The Truth About Sluts

The connotation of word 'slut' (male or female) strikes me as someone who doesn't observe the more socially acceptable level of discreteness about their sexual activities.

Wouldn't you think that a reserved person, someone not flaunting their sexual forays for public consumption, could have just as many sexual encounters and not be called a slut?

eohrnberger said:

The connotation of word 'slut' (male or female) strikes me as someone who doesn't observe the more socially acceptable level of discreteness about their sexual activities.

Wouldn't you think that a reserved person, someone not flaunting their sexual forays for public consumption, could have just as many sexual encounters and not be called a slut?

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You can have a completely secret life as a slut, and many many women do.

Celebrity said:

I wonder why when I talk about the matriarchy, I am supposedly the one who has problems, but when a feminist has problems it's all about blaming the patriarchy.

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Because there objectively isn't one. You are interpreting women having a right to their own lives as a "matriarchy," which tells me the problem is very much you.

eohrnberger said:

The connotation of word 'slut' (male or female) strikes me as someone who doesn't observe the more socially acceptable level of discreteness about their sexual activities.

Wouldn't you think that a reserved person, someone not flaunting their sexual forays for public consumption, could have just as many sexual encounters and not be called a slut?

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Not even that. I know a girl in high school who was *cough* rather blessed up top. She also had (natural) fire red ringlets going halfway down her back. The effect was, well, rather head-turning. She got called a slut constantly.

And yet she never had sex until she was in her 20's. She didn't even date much in high school.

She got called a slut simply for her genetics, regardless of her actual sexual activity, or complete lack thereof, as the case may be.

In reality, it seemed that the main people calling her a slut were entitled little boys she said no to, and jealous girls. "Slut" was code for, "I believe I'm entitled to what you have, and you won't give it to me, so I'm going to call you names for your audacity."

SmokeAndMirrors said:

Because there objectively isn't one. You are interpreting women having a right to their own lives as a "matriarchy," which tells me the problem is very much you.

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Nope, I'm interpreting women determining a course of action for men and ignoring men's rights to men's own lives as a "matriarchy."

I'm still not sure why you think the problem is me. When a woman has a problem it's "society's" fault. Case in point: slut shaming isn't because of sexual promiscuity, it's because society labels women. When a man has a problem, it's his fault and he better own up to it or he risks not being a man. I think the best example of this is how we separate the men from the boys based on whether or not they've slept with a women.

SmokeAndMirrors said:

Not even that. I know a girl in high school who was *cough* rather blessed up top. She also had (natural) fire red ringlets going halfway down her back. The effect was, well, rather head-turning. She got called a slut constantly.

And yet she never had sex until she was in her 20's. She didn't even date much in high school.

She got called a slut simply for her genetics, regardless of her actual sexual activity, or complete lack thereof, as the case may be.

In reality, it seemed that the main people calling her a slut were entitled little boys she said no to, and jealous girls. "Slut" was code for, "I believe I'm entitled to what you have, and you won't give it to me, so I'm going to call you names for your audacity."

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High School? Really? You are parading that out here as if it matters?

Obviously it does if she had great natural hair and nice boobs.

Celebrity said:

Nope, I'm interpreting women determining a course of action for men and ignoring men's rights to men's own lives as a "matriarchy."

I'm still not sure why you think the problem is me. When a woman has a problem it's "society's" fault. Case in point: slut shaming isn't because of sexual promiscuity, it's because society labels women. When a man has a problem, it's his fault and he better own up to it or he risks not being a man. I think the best example of this is how we separate the men from the boys based on whether or not they've slept with a women.

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I'm not sure how the hell that follows. In what way is you not being entitled to things from women ignoring your "rights"? You never had that right, bucko.

Well, it is society's fault. A woman doesn't inherently have a "problem" because someone else thinks she's a slut. As I said above, I've know virgins who got labelled as sluts. In what way does she have a "problem"?

Well, maybe you do that to men, but I don't, nor do most people of my gen that I associate with, anyway. So, it seems my gen is fixing a problem that what I assume is your gen for some reason chose not to.

Hawkeye10 said:

High School? Really? You are parading that out here as if it matters?

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Why doesn't it? That's where this crap starts, is it not?

The sorts of people who continue with this high school crap of judging women into adulthood started with it in, well, high school. On a maturity level, the people here discussing "the truth about sluts" are on pretty much the same level as those high schoolers, if not lower. At least it's normal for teenagers to be sort of shallow and tasteless. Much less forgiveable of an adult.

Really, I'm just discussing their intellectual peers.

RetiredUSN said:

Never liked the word "slut"

Let a girl do what she likes.

As a long time sailor, I know that guys are not much different.......probably worse.

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I recall the joke was that a slut was a gal who would sleep with everyone and a bitch was a girl who would sleep with everyone but you ;P

SmokeAndMirrors said:

Why doesn't it? That's where this crap starts, is it not?

The sorts of people who continue with this high school crap of judging women into adulthood started with it in, well, high school. On a maturity level, the people here discussing "the truth about sluts" are on pretty much the same level as those high schoolers, if not lower. At least it's normal for teenagers to be sort of shallow and tasteless. Much less forgiveable of an adult.

Really, I'm just discussing their intellectual peers.

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We all know people who peaked in High School, but are you seriously trying to tell me that these clods are a huge demographic?

SmokeAndMirrors said:

I'm not sure how the hell that follows. In what way is you not being entitled to things from women ignoring your "rights"? You never had that right, bucko.

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Sluts will be sluts. I haven't said I'm entitled to things from a women, yet women apparently believe they're entitled to be sluts. Do you think that I'm not entitled to slutty things, because I'm not a woman?

One thing I am not entitled to, but deserve is common courtesy. Patronizing me isn't doing that. I think a lot of women feel that they are a protected class and thus may patronize anyone. It might be time to check your privilege. Your gender is not fixing a problem that is perpetuated when they call members of their own gender sluts. By the way, I don't suspect you think the solution is to call men and women sluts equally. It would be better for you girls to just quit. But maybe if you did openly insult men, we would see that women aren't a protected class. Gee, I guess that's what happens when women insult, condemn and gossip about men exercising the right to say "have a good day" in a public area.



Here's an idea. Let's not go on implying that I treat women as slaves and that I'm entitled to things from women, when I haven't said either of those things.

Oh and let's say good morning to each other and can we just do away with the cancerous feminism? Modern day feminism overlaps with chauvinism all the time.

Celebrity said:

Sluts will be sluts. I haven't said I'm entitled to things from a women, yet women apparently believe they're entitled to be sluts. Do you think that I'm not entitled to slutty things, because I'm not a woman?

One thing I am not entitled to, but deserve is common courtesy. Patronizing me isn't doing that. I think a lot of women feel that they are a protected class and thus may patronize anyone. It might be time to check your privilege. Your gender is not fixing a problem that is perpetuated when they call members of their own gender sluts. By the way, I don't suspect you think the solution is to call men and women sluts equally. It would be better for you girls to just quit. But maybe if you did openly insult men, we would see that women aren't a protected class. Gee, I guess that's what happens when women insult, condemn and gossip about men exercising the right to say "have a good day" in a public area.

Here's an idea. Let's not go on implying that I treat women as slaves and that I'm entitled to things from women, when I haven't said either of those things.

Oh and let's say good morning to each other and can we just do away with the cancerous feminism? Modern day feminism overlaps with chauvinism all the time.

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This is way too boring for me to deal with. The first line alone is head-desk worthy.

I don't even know what the hell a slut is, dude. But even if I did, yes, women are entitled to be one. So are you if you want, I guess. People are entitled to live their own lives however they damn well please, and people who make it their constant mission to be judge and jury of people doing what they like are just sad.

Seriously, what the dick are you on about? What are all these words you're sticking in my mouth? Again, you don't get to decide I am whatever you want me to be. Do you ever actually talk to women, dude? You seem to think we're some sort of alien species taking the role of villain from a Disney movie. Get out more.

No, we can't do away with feminism, because evidently we still need it, since people like you still think you get to decide what women are "entitled" to be. So yes, the problem is you and people like you. You are why we need feminism, because despite all your denial and moaning, here you are implying women aren't "entitled" to live their own private lives as they see fit.

It's been a long week, so I'll let someone with a higher bull**** tolerance pick this one up.

SmokeAndMirrors said:

It's been a long week, so I'll let someone with a higher bull**** tolerance pick this one up.

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Apparently that's not enough for you because your snide commentary is somehow necessary. I don't know what you mean by implying women aren't entitled to live their own private lives, because I haven't said that. Living a private life does not involve going out of one's way to make men's lives intolerable. When you go out in public, people are entitled to interact with you. At minimum, that means looking at you and saying good morning. I would be hard pressed to find something wrong with what's beyond a greeting. Women who are intolerant of other people make life difficult for men and women via backbiting gossip and disrespectful treatment.

Do women have to have common courtesy? No. Do women need to be polite? No. I find that woman are quite often disrespectful and impolite, and claim that their behavior is justified because of something men have done or said. Get a grip. We're adults, we can take responsibility for our own actions.

I'm wondering if anyone in this thread thinks that we need feminism because women should be allowed to take advantage of men, or because men shouldn't be allowed to take advantage of women. There's nothing to stop a woman from being a slut, and in order to do so that most likely means engaging in promiscuous sexual behavior with men. Is the slut to blame, or is the patriarchy to blame when the woman is called a slut for being a slut? Let's be honest, accusing men of being promiscuous in order to justify promiscuous behavior is just downright irresponsible. Does anyone believe that there should be a policy of compensation in order, so that modern men are forced to pay for the errors of historical men by acquiescing to the sexually deviant behavior of any woman who chooses to make a personal decision? Can we acknowledge the simple fact that it's bull**** to pretend that running over men is more than just a personal decision, because it affects the lives of other people?

Anyway, the reason why women are labelled sluts and men are not is because women engage in low risk behavior when they have sex, while men engage in high risk behavior when they have sex. Women rarely risk being treated as "actors" if all they do is lie in bed like an inanimate object, however men rarely are treated as "acted upon" and are expected to do more of the work in order to attract women and during copulation. Women sit still and look pretty, men go out of their way to invest in women financially and to appease women socially by attending to her friends and family members. Sure, it's a stereotype, but women certainly haven't fixed it yet and men have no choice but to play along with it or remain single. Women can expect a net positive payoff from sexual intercourse, men can expect a net negative payoff from sexual intercourse. Women have to gain and men have to lose in order for sexual intimacy to be achieved in a heterosexual relationship.

Celebrity said:

By "share breathing space" do you mean completely and entirely subdue male sexual desire unless women are feeling keen, then allow women discuss among themselves and consult with the most senior matriarch about which man will be enslaved to her by which sequence of female monkeys? If men must share breathing space with women, that means women must also share breathing space with men. Female misandry is just as bad in America as male misogyny, and women do not advocate for men's rights nearly as much as men advocate for women's rights, either historically or presently. You gals are just slipping up on your game, or ignoring men until it's convenient for you.

The best sluts (in my opinion): rave sluts

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What makes you think they're sluts?

Celebrity said:

Women can expect a net positive payoff from sexual intercourse, men can expect a net negative payoff from sexual intercourse. Women have to gain and men have to lose in order for sexual intimacy to be achieved in a heterosexual relationship.

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Lol, you sound like a sad, sad man.

Nilly said:

What makes you think they're sluts?

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That's what the search results were for "rave sluts."

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Celebrity said:

That's what the search results were for "rave sluts."

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

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So you think they're sluts because the internet told you?

(then told me not to believe everything I read on the internet)?

Nilly said:

So you think they're sluts because the internet told you?

(then told me not to believe everything I read on the internet)?

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You think I think you think I think they're sluts?

I'm just posting an image that the internet returned when I queried a large group of images using Google search. I have no idea of their sexual promiscuity, so I don't know if they are sluts. If I knew someone was a slut I probably wouldn't go around telling the world about it.

Celebrity said:

You think I think you think I think they're sluts?

I'm just posting an image that the internet returned when I queried a large group of images using Google search. I have no idea of their sexual promiscuity, so I don't know if they are sluts. If I knew someone was a slut I probably wouldn't go around telling the world about it.

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So you don't think they're sluts?

Yet you post that they're your 'favorite type of slut'?

You're making zero sense.

Nilly said:

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So you don't think they're sluts?

Yet you post that they're your 'favorite type of slut'?

You're making zero sense.

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Rave sluts are my favorite type of sluts. I'm not saying that the girls in the picture are sluts, or if they are rave. I have no personal connection to the sluts pictured. There's your disclaimer. I guess I'm not arguing with you about whether or not those particular girls are sluts. You are asking me to choose whether I think they are sluts or I don't think they're sluts, yet it's unclear how that relates to this discussion. I don't need to decide whether or not Google images returned an accurate search result, though you are welcome to ignore a picture which you deem to not be related to the thread. I related that image to the thread by using keywords in a search engine. Go figure.

Celebrity said:

I'm not saying that the girls in the picture are sluts [...] I have no personal connection to the sluts pictured. [...] Go figure.

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You're a slimy one.

Nilly said:

You're a slimy one.

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I thought you'd like that. Anyway, I like sluts. I am not the best judge of whether or not young women whose pictures are on the internet are sluts, or are not sluts. But, then again, I guess it's really all subjective. I think part of the reason why men aren't called sluts is because men don't often refer to other men as sluts. That could be for a variety of reasons. It's not like a gentleman to call another gentleman a slut, it could incite violence, women don't want their men to be called sluts, etc.

Just because women call other women sluts doesn't mean that men should call other men sluts, men should call women sluts, or women should call men sluts. There are different reasons for why someone is called a slut, it could be something as simple as who their friends are. You might call a particular virgin in a group of virgins a slut (incorrectly) simply because the other virgins in that group were more prudent.

maquiscat said:

I think you may be on to something here, despite any tounge in cheek intent. The key phrase would be "nearly anyone". Being sexually active, and non-monogamous is not necessarily being a slut. Having standards and not sleeping with just anyone will be what disqualifies one from that label. And I see the label "slut" being applied to men men nowadays, as well.

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I think a slut is someone who is beyond just sexually promiscuous. A slut is a woman that cheats on a husband/boyfriend/partner (when in an agreed upon monogamous relationship) and/or knowingly has sex with someone who is in a monogamous relationship.

ttwtt78640 said:

Too many people seem to view sexual partners as personal property, much like cars. Most say that they would like to get hold of a good new one and keep it forever, but that is rare. The list of desired features often changes with time, there are usually budget constraints, dents and scratches accumulate and the used market is loaded with bargains (for buyers and sellers alike) . Multiple test drives are the norm, as are frequent trade ins, with leases and rentals also available.

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Then there are the total losses: flood damaged, rollovers and the otherwise beyond repair.

SDET said:

Then there are the total losses: flood damaged, rollovers and the otherwise beyond repair.

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Then there are people who treat sexual partners as insurance policies. Damn!:lamo