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How sexist the transgender bathroom is being discussed? I mean really, no one is the least concerned about a female bodied transgender male going into a men's bathroom, but many are nearly hysterical of male bodied transgender females using the female bathroom. So I guess a society we've determined that male bodied persons are degenerate assholes who will do anything to cop a look at women pulling up and down their panties. No wonder many men want a sex change.

Hmm.....
 
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How sexist the transgender bathroom is being discussed? I mean really, no one is the least concerned about a female bodied transgender male going into a men's bathroom, but many are nearly hysterical of male bodied transgender females using the female bathroom. So I guess a society we've determined that men are degenerate assholes who will do anything to cop a look at women pulling up and down their panties.

Hmm.....

I've certainly noticed how stupid this whole transgender bathroom issue is.
 
How sexist the transgender bathroom is being discussed? I mean really, no one is the least concerned about a female bodied transgender male going into a men's bathroom, but many are nearly hysterical of male bodied transgender females using the female bathroom. So I guess a society we've determined that men are degenerate assholes who will do anything to cop a look at women pulling up and down their panties.

Hmm.....

yup and they will be the same ones who argue against women at every other turn

paternalism at its best
 
How sexist the transgender bathroom is being discussed? I mean really, no one is the least concerned about a female bodied transgender male going into a men's bathroom, but many are nearly hysterical of male bodied transgender females using the female bathroom. So I guess a society we've determined that male bodied persons are degenerate assholes who will do anything to cop a look at women pulling up and down their panties. No wonder many men want a sex change.

Hmm.....

Yes, I've noticed that. It's hard not to notice.
 
How sexist the transgender bathroom is being discussed? I mean really, no one is the least concerned about a female bodied transgender male going into a men's bathroom, but many are nearly hysterical of male bodied transgender females using the female bathroom. So I guess a society we've determined that men are degenerate assholes who will do anything to cop a look at women pulling up and down their panties.

Hmm.....

Yup. Totally noticed this, commented on it here and there.

It's this weird combination of sexism and misplaced homophobia which I find so depressing I can't even deal with it. If people born male-bodied are so bad that they're comparable to rabid animals on an ethical level, why don't we either teach them to be better, or just lock them up? I can't believe so many men think this way about their own sex and yet somehow manage to have enormous egos anyway.

Yet, no problem with female-to-male trans people. Because born female-bodied people are basically the same as eunuchs or something. That's why we have to protect the ladies from those evil male-to-female trans folk. They're so fragile and hormonally dead that they don't even know what a sex drive is, obviously.
 
I've certainly noticed how stupid this whole transgender bathroom issue is.

yup and they will be the same ones who argue against women at every other turn

paternalism at its best

I've often wondered why men, especially white men, would want to become women, considering the major perks white men have just being men. Seems women are generally still not close to equal in workforce, religions, society, so why do they want to dissuade themselves from such benefits? I would understand wanting to be crossdresser on my own time, but to actually become and remain a woman? But, I guess if this is the way we "see" men, as basically pathetic, degenerate assholes... which y'know does kind of ring true for so many..... I'll never understand transgenderism from male to female, nonetheless I support their right to be who they perceive themselves to be.
 
I've often wondered why men, especially white men, would want to become women, considering the major perks white men have just being men. Seems women are generally still not close to equal in workforce, religions, society, so why do they want to dissuade themselves from such benefits? I would understand wanting to be crossdresser on my own time, but to actually become and remain a woman? But, I guess if this is the way we "see" men, as basically pathetic, degenerate assholes... which y'know does kind of ring true for so many..... I'll never understand transgenderism from male to female, nonetheless I support their right to be who they perceive themselves to be.

that is a good point, why would they want to "slum it"?

well maybe because as they embodied their former sex, they just thought equality was a given

SURRRRRRRRRRRRprise :mrgreen:
 
How sexist the transgender bathroom is being discussed? I mean really, no one is the least concerned about a female bodied transgender male going into a men's bathroom, but many are nearly hysterical of male bodied transgender females using the female bathroom. So I guess a society we've determined that male bodied persons are degenerate assholes who will do anything to cop a look at women pulling up and down their panties. No wonder many men want a sex change.

Hmm.....

That's not it at all. The very valid concern is that, sexual deviates will exploit this to gain access to women and little girls.
 
That's not it at all. The very valid concern is that, sexual deviates will exploit this to gain access to women and little girls.

But you're not at all worried about women using it to exploit men and boys, even though it's clear that can and does happen, though if the women are pretty enough seems the courts will determine that their crime isn't a heinous as an attractive man's.
 
But you're not at all worried about women using it to exploit men and boys, even though it's clear that can and does happen, though if the women are pretty enough seems the courts will determine that their crime isn't a heinous as an attractive man's.

...And on top of that, a non-passing trans person is so likely to be attacked the moment they show up anywhere that this seems like a pretty crappy "disguise." They'd be more under cover if they just walked around as a man.

Anyone who wants to rape someone obviously doesn't care about legality. Why would they do an entire campaign, subjecting themselves to violence, just so they could complete this elaborate ruse to make sure they can say they were legally allowed to be in the place where they committed their still-illegal rape? Virtually all rapes happen in places where they are legally allowed to be already.
 
How sexist the transgender bathroom is being discussed? I mean really, no one is the least concerned about a female bodied transgender male going into a men's bathroom, but many are nearly hysterical of male bodied transgender females using the female bathroom. So I guess a society we've determined that male bodied persons are degenerate assholes who will do anything to cop a look at women pulling up and down their panties. No wonder many men want a sex change.

Hmm.....


Um, my guess is that it wouldn't even be noticed in a mens room because we'd figure the guy was dropping a deuce. Now, if she tried to use the urinal that might make a splash!
 
:lol: You can probably make the case that due to FTM's testosterone levels being considerably high and their tendency to be body builders that they could be a danger to the average guy.
 
How sexist the transgender bathroom is being discussed? I mean really, no one is the least concerned about a female bodied transgender male going into a men's bathroom, but many are nearly hysterical of male bodied transgender females using the female bathroom. So I guess a society we've determined that male bodied persons are degenerate assholes who will do anything to cop a look at women pulling up and down their panties. No wonder many men want a sex change.

Hmm.....
Guys tend to be creepier than girls, so...
 
But you're not at all worried about women using it to exploit men and boys, even though it's clear that can and does happen, though if the women are pretty enough seems the courts will determine that their crime isn't a heinous as an attractive man's.

Of course it's a concern. That's not usually how these threads are presented. But if you present one as such, count me on board as being concerned. I don't want pervs of any sex having access to our children.
 
:lol: You can probably make the case that due to FTM's testosterone levels being considerably high and their tendency to be body builders that they could be a danger to the average guy.

In the men's forums, you guys are always saying you're being picked on by women. Not all successful force is physical violence.
 
Guys tend to be creepier than girls, so...

I'm just thinking that perhaps instead of picking on transgendered females, you guys need to do some real work on your gender reputation by not being creepier than girls and raising your boys to stop being creepy. Now that would be the better for society as a whole choice.
 
Um, my guess is that it wouldn't even be noticed in a mens room because we'd figure the guy was dropping a deuce. Now, if she tried to use the urinal that might make a splash!

All toilets in a women's bathroom are stalls, so who'd notice unless they themselves were peeping tomasinas?
 
All toilets in a women's bathroom are stalls, so who'd notice unless they themselves were peeping tomasinas?

Yeah, well, frankly there isn't anything that unusual about someone with a vagina using a womem's room.
 
Yeah, well, frankly there isn't anything that unusual about someone with a vagina using a womem's room.

Yeah, but unless someone is acting in an illegal fashion, peeping tomasina for example, a woman peeping, who would know that the person in the woman's stall has a penis? Since know one behaving legally will have the ability to know that, what difference does it make moreso than a man's bathroom where the stall would keep a transgender female from being noticed?
 
Youre right. Guys don't tend to be creepier. They are creepier

WRONG!

Human males, like every other male half of a bisexual species, have one primary function: to carry around genetic material until they are able to implant it in a female of the species. There is NOTHING creepy about acting the way any male in nature is supposed to.

The prime difference between Human males and the vast majority of males of other species is that we have the most complex sexual mating process on the planet. One of the disadvantages of being the most highly developed of intelligent species on this planet.

What's worse is that the Human male has the burden of gaining the interest of Human females; HE has to take the initiative and strut, preen, sweet-talk, display male prowess, in short do all the sexual dances necessary to gain and then maintain the female's interest.

Just because a female does not find that particular male of interest does not make his attempts "creepy." More like natural selection at work. :shrug:

In any case, social mores dictate how anyone is supposed to act in a public group setting. Part of this includes proper time and place, which public locker rooms, showers, and restrooms are not (unless someone is filming a porn movie).

No one with a true sense of decency would tolerate seeing a person act inappropriately or in an unwanted manner toward another person, and someone will almost always step up and act to stop such things.

I'm just thinking that perhaps instead of picking on transgendered females, you guys need to do some real work on your gender reputation by not being creepier than girls and raising your boys to stop being creepy. Now that would be the better for society as a whole choice.

All of the above applies to any situation. However, you are correct in that true transgendered have no more interest in members of the sex they wish to transform into than anyone else born of that sex...unless they are Lesbian, Gay, or bisexual. ;)
 
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Yeah, but unless someone is acting in an illegal fashion, peeping tomasina for example, a woman peeping, who would know that the person in the woman's stall has a penis? Since know one behaving legally will have the ability to know that, what difference does it make moreso than a man's bathroom where the stall would keep a transgender female from being noticed?

What guy closes the door when he's peeing? Hell, y'all are lucky if we raise the seat!
 
I'm just thinking that perhaps instead of picking on transgendered females, you guys need to do some real work on your gender reputation by not being creepier than girls and raising your boys to stop being creepy. Now that would be the better for society as a whole choice.

I don't think anybody raises their boys to be creepy. Boys just are creepier than girls.
 
What guy closes the door when he's peeing? Hell, y'all are lucky if we raise the seat!

Only assholes still stand when confronted with a toilet instead of a urinal. It's so inconsiderate for other bathroom users and those that have to clean the walls, the outside of the tub (in a home environment), etc. I assure a transgender female is trying to get away from that type of machismo and will be sitting.
 
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