Originally Posted by Summerwind

With so many pages to this thread, I may be repeating a question already asked and answered but I didn't see it in scanning through.

Question: what is your definition of sex. If masterbation is considered sex, and I do consider it sex. Then the age concept changes quite quickly.

However, I have noticed amongst teens that not only is masterbation not considered sex; but neither is oral or anal sex considered sex (except I guess for gay boys). I have listened to girls swear they have never had sex; but they have given head in the lockrooms and have been anally penetrated. So I wonder anymore what is sex these days?

Originally Posted by FallingPianos

I wouldn't consider masturbation to be sex, though mutual masturbation arguably could be.

the entire concept of virginity is messed up. I reject the idea that just because someone hasn't had sexual intercourse they are "pure", or that if they have had sexual intercourse (voluntarily) they are no longer pure.

the only thing that significantly differentiates intercourse from other sex acts is the risk of pregnancy. things like intimacy and purity are very similar.