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Old 02-08-10, 10:24 PM   #11
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Re: Interesting Conversion Therapy Article

"Otherwise, this is a dangerous and illegal practice." - CaptainCourtesy

Huh? Dangerous and illegal?
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***** Now Let's say some "Christians" really believe this. Let's say they are in conract thru normal association with some Gays - then Let's say they proceed with a Faith based approach to what they might succeed in convincing a few Gays is "their" genuine problem.

**** Like Who cares ???? It's well below the level of the Looney Child Abuse /Satanic Cult nut cases or Peoples Temple or the Westboro crowd.
How would conversion therapy work on a straight man to 'fix' him and make him a homosexual.

What sorts of repercussions do you think that would have on a person?
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***** Unless someone is either abducted or held against their will it doesn't matter. You sound like it's some Holy Grail that needs protecting.
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How would conversion therapy work on a straight man to 'fix' him and make him a homosexual.

What sorts of repercussions do you think that would have on a person?
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***** Unless someone is either abducted or held against their will it doesn't matter. You sound like it's some Holy Grail that needs protecting.
There are instances in which people are forced to do it against their will, such as children being raised and parents disapproving of their sexuality. Parents often have enough control over their children to force them into situations like this.
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***** Unless someone is either abducted or held against their will it doesn't matter. You sound like it's some Holy Grail that needs protecting.
There are people that are forced into such a thing. Teenagers for instance who come out, and then are taken to be "fixed" by this so-called conversion.

I just posed a simple question.

If a hetero person were put through this sort of thing, what sorts of ramifications would this have on a person? Trying to make them feel as though they have a mental illness because of their sexual orientation... ?

I just don't understand why people in this day and age, see homosexuality as some kind of mental deficiency. I am a heterosexual adult woman and I couldn't imagine someone approaching me and telling me that I shouldn't be heterosexual and that I had to be "helped" by conversion - that my heterosexuality was some sort of mental problem and that I could thusly be "cured".
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"Otherwise, this is a dangerous and illegal practice." - CaptainCourtesy

Huh? Dangerous and illegal?
Performing any unnecessary treatment can be dangerous. A professional performing this unnecessary treatment on something that is not a disorder is not only unethical, but could be considered an illegal practice. The professional could have their license revoked.
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Conversion therapy is unethical and banned by the APA. It is against ethics to treat someone for something that is NOT a disorder.
I have to wonder though, does this mean it cannot be explored? as long as it's their choice to participate?

Otherwise, should transexual surgery also be banned and unethical? And plastic surgery? There are many things I can name that are not disorders, and yet, are treated or..."corrected" by doctors all the time. why is this different?
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Old 02-09-10, 08:32 PM   #19
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Re: Interesting Conversion Therapy Article

“A professional performing this unnecessary treatment on something that is not a disorder is not only unethical…” - CaptainCourtesy

So this “unnecessary treatment” that many have benefitted from for something that many mental health professionals do consider a disorder is “unethical”?

Are you aware that it has been demonstrated that this “unnecessary treatment” is not dangerous?

“…but could be considered an illegal practice.” - CaptainCourtesy

“Could be considered” illegal by whom?

I think you may be mistaken.

Such treatment is neither "unethical" nor "illegal".

“The professional could have their license revoked.” - CaptainCourtesy

Many professionals offer this service without any fear of having their licenses revoked--a fact of which I am certain you are quite aware.
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Old 02-09-10, 08:34 PM   #20
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Re: Interesting Conversion Therapy Article

“I have to wonder though, does this mean it cannot be explored? as long as it's their choice to participate?

Otherwise, should transexual surgery also be banned and unethical? And plastic surgery? There are many things I can name that are not disorders, and yet, are treated or..."corrected" by doctors all the time. why is this different?”
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It’s not different. With anything there are risks and you have to weigh the benefits against the risks.

How many ads do you see on TV advertising some kind of medication? Probably more than either of us could name off the top of our heads, right? And at the end of every commercial the spokesman for the medication rattles off a list of side-effects that may be suffered as a result of taking the medication.

And people still take the medicine?

Why?

Because the benefits are greater than any perceived risks.
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