For Those Opposing Gay Marriage: Answer This One Question: How Does It Affect You?

Southern Man · 02-11-09, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

You haven't shown the cause for these "failed sub-cultures". From your source:

and

The need for these dissipated due to changes in dynasties or governments. Not because it had destablized society.

Belgium, Canada, Netherlands, Norway, South Africa, Spain all have a lot more happy people now. Tell me how having more people who feel happy as opposed to feeling like second class citizens or feeling persecuted doesn't benefit society as a whole.

The cause of the failures is unimportant; gay marriage was tried and those sub-cultures no longer exist.

Kindly present evidence that people in general are happy about gay marriage in those countries where it is now law. The fact that it is voted down routinely and decisively in US jurisdictions tells me that people here are happy to keep marriage traditional.

jallman · 02-11-09, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

The cause of the failures is unimportant; gay marriage was tried and those sub-cultures no longer exist.

Can you demonstrate that it was because of gay marriage?

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Kindly present evidence that people in general are happy about gay marriage in those countries where it is now law. The fact that it is voted down routinely and decisively in US jurisdictions tells me that people here are happy to keep marriage traditional.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Southern Man · 02-11-09, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy

No. You have been asked to provide evidence and have refused. I want to see it and examine it.

Post 604.

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Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy

And reality is that when value judgments are made, some evidence to substantiate these judgments also need to be made, or the value judgments are just worthless opinions. You have offered no substantiation, so it is clear where your value judgments leave you.

I have used logical arguments to substantiate my opinions and they have been met with emotional arguments and simple belligerence.

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Incorrect. You present a theory based on your own opinion and agenda. I see no logic presented.

Again, you apparently choose to ignore the logic of my arguments.

jallman · 02-11-09, 03:10 PM

1-2-3 and dip and tap and do si do, the stinger shuffle hits the floor!!!

Southern Man · 02-11-09, 03:17 PM

You've obviously long ceased attempting to use logic and reason.

jallman · 02-11-09, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

You've obviously long ceased attempting to use logic and reason.

Just responding in kind, stinger.

independent_thinker2002 · 02-11-09, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

The cause of the failures is unimportant; gay marriage was tried and those sub-cultures no longer exist.

Kindly present evidence that people in general are happy about gay marriage in those countries where it is now law. The fact that it is voted down routinely and decisively in US jurisdictions tells me that people here are happy to keep marriage traditional.

You said that gay marriage would destablize society. Now it doesn't matter?

The gay people are happy.

Southern Man · 02-11-09, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

Just responding in kind, stinger.

What's a "stinger"?

Southern Man · 02-11-09, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

You said that gay marriage would destablize society. Now it doesn't matter?

The gay people are happy.

There's lots of ways to make less than 1% of the population happy while making the remainder unhappy. For example, you could tax all those who have birthdays other than mine and give the money to people with birthdays the same as mine. $1000 each would put $364,000 in my pocket, and I'd be very happy. Most people, however, wouldn't be.

jallman · 02-11-09, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Southern Man

What's a "stinger"?

He obviously taught you how to do the "shuffle".

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