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Old 11-17-07, 08:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The 19-year-old victim was sentenced last year to 90 lashes for meeting with an unrelated male, a former friend from whom she was retrieving photographs. The seven rapists, who abducted the pair and raped both, received sentences ranging from 10 months to five years in prison.

The victim's attorney, Abdulrahman al-Lahim, contested the rapists' sentence, contending there is a fatwa, or edict under Islamic law, that considers such crimes Hiraba (sinful violent crime) and the punishment should be death.

"After a year, the preliminary court changed the punishment and made it two to nine years for the defendants," al-Lahim said of the new decision handed down Wednesday. "However, we were shocked that they also changed the victim's sentence to be six months in prison and 200 lashes."


The judges more than doubled the punishment for the victim because of "her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media," according to a source quoted by Arab News, an English-language Middle Eastern daily newspaper.

Judge Saad al-Muhanna from the Qatif General Court also barred al-Lahim from defending his client and revoked his law license, al-Lahim said. The attorney has been ordered to attend a disciplinary hearing at the Ministry of Justice next month.

Al-Lahim said he is appealing the decision to bar him from representing the victim and has a meeting with Justice Minister Abdullah bin Muhammad bin Ibrahim Al Al-Sheikh on Monday.

Al-Lahim said he wanted the Justice Ministry to take "a very clear standing" on the case, saying the decision is "judicial mutiny against reform that King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz started and against Saudi women who are being victimized because of such decisions."

Women are subject to numerous restrictions in Saudi Arabia, including a strict dress code, a prohibition against driving and the need for a man's permission to travel or have surgery. Women are also not allowed to testify in court unless it is about a private matter that was not observed by a man, and they are not allowed to vote.

The Saudi government recently has taken some steps toward bettering the situation of women in the kingdom, including the establishment earlier this year of special courts to handle domestic abuse cases, adoption of a new labor law that addresses working women's rights, and creation of a human rights commission.

CNN was unable to reach government officials for comment.
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Old 11-17-07, 08:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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And people say the war isn't justified
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And people say the war isn't justified
As WWI was overshadowed by WWII, the free world soon forgot about the arabismic (arabysmal ) caliphate.

Where was the US goal in iraq, as in the reconstruction of Turkey, to mandate secular government by martial law?

Iraq has a unique sectarian demographic, such that no particular sect of mushroom hats might surmount, although, the extent to which sharia law may be implemented (upon which the government is founded) should not be underestimated.
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Arabism is the one true religion of peace.

This is elegant proof that Islam needs to be separated from government at all costs.

It's also sufficient reason to sentence each member of the is-lame-*** court of corrupt arab scumbags to 1000 lashes.

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We aren't fighting the Saudis.
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We aren't fighting the Saudis.
Radical Islamic law is only inforced in that one country? Oh, I didn't realize.
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We aren't fighting the Saudis.
But we are indeed engaged in a struggle against Wahabbism. This medieval interpretation of Islam is synonymous with the Kingdom.

More often than not, the Saudi judiciary will allow the family of a female charged with a Zina offense (illicit sex) to determine her punishment. It matters not a whit to male family members if a female relative was forcibly raped. All that matters is that she was a party to illicit sex and has thus dishonored both herself and the family. In virtually every instance in which male family relatives adjudicate Zina punishment, a death sentence is agreed upon. At this point, strict measures are implemented to prevent the female from committing suicide. Such an outcome would defeat the Saudi family tradition of commingling execution with abject intimidation.

Two methods of family execution for a Saudi female are favored in the Kingdom. One favored method involves drowning the female in the family swimming pool. This brutality is witnessed by the extended family... sometimes numbering in the hundreds. Women and children are forced to attend and observe. The body remains in the water until it is fully bloated.

The second favored method is horrific almost beyond words. A room in the house is emptied of everything and sealed... plunging the room into total darkness. Within this pitch black enclosure, the female will remain until she expires from starvation. Before this end occurs though, she will first go insane. Female family members will be forced to listen to her almost inhuman screams for hours on end.

Typically, the corpse of the executed female will eventually be deposited in a shallow and unmarked grave far out in the Saudi desert. No one will ever mention her name again. In all ways, she has been expunged forever.
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We aren't fighting the Saudis.
We should be....nearly all of the 9/11 Terrorists were Saudis....
But the Bush family has friends there, so they went after Iraq instead.
Go figure.
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But we are indeed engaged in a struggle against Wahabbism. This medieval interpretation of Islam is synonymous with the Kingdom.

More often than not, the Saudi judiciary will allow the family of a female charged with a Zina offense (illicit sex) to determine her punishment. It matters not a whit to male family members if a female relative was forcibly raped. All that matters is that she was a party to illicit sex and has thus dishonored both herself and the family. In virtually every instance in which male family relatives adjudicate Zina punishment, a death sentence is agreed upon. At this point, strict measures are implemented to prevent the female from committing suicide. Such an outcome would defeat the Saudi family tradition of commingling execution with abject intimidation.

Two methods of family execution for a Saudi female are favored in the Kingdom. One favored method involves drowning the female in the family swimming pool. This brutality is witnessed by the extended family... sometimes numbering in the hundreds. Women and children are forced to attend and observe. The body remains in the water until it is fully bloated.

The second favored method is horrific almost beyond words. A room in the house is emptied of everything and sealed... plunging the room into total darkness. Within this pitch black enclosure, the female will remain until she expires from starvation. Before this end occurs though, she will first go insane. Female family members will be forced to listen to her almost inhuman screams for hours on end.

Typically, the corpse of the executed female will eventually be deposited in a shallow and unmarked grave far out in the Saudi desert. No one will ever mention her name again. In all ways, she has been expunged forever.
Anything that puts a soldier between Wahabbism and women is okay in my book.
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