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Master PO said:
there are people who say they are christian, and don't follow the word truly, because they support homosexuality so some of their beliefs are not within the bible,

however that does not change the sin in the bible, because they dont think it is a sin.
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This is your belief, as we've said, it's subjective. Others have no obligation to follow your interpretation.


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roguenuke said:
Not all Christians believe this. Just as some Christians believe interracial marriage is a sin. Others believe interfaith marriages are a sin. Many believe marriage after divorce is a sin.


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cant be a sin, because it not a sin in the bible.
 
Master PO said:
homosexuality is a sin, the bible teaches that if you support a sin in any way, you yourself are sinning

example: if a person is not gay, but advocates for homosexuality and supports it, they are supporting sin and committing a sin themselves.
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Ill ask you AGAIN, What does homosexuality factually have to do with baking a cake?
 
Master PO said:
:lamo impossible for you be a christian, one must believe in the way the truth and the life, without that you cannot be christian
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LMAO you have ZERO power or authority to judge if somebody is a christian or not. ZERO:lamo
 
roguenuke said:
This is your belief, as we've said, it's subjective. Others have no obligation to follow your interpretation.


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its not mind, what is in the bible, the bible calls sin, is sin, you cant change that

you and the others know very little of christianity ....
 
Master PO said:
cant be a sin, because it not a sin in the bible.
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Your subjective belief. Others disagree and per the first amendment the government has no right to tell someone they can't believe something is a sin. Which means the government would have no right to distinguish between a person claiming interracial marriage is a sin and someone claiming gay marriage is a sin according to their religious beliefs.


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roguenuke said:
Your subjective belief. Others disagree and per the first amendment the government has no right to tell someone they can't believe something is a sin. Which means the government would have no right to distinguish between a person claiming interracial marriage is a sin and someone claiming gay marriage is a sin according to their religious beliefs.


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:lamo...you need to read the bible, if you want to talk about it.
 
Master PO said:
its not mind, what is in the bible, the bible calls sin, is sin, you cant change that

you and the others know very little of christianity ....
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Which is your personal interpretation and beliefs on which parts of the Bible matter. I know plenty about the law and I know there are thousands, at least, varying forms and interpretations of the Bible which just make up recognized denominations of Christianity. This doesn't include personal beliefs.


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Master PO said:
i know this simple truth......Jesus said, i am the way the truth and the life.

one cannot be a Christian without believing in that
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you have ZERO power or authority to judge if somebody is a christian or not. ZERO LMAO
 
Master PO said:
:lamo impossible for you be a christian, one must believe in the way the truth and the life, without that you cannot be christian
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Not impossible. Just to note, I never claimed to be a Christian. I think Jesus as described in the Bible was a good man, but that's about it.


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roguenuke said:
Which is your personal interpretation and beliefs on which parts of the Bible matter. I know plenty about the law and I know there are thousands, at least, varying forms and interpretations of the Bible which just make up recognized denominations of Christianity. This doesn't include personal beliefs.


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:lamo....you already got slammed on unwritten law today, now you have been slammed on Christianity, because you know little about it, but try to engage in conversation concerning it..
 
Master PO said:
:lamo....you already got slammed on unwritten law today, now you have been slammed on Christianity, because you know little about it, but try to engage in conversation concerning it..
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You haven't "slammed" me on anything today. You have shown that you are very good at confusing your personal subjective beliefs with the law and attempt to consistently pass those subjective opinions as facts.


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roguenuke said:
Not impossible. Just to note, I never claimed to be a Christian. I think Jesus as described in the Bible was a good man, but that's about it.


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fine, but jesus teaches christian, to go to heaven you have to go through him.....if you even know what that means
 
Master PO said:
you have failed all day, and keep coming back for more
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When you've lost an argument, attack the opponent, pretending you won all along. That's seems to be a popular play.


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now we are over 900 posts and the facts still remain!!!


FACTS:
1.) The owners are by definition criminals, they choose to be criminals and choose to break the law
2.) There's no facts that support the claim the decision in the OP violates the state constitution
3.) Nobody in the OP was punished or fined for their beliefs or not making a cake
4.) based on this topic and the law, rights and rules concerning it Religions objections do not have to be PROVEN by biblical teachings

If anybody disagrees I challenge you to present one single fact that makes them not criminals and one single fact that shows the state constitution was violated, one single fact that shows the people in the op were fined for their "beliefs" or one single fact that shows religious beliefs must be proved by biblical teachings Thanks!

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Master PO said:
fine, but jesus teaches christian, to go to heaven you have to go through him.....if you even know what that means
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To others, to some Christians, it simply means you have to follow what his teachings were, not believe in a book written after his death or in his claimed divinity.


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roguenuke said:
When you've lost an argument, attack the opponent, pretending you won all along. That's seems to be a popular play.


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oh, ...didn't say i won to you, or destroyed you, [as another poster always does], i said you got slammed for being wrong and failed.
 
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