace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Last Online: Yesterday 09:34 PM
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 7,214
Thanks: 197
Thanked 302 Times in 215 Posts
Lean: Slightly Liberal
Gender: Female
Send a message via Yahoo to Stace

Awards:
Moderation Team:  Thank you!! US Air Force:  Served honorably in the US Air Force 

Current Mood:
Cheerful
Re: Parental honesty

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikhail View Post
Intresting.My last girlfriend who i loved so much and in someways still do as we broke up for reasons more geographical and practical than in a bad way was raised by her father too and i think it was one of the reasons i liked her so much she was very much a women yet not a wimp or someone who saw men as dogs.Which is so sad in countries with so many girls and boys raised by just women it was different for me because even though i had 2 older sisters i always acted like their boyfriends had to go through me before being excepted.But i find it so sad many people grow up without a real male role model.I mean what man can a girl really depend on except her dad?
Well, I certainly couldn't depend on my dad. He and my mom divorced when I was five and he moved halfway across the country. Even when we eventually moved one state away, just a three hour drive, I rarely saw him.

And my stepdad? Don't make me laugh. He couldn't have cared less about me.

Thankfully, I did have my grandfather for the first twelve years of my life, as well as my older brother.
__________________
Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing.

~Benjamin Franklin

Stace is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Old 01-18-08, 01:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
User
 
nancyboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Last Online: 01-18-08 02:02 AM
Posts: 78
Thanks: 6
Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts

Re: Parental honesty

It seems a bit weird how you're all commenting on how important it is to have a male role model but not a female one. to be honest, I don't think sex is important. Why should it matter? as long as you teach your child to be honest, respectful, happy and kind, strong and confident, does it really matter whether the person teaching them has balls or ovaries?
__________________
One does not date cassie for a mutual loe of the works of Sylvia Plath.
My oven can cook anything. My oven can cook... bits of oven!
nancyboy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Old 01-18-08, 02:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
Upper West Side Jacobin

 
new coup for you's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Last Online: Today 02:14 AM
Location: Philly, "The City that shoves you back!"
Posts: 8,268
Thanks: 498
Thanked 1,430 Times in 1,032 Posts
Gender: Male

Re: Parental honesty

It's difficult to communicate to children that their situation is genuinely different then your own, and that you're not just trying to "spoil their fun".

My little sister, who's fifteen, thinks i'm being hypocritical when I get mad at her for acting slutty.

Being a 21 year old gay man is different from being a 15 year old girl. I don't have to justify myself to her.

I can do things with my bf that she shouldn't, and I'm not being a hypocrite saying so.
__________________
And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my bike.
new coup for you is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
Old 01-18-08, 02:56 AM   #10 (permalink)
Student
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Last Online: 10-29-08 02:46 AM
Location: Oregon
Posts: 246
Thanks: 100
Thanked 40 Times in 36 Posts
Lean: Slightly Liberal
Gender: Female

Current Mood:
Bookworm
Re: Parental honesty

Quote:
Originally Posted by mixedmedia View Post
I don't think it's just being honest about sex or protective or unprotective of your daughters, it has more to do with allowing your children to develop as whole people. Not to suppress sexual thoughts and feelings and not to put too much emphasis on them, either.

I think it's important that we concentrate on children feeling secure, loved, respected leading to a healthy self-esteem. Not that these things will guarantee that your child will postpone having sex or will not be sexually experimental, but it will improve the chances of them making smarter choices and not becoming reliant on sex to validate their identity.

But the fact is, it is always their choice to make and they will make it with or without your approval.
Good post.
savoir-faire is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!Spurl this Post!
 


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Navigation
Home Main
spacer Home
spacer Newsroom
spacer Resources
spacer FAQ
spacer Chatroom

Extras Extras
spacer DP Store
spacer Statistics
spacer Worldmap
spacer Gallery
spacer Link to us

 Advertise Here!

Random Pic
by jfuh
· · ·
Member Galleries
1010 photos
219 comments



Debate Politics XML Feed

Add to my Yahoo!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 AM.

Partners with: Computer repair || Irrationally Informed

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Debate Politics.com Copyright ©2004-2008
SEO by vBSEO