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Then What's Marriage For?

"choose well" is a lesson that we no longer teach kids.

We should.

No it isn't. There was plenty of problems caused by such stupid thinking that people don't make mistakes even in their relationships.
 
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No it isn't. There was plenty of problems caused by such stupid thinking that people don't make mistakes even in their relationships.

Mistakes happen. Fewer mistakes happen when the level of care is increased. Mistakes costing is not always a bad thing, and I think making a mistake in choosing a mate should carry a good dose of pain, to discourage the practice.
 
Mistakes happen. Fewer mistakes happen when the level of care is increased. Mistakes costing is not always a bad thing, and I think making a mistake in choosing a mate should carry a good dose of pain, to discourage the practice.

It carries a lot of pain for many people. Not sure why exactly you think it doesn't or why society should make it more painful for them than society does for most other mistakes.
 
I'm adopted. I know first hand that forcing my biological mother and father to remain married and to require them to live together would not have been a good environment in which to be raised.


Luckily my adoptive parents were wonderful people that took me in when times were bad. BTW - neither of my parents donated the sperm or the egg.


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I am sorry to hear that and sincerely wish that you could have been properly raised by your biological parents.
 
It carries a lot of pain for many people. Not sure why exactly you think it doesn't or why society should make it more painful for them than society does for most other mistakes.

For the sake of the kids. Marriage should be a lot harder to get into as well as a lot harder to get out of.
 
I am sorry to hear that and sincerely wish that you could have been properly raised by your biological parents.


Don't be sorry. My parents raised me in a loving and great house. Ya, we were blue collar, but I had a fine childhood.


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Married my highschool sweetheart 27 years ago. Raised 3 awesome kids together and I will hold her hand, put the seat down, and take out the trash til the day I die.

When my story becomes the norm in hetero relationships, we might be entitled to an opinion on SSM. But until that day comes we should probably shut our pie holes!
 
For the sake of the kids. Marriage should be a lot harder to get into as well as a lot harder to get out of.

The kids are not going to fare better with parents forced to live together because they made a mistake, or worse because some people think they made a mistake.
 
I am sorry to hear that and sincerely wish that you could have been properly raised by your biological parents.

How was he 'improperly' raised or raised in any negative way at all? Why would you wish he be raised by parents whom he "knows" would have provided a lesser environment? Do you wish he'd had a less happy and secure childhood?

Along the same lines, why did you never answer this? (Now in bold):

So you think that my adopted twin sisters would have been better off with their drug addict, whore mother and uknown father than with their adoptive parents (my folks)? Living in foster care when she was in jail, stuck in foster care til 18 since she died of AIDS while they were still minors?

That would have been better eh?


It's terrifying to think that there are more people in the US that believe (completely incorrectly and poisoningly harmful) like you and a few others do here on the forum. Because that is an indicator, from this small sampling, of how many there really are out there, 'in real life'


btw, I didnt see you respond to any of my other posts.....
 
Yes....ONCE. It's about the consummation, the sealing, of the marriage. No one is examining or quantifying their 'sex life.'

For some religions, even in the modern world, it still is. Now we don't see a lot of it in the more advanced countries, but it has not been eliminated from the world as a component of religious marriage.
 
For some religions, even in the modern world, it still is. Now we don't see a lot of it in the more advanced countries, but it has not been eliminated from the world as a component of religious marriage.

Oh really? What other countries continually judge by tradition or custom the sex that couples are having in their marriages? As long as they are having kids, not at all.
 
I don't necessarily disagree, so when do we end divorce and require under the law that both the mother and father (a) be married, and (b) most live together for a minimum of 18 years to raise the child?

We should!

Translation: who cares if this would create a hostile unstable environment that will increase the child(ren)'s odds of being abused?

Now Mr. I-have-all-the-social-answers, what should happen if a guy had a threesome with two women and both got pregnant? Who is he supposed to marry? Because I already know you are against polygyny.
 
Oh cry me a river. Children are being cheated out of a good childhood by selfish parents.

There you go with subjective values again. What you think might make a good childhood, a child might look back upon, and view it as terrible. Again, by your desires, you would force a child to stay with a set of parents who would be abusive towards, simply because they are the bio parents.
 
I am sorry to hear that and sincerely wish that you could have been properly raised by your biological parents.

That is the point we've been trying to make. Not all biological parents can, or in some cases can't together. Sometimes one parent is capable and the other isn't. While most of us here support that if you make a child you have responsibilities towards that child, it doesn't automatically make the combination of the two bio parents the best thing for the child.
 
That is the point we've been trying to make. Not all biological parents can, or in some cases can't together. Sometimes one parent is capable and the other isn't. While most of us here support that if you make a child you have responsibilities towards that child, it doesn't automatically make the combination of the two bio parents the best thing for the child.

There is no sure thing but death and taxes.

Ya know?
 
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