Thread: Zoophilia

What guys/gals ****ing animals?
You're off your rocker, no way.

Getting your kick off of bugs bunny? No way dude, that's too... erm... Let me think of the word... Why don't you just call him buggery bunny? That's worse than furries and plushophiles!

In fact, vote against it here, if you want to succeed:
Zoophilia should be not not allowed Petition : [ powered by iPetitions.com ]

Well if I said yes, I'd be banned from a politics site.
You honestly think them total recluses you name zoos would honestly wanna press your poll?

I mean, I agree with freedom of speech and all, I'm very liberal, even though no liberal party is actually liberal where I come from, so I support indepence.

May be if they're not harmed its not so cruel really, is it?

Ok, ban bestiality (rape of animals), release the non-rapists.

Next stop, pedophilia Not that children can consent unlike animals. Unless you think animals can't consent to copulation

Too many s to hope!

Ah...we always remember our first posts.

Originally Posted by DavidCarter2009

What guys/gals ****ing animals?
You're off your rocker, no way.

Getting your kick off of bugs bunny? No way dude, that's too... erm... Let me think of the word... Why don't you just call him buggery bunny? That's worse than furries and plushophiles!

In fact, vote against it here, if you want to succeed:
Zoophilia should be not not allowed Petition : [ powered by iPetitions.com ]

Well if I said yes, I'd be banned from a politics site.
You honestly think them total recluses you name zoos would honestly wanna press your poll?

I mean, I agree with freedom of speech and all, I'm very liberal, even though no liberal party is actually liberal where I come from, so I support indepence.

May be if they're not harmed its not so cruel really, is it?

Ok, ban bestiality (rape of animals), release the non-rapists.

Next stop, pedophilia Not that children can consent unlike animals. Unless you think animals can't consent to copulation

Too many s to hope!

Pointing to how many have stressed that murdered abortion Dr Tiller wasn't breaking any laws on another thread, in my state and 13 others bestiality is legal unless the animal seriously physically harmed as a matter of animal cruelty.

So take thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

As I've explained many times on many different forums: animals don't have rights [ame="http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=142296"][2][/ame], and nothing you can possibly do to your own property can ever be illegal, as long as it doesn't violate the rights of other human beings.

Originally Posted by Alex Libman

As I've explained many times on many different forums: animals don't have rights [2], and nothing you can possibly do to your own property can ever be illegal, as long as it doesn't violate the rights of other human beings.

Then why do infants and the mentally disabled have rights? Or do you believe they should not? I'm not one to beg the question.

Human beings own themselves, individually, based on one's assumed capacity to be a rational economic actor. (Read the links in my previous post for details.) In the case of children, mentally incompetent individuals, and convicted criminals, some of their natural rights (i.e. liberty and property) are merely transferred to their parents / guardians / victims, but they retain their "right to life" and "right to emancipation".

Currently no species is known of having the capacity of even a minuscule chance of earning emancipation -- that is proving oneself capable of reason, taking responsibility for one's actions, respecting the rights of others, and pulling one's own economic weight in a modern society -- other than a human being. This question will be revisited in the event of extraterrestrial intelligence, A.I., or parahumans arriving on the scene.

Originally Posted by DavidCarter2009

Next stop, pedophilia [...]

Pedophilia has existed since the dawn of time, and always will. In a free society, the main mechanism of protecting against it would be the parents' / guardians' right to prosecute whoever had "inappropriate relations" with their dependents (regardless of age / mental capacity), even if they and the "child" claim that it was consensual. (The "child" can get around this by suing for emancipation, and once emancipated s\he can grand a full "pardon" to the alleged rapist regardless of the parents' accusations.) And if it wasn't consensual - rape is rape, regardless of the age of the victim.

There is less of a balance against parents violating their own children, which is how it should be - different cultures have different standards of tolerance for incest and the law should not interfere. In fact it was quite common in most parts of the world until Victorian England had forced its morals upon others. Children have the right to sue for emancipation, possibly under the condition of adoption by a charity that specializes in helping abused children, which means parents cannot do anything to keep their children from exposing them to society at large, and parents who abuse their children would most obviously be ostracized by the rest of society.

Yes/No , animals were not given rights by any Judaic religion, in fact we are supposed to eat them instead , and its mostly Judaic religions that are at the core of most country's law systems, right? If they're not Judaic, they stem from it, or a similar belief. This is because Judaism flooded the world after the Roman and Greek (Macedonian and Athenian (Delian League)), etc Empires collapsed. They were designed in order to get faith and civilisation back into people, suffering from the apocalyptic aftermaths of such collapses, where apathy lurked, where emotion failed, lead to people wanting war for no reason, because that's all they knew, then there came the

And still these religious people base all their opinions on possible 'fake' claims, made by possibly 'fake' people.
From simply animal rights, to bestiality, for example, under bestiality, read on the 'Tribe of Levi' and others in the Old Testament of the Christian/Jewish Bible:
Leviticus 20:15
And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
Exodus 22:19
Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.
Leviticus 18:23
Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.

Where is the 'Thou shalt not watch Beauty and The Beast, King Kong, Planet of The Apes, etc; it is confusion, and is evil; anybody who watches it will be surely put to death'. Sigh, well that's what you get when you over publicise someone's opinion across a long line of time. Religion is template to help society, not a self-opinionated rule-book anyhow. This is slander, I condemn them to eternity in their own religion's 'hell' because they were being blasphemous about God's powers in their opinion as to whether bestialists should be strike down or not.

Anybody care to enlighten me, 'who were they', and how come 'bestialists don't exactly drop dead 24/7'?

The old 'babble' is whole load of ancient opinions, some successful, some not.

I have been to real world debates, Christian in particular, over sexuality, and I have brought up bestiality before, it seems to me that New Testament clergymen support bestiality more than those who are wrapped around with the Old Testament. Well they don't exactly support it, nor do they not.
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I mean there's another angle on it too,

So you go buy an animal, its now your property, you have sex with it, love or lust (any combination and amount), basically the animal is one big dildo. You are allowed to buy and even let 'plants' and 'trees' die, they are alive, but you can't do anything like that to an animal.

Well, an animal does have a nervous system, but these people want their cake and eat it, (one thing in the same subject is allowed, but not the other).

I have read every line in my previous adoption certificates from the pets have owned once before, down the road of life, and its only the latest that say property, the old ones said livestock. So as soon as the bestiality rules came out, in the country I once lived, UK, and the time before, when I lived in NYC, NY, USA were suddenly paradoxial, because although you can't **** pets anymore, they are now called property. So it lead to me thinking that pets are property, and bestialists have the right, if they went to court, even though its a lot of money, even two to ten years is a lot of time.

I have joined zoophilia websites, but I were never a zoophile. I guess I was just looking for a difference. It may seem unclear to you, what I am now going to say, but because I want freedom and equality for all, I'm going to become a zoophile. Although it might sound a little sick, the actual activity makes me bork. But if I just make out I have sex, but don't, at least that's enough to give these little blights some good hardy freedom ? - Quoted from someone else, perhaps, or is that really me?
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Think about this...

There's some guy waving his dick/vagina around, the guy/gal is pansexual, but is a well known anti-zoo, and then his/her dog suddenly licks his/her dick/vagina, the guy/gal likes it so much, he/she can't refuse, he/she reaches an orgasm, and can't be bothered to continue, because its late and he/she wants to sleep.
He/she tries it again the next day, because he/she can't get enough, and this time, the dog starts to sniff and lick his/her anus, more and more, so he ups his/her butt into the air, and the dog humps and gives him/her anal/vagina!

There you have an instant zoophile, right?
Now you tell me, who was the molester, and who was the victim? Surely if both parties were consensual, it is the beast that laid with you, not the other way around!
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Hey, as for pedophilia...
Its the parents/guardians that should protect, not the law.
If a kid wants to consent to sex with an adult, live and let live. The police and law should protect kids, etc if the adults/guardians won't help, I agree, but, bringing down freedom is not the answer.
That way, children would have freedom to do so, or do not.

Not that I support pedophilia, I think its sick. But if bestiality isn't sick, pedophilia surely ain't? Another opinionated, rhetorical question that only pedophiles can only subscribe to (like a petition ).

Same goes with religious extremism (terrorism), why favour a particular religion, when all you've got to do is up the anti-terror defence? Beat genocide at the shield, not the sword. There's no need for anybody to lose their freedom.

That's all society needs. Before you know it, utopia. If only, eh?

Its just opinion, end of.
I've expressed mine.

I have defended many religions and sexuality, and now I shall do the same with bestiality.

Viva (la) FREEDOM!

I may support indepence, but if true liberty existed in politics, I would choose a liberal party! But at the moment the world needs freedom from others, we need independence too!

I'm going to join EqualityForAll now.

Thanks for reading my three page long super-essay!

That's why they made EqualityForAll I guess, why not join it for freedom's sake!
Equality For All
E.F.A.
E.F.A.: Membership

Thanks again for reading!

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This image from the E.F.A. wins the Tucker Case Image of the Week Award:

Wow, thats a huge penis on that cat.

And why not the animated edition?
[No answer needed] [rhetorical]

Wag that dick, pussy!
I'm sorry, weren't you meant to have a pussy instead?