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How Dangerous Is Homosexuality To A Society?***W:2441***

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Good points but, this is a **** stirring thread.
 
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Dibbler said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_2qKNWP1j8

The negative health and societal consequences of the normalization of homosexuality discussed.
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No more dangerous than any other human interactions.

This is not "common sense," it is just one hater spouting bile. I turned it off after enduring it for about a minute.
 
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How dangerous is hate to a society?
Answer: Much more dangerous than any "queers", even if some of them are "not nice."

Homosexuality is not a choice, neither is it a disease to be cured. It's no more likely to spread diseases than promiscuity among heterosexuals. If we're going to beat the drum, let's beat it for the glorification of promiscuity that pervades modern TV.

And let's do it with someone who is credible, not a guy who has to hide behind big sunglasses while making a video.
 
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What an idiot. Got my laugh for the day.
 
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How Dangerous Is Homosexuality To A Society?
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it isn't.
 
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I liked his quip about "Backdoor Barry." Made me think of that photo of him on a sofa in a dorm at Occidental College. There is young President Limpwrist in a sort of fey posture, sitting closer to his Pakistani roommate than any regular guys would do, with a simpering little smile on his face.
 
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Okay, this guy is absolutely ridiculous - and a terrible speech writer to boot. If anyone's sex life is an active threat to society, it's mine, due to my preference for using nuclear launch codes for my safe words.
 
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Dibbler said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_2qKNWP1j8

The negative health and societal consequences of the normalization of homosexuality discussed.
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That community did enormous harm to societies around the world, when they spread HIV AIDS throughout the globe. They are still mildly responsible for health issues, but besides that, they are only colorful.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Homosexuality is not a choice, neither is it a disease to be cured.
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I see no reason to not treat homosexuality or desire it to exist. What purpose does it serve? I know there is theories out there, but I haven't seen any that are convincing.
 
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Henrin said:
I see no reason to not treat homosexuality or desire it to exist. What purpose does it serve? I know there is theories out there, but I haven't seen any that are convincing.
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Mr. Libertarian himself.

Here to show us the way.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Mr. Libertarian himself.

Here to show us the way.
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I fail to see what this has to do with libertarianism. What is lost if homosexuality is treated?
 
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Henrin said:
I see no reason to not treat homosexuality or desire it to exist. What purpose does it serve? I know there is theories out there, but I haven't seen any that are convincing.
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Why does it have to serve a purpose?

Even if, despite ALL evidence to the contrary, it was actually a "lifestyle choice" as some people seem to argue; what difference does that make? Unless you can prove a direct and substantial harm, then who are you or anyone else to inhibit their right to enjoy their life as they see fit?

However, it is NOT a choice. It reflects an innate characteristic of certain people which may be genetic, or hormonal, or who the eff knows, but in any case it simply IS. Deal with it personally in any way you wish, but it remains a fact of life.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Why does it have to serve a purpose?

Even if, despite ALL evidence to the contrary, it was actually a "lifestyle choice" as some people seem to argue; what difference does that make? Unless you can prove a direct and substantial harm, then who are you or anyone else to inhibit their right to enjoy their life as they see fit?

However, it is NOT a choice. It reflects an innate characteristic of certain people which may be genetic, or hormonal, or who the eff knows, but in any case it simply IS. Deal with it personally in any way you wish, but it remains a fact of life.
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Who said anything about inhibiting their right to enjoy their life as they see fit? Making a treatment available doesn't act upon anyone against their will. Hell, making a treatment available doesn't even act upon anyone. Why does something have to be harmful for society to desire to treat it or even for a treatment to be available? Is the majority of the stuff plastic surgeons do treating conditions that are harmful to someones health or well being? No, so why is this any different? As it stands there is no purpose to it and no reason that I can see to desire to keep it around.

I also find the notion that it isn't something to treat questionable at best. The biological functions of the body seem to suggest that it's not intended and should be treated.
 
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Henrin said:
I see no reason to not treat homosexuality or desire it to exist. What purpose does it serve? I know there is theories out there, but I haven't seen any that are convincing.
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I don't think you understand how evolution works.



I also don't think I'll waste my time responding to your other anti-gay bait "questions".....
 
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Henrin said:
Who said anything about inhibiting their right to enjoy their life as they see fit? Making a treatment available doesn't act upon anyone against their will. Hell, making a treatment available doesn't even act upon anyone. Why does something have to be harmful for society to desire to treat it or even for a treatment to be available? Is the majority of the stuff plastic surgeons do treating conditions that are harmful to someones health or well being? No, so why is this any different? As it stands there is no purpose to it and no reason that I can see to desire to keep it around.

I also find the notion that it isn't something to treat questionable at best. The biological functions of the body seem to suggest that it's not intended and should be treated.
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You answer your own question. If it is not harmful, then there is no reason for treatment.

Treatments of which you speak are not created for the benefit of the subject. They exist to answer the needs of people like you who THINK that the subjects have a problem, are suffering from a delusion, and need to be cured for their own good.

The subjects enter such treatment programs because they either feel compelled, or are actually coerced, by those who claim to love them but can't accept them for who and what they are.

Objections to the existence of such treatment programs are based on the same rationale which prohibits snake oil salesmen from practicing their businesses. They were selling you poison under the pretense of improving your physical or metal health.
 
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Mr Person said:
I don't think you understand how evolution works.



I also don't think I'll waste my time responding to your other anti-gay bait "questions".....
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I'm aware of the theories evolutionary scientists have about it. Maybe you can defend their theories instead of doing whatever you call that.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
You answer your own question. If it is not harmful, then there is no reason for treatment.

Treatments of which you speak are not created for the benefit of the subject. They exist to answer the needs of people like you who THINK that the subjects have a problem, are suffering from a delusion, and need to be cured for their own good.

The subjects enter such treatment programs because they either feel compelled, or are actually coerced, by those who claim to love them but can't accept them for who and what they are.

Objections to the existence of such treatment programs are based on the same rational the prohibits snake oil salesmen from practicing their businesses. They were selling you poison under the pretense of improving your physical or metal health.
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I didn't say anything about them suffering from a delusion. I ask that you not put words in my mouth or apply beliefs to me that I have never stated. I also didn't support any kind of treatment that exists today, but simply supported the notion that eliminating homosexuality would cause no negative consequences nor would a treatment lead to the elimination of anything that has a purpose.

I do however think that if your attractions are counter to everything that we know about biological function that it should be treated.
 
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There are thousands of animal species that practice homosexuality in the biosphere. To think we are separated from them, well we gotta thank De Cartes for that.
 
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Henrin said:
I see no reason to not treat homosexuality or desire it to exist. What purpose does it serve? I know there is theories out there, but I haven't seen any that are convincing.
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If there were no purpose, then evolution would have eliminated it.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
Mr. Libertarian himself.

Here to show us the way.
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yeah, do a search for user: "Libertarian" subject: "homosexuality" and you'll see all the proof you need of the libtard agenda
 
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Wonton sexual immorality isn't good doesn't matter who is doing it.
 
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I don't like it when they check out my fabulous ass.
 
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Henrin said:
Who said anything about inhibiting their right to enjoy their life as they see fit? Making a treatment available doesn't act upon anyone against their will. Hell, making a treatment available doesn't even act upon anyone. Why does something have to be harmful for society to desire to treat it or even for a treatment to be available? Is the majority of the stuff plastic surgeons do treating conditions that are harmful to someones health or well being? No, so why is this any different? As it stands there is no purpose to it and no reason that I can see to desire to keep it around.

I also find the notion that it isn't something to treat questionable at best. The biological functions of the body seem to suggest that it's not intended and should be treated.
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Treatments are for pathologies, and homosexuality is not pathological. They tried "treating" homosexuals all the way until 1979 when the APA finally admitted the scientific truth which is that it can't be cured because it's not an inherent abnormality. It's "deviant" in the sense of demographic statistics, but because there is nothing morally deviant about it, there is no reason for society to focus on a rehabilitation model. And as proven previously, it doesn't work.

We don't treat heterosexuals so why would we treat homosexuals. Also, despite what pop culture perceives, sexuality is not a polarity, but a spectrum. A lot of humans who exhibit homosexual behavior are not purely homosexual, as Kinsey expounded upon in his works. The majority of humans actually exhibit bisexual tendencies to some degree, especially at the onset of adolescence. It's the social culture of the individual which promotes or denies their explorations, not any inherent biological process.

Your argument about biological functions is easily debunked, but you know that already so I won't bother repeating those arguments. Whether or not you realize it, your "treatment" values are socioculturally motivated, but they are not based on medical reason. This is the primary reason why medical science should be making these determinations and not lay people.
 
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