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Old 02-14-09, 09:37 PM   #1101
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You mean like the belief that blacks and women weren't qualified to do certain things in the past?
Or the belief that robbers aren't qualified to do certain stuff now?

All I'm suggesting is automatic calls about equality and discrimination are far from the best argument. All men are not equal, not all discrimination is bad.
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You mean like the belief that blacks and women weren't qualified to do certain things in the past?
No, not like that. That is a civil rights issue. Marriage is not a civil rights issue.
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As are your attacks that you make on conservatism. I will call you on that.
My attacks are a response to partisan bs. I am showing the silliness of it through example. If I do attack conservatism in a partisan way, not as a response, I would expect you to go after me on it, as it would not be cool.
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No, not like that. That is a civil rights issue. Marriage is not a civil rights issue.
If I took away the right of Christians to marry, does it now become a civil rights issue?
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Firstly all men are not equal. Not appointing most people to high office flies in the face of equality as well. Equality is not everything and it is often in tension with liberty.

It certainly does matter who is being treated as a second class citizen, as well as how they are and why.
Everyone has the equal opportunity to achieve high office.

All people aren't equal, but belonging to a certain group shouldn't be an automatic disqualifier. The opportunity should be equal.
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All men are not equal, not all discrimination is bad.
That's your opinion, no one cares about your opinion...people DO care about facts and legitimate sources.

You assume discrimination is a good thing UNTIL people start discriminating against you. What if your boss said "No more ugly people in my building" and fired you for being ugly, would you react positively, shrug your shoulders and say "meh...he's only discriminating, I dont blame him"
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My attacks are a response to partisan bs. I am showing the silliness of it through example. If I do attack conservatism in a partisan way, not as a response, I would expect you to go after me on it, as it would not be cool.
I'm looking forward to our discussions.
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Don't you have a spirit?
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Straights are healthier mentally, physicially and spiritually than homosexuals and, thus, are a benefit to society. The medical professionals are my source.
I was wondering what proof there was that straights are healthier than gays, spiritually.
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If I took away the right of Christians to marry, does it now become a civil rights issue?
No one took away the right of gays to marry. They never had it.
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Or the belief that robbers aren't qualified to do certain stuff now?

All I'm suggesting is automatic calls about equality and discrimination are far from the best argument. All men are not equal, not all discrimination is bad.
People choose to be robbers. People don't choose to be black or their gender (for all intents and purposes of this discussion).
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