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How Dangerous Is Homosexuality To A Society?***W:2441***

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roguenuke said:
Evidence that fewer of those chemicals develop in all cases of adoption compared to biological children, and that any disparity in the production of these chemicals is significant enough to cause issues in most such families.
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Many of the chemicals are produced during pregnancy and birth. I doubt its a coincidence that nature or God did this. THe liberal will be illiterate and anti science and so wish to deny evolution.
 
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James972 said:
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An average of about 225 people kill a parent every year in the United States (according to research by Kathleen M. Heide, a professor of criminology at the University of South Florida, Tampa). While the majority of Serial Killers are adoptees, the largest number of adopted killers appears to be Adoptees Who Kill Their Adopters and/or Adoptive Relatives. The total number of Adopted Killers is unknown, but appears to be an over-representation. The 300 adopted killers profiled, by category of killer type, is an attempt to explain how adoption can create a killer, so 300 are just the tip of the iceberg. Indexed.
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Actually, that is the statistic from above (I was mistaken). Only 16% of serial killers are adopted. That makes the majority of serial killers as having lived with at least one biological parent. So you are wrong. And that is definitely not evidence.
 
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James972 said:
they are the same act to god or nature this is why procreation and birth generates oxcitocin and other chemicals to make you fall in love with your child at birth.
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Neurobiology? Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Oxytocin is a neuro chemical that causes the uterus to contact and causes a woman to go into labor. But it's present in all humans without chemical deficiency. So all normal healthy people produce oxytocin, men obviously don't have a uterus yet they still produce oxytocin.

So if this is your sacred cow it just got gored.
 
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James972 said:
Many of the chemicals are produced during pregnancy and birth. I doubt its a coincidence that nature or God did this.
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Prove it. Prove that these cannot develop after. Especially since obviously the father is not attached to the child so then could not develop that bond during pregnancy. And any potential bond is possible in any way that a "father" develops such things in a planned adoption of a child, with a surrogate mother. This would especially be true if it is a lesbian couple who simply use sperm donation or IVF which gets one of them pregnant.
 
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James972 said:
you want evidence that oxyticin and other love or bonding chemicals exist?????????
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No, i want evidence that people who are not biological parents are deficient in it since that was your claim.

Don't play dumb
 
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roguenuke said:
Actually, that is the statistic from above (I was mistaken). Only 16% of serial killers are adopted. That makes the majority of serial killers as having lived with at least one biological parent. So you are wrong. And that is definitely not evidence.
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so you mean adopted kids are really better off than non adopted kids and all that evolution and science stuff is BS????
 
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James972 said:
so you mean adopted kids are really better off than non adopted kids and all that evolution and science stuff is BS????
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Not what I said at all. Children without sufficient biological parents however are better off being adopted by a loving couple, from an early age, than left to linger in the system or a bad home.

What is BS is your personal interpretation of the science to fit your biased view.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
No, i want evidence that people who are not biological parents are deficient in it since that was your claim.
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there might be 1000 books on it. Why not read up. One book is called Brain Sex. Evolution is so obvious now except to cretins and liberals that I didn't read all of them. Did you know a male lion will kill the offspring of the previous male who was head of the family so he will be sure he is raising his own off spring. This is called evolution. 1+1=2. There might be 10,000 examples of this nature. Did you know that man evolved???
 
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James972 said:
there might be 1000 books on it. Why not read up. One book is called Brain Sex. Evolution is so obvious now except to cretins and liberals that I didn't read all of them. Did you know a male lion will kill the offspring of the previous male who was head of the family so he will be sure he is raising his own off spring. This is called evolution. 1+1=2. There might be 10,000 examples of this nature. Did you know that man evolved???
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We are not lions. We aren't even other primates. We are different than that. We don't need to kill offspring to put a woman in heat because that isn't how sex works for us. So there is no need to kill off any rival offspring.
 
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roguenuke said:
Children without sufficient biological parents however are better off being adopted by a loving couple, from an early age, than left to linger in the system or a bad home.
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strawman when you have lost no one said they should "linger" now did they??????
 
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roguenuke said:
We are not lions. We aren't even other primates. We are different than that. We don't need to kill offspring to put a woman in heat because that isn't how sex works for us. So there is no need to kill off any rival offspring.
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try getting a man to pay child support for a child that is not his??? Ever heard of evolution or is the liberal still anti science and anti reason??
 
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James972 said:
try getting a man to pay child support for a child that is not his??? Ever heard of evolution or is the liberal still anti science and anti reason??
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Some men do pay child support for a child that isn't his. But besides that, you are greatly misinterpreting evolution here. We evolved beyond killing rival offspring. It isn't even highly common to do this in the animal kingdom. Again though we handle sex differently than most even mammal species, in that we have sex outside of "heat", ovulation cycles. So we don't need to kill off children or hurt them to increase the chance of fertilization, like lions do.
 
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James972 said:
strawman when you have lost no one said they should "linger" now did they??????
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What are you talking about? Your argument was an absurd representation of what I said and then you try to claim my response is a strawman. You need to go back and look at the conversation as well as finding out what the meaning of strawman is.
 
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roguenuke said:
Some men do pay child support for a child that isn't his. .
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so what????????????????????? 99.999 percent would rather raise their own kids. This is not coincidence but rather what they call evolution!! Ever heard of it or does liberalism prevent you accepting science and reason????
 
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roguenuke said:
What? We don't release nearly as many as other animal, mammal species. Not to mention that has absolutely nothing to do with the argument.
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The hormones released play a large part in the bonding process that you claimed is new to the humans. Btw, nothing about the science behind this excludes the possibly of multiple partners.
 
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James972 said:
there might be 1000 books on it. Why not read up.
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I have a masters in psychology. So I'm pretty well read on the subject. I still haven't heard about parents thay adopt are deficient in oxytocin.

One book is called Brain Sex. Evolution is so obvious now except to cretins and liberals that I didn't read all of them.
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If it's obvious than it will be easy to explain it. Proceed. Btw I'm a conservative libertarian so that shouldn't be a problem.

Did you know a male lion will kill the offspring of the previous male who was head of the family so he will be sure he is raising his own off spring. This is called evolution. 1+1=2. There might be 10,000 examples of this nature.
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I never supported lions adopting children.

I am not aware of the oxytocin production and reuptake in male lions. So I don't see any relevance or even meaning to this section of your post.

Did you know that man evolved???
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In the hypothalamus and posterior pituitary gland past lions? Of course, you were the one who brought up lion's behavior as if that has any relevance.

Get past 1+1=2 there are higher maths.
 
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roguenuke said:
Your argument was an absurd representation of what I said.
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you said loving parents were better than letting a child "linger" as if somone disagreed with that. Don't lie please.
 
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James972 said:
so what????????????????????? 99.999 percent would rather raise their own kids. This is not coincidence but rather what they call evolution!! Ever heard of it or does liberalism prevent you accepting science and reason????
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Do you have any evidence that a) that many men truly would rather raise their own children, and that b) that would be a good idea when it comes to not being able to properly bond with the mother who has no desire to have an intimate relationship with them? You are missing the point. The bonding being discussed is between two people who are in an intimate relationship with each other and bonding through sex in that relationship. There are other things that are needed here though. No matter how much sex two people have, if one has no interest in bonding, they won't. The bonding with children is after and is helped when the bonds between those raising them are already established. That has nothing to do with two people having a kid before they have a strong bond themselves and then not being able to bond properly after that fact.
 
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roguenuke said:
Do you have any evidence that a) that many men truly would rather raise their own children, .
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come to think of it the liberal is probably right!!! Most men would probably prefer to raise other men's kids and not their own!! Don't know how I missed that!! Live and learn. Liberals have so much to teach us!!!
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I think the classification of families you don't like as artificial is based completely on the idea that you don't feel they are "authentic." That is completely emotional.

I call bull****. Spouses bond, step children bond with step parents, adopted children bond with adoptive patents.

Or are you saying they can't because of lack of sanguinity?
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The bond between child and parent is an entirely different bond that calls into question entirely different reactions in the body to establish and strength it. I did not speak towards things like how the bond the between the father and child is established or how it is strengthened through things like hormone changes in the man. If you would like to talk about those matters I will, but I as of right now I'm not motivated to do so.
 
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Henrin said:
The hormones released play a large part in the bonding process that you claimed is new to the humans. Btw, nothing about the science behind this excludes the possibly of multiple partners.
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That isn't what I said was new to humans. Bonding in longterm, no additional partner, pairings is new to humans. Two biological parents raising their children to adulthood exclusively is fairly new to humans as the norm. And the hormones released are small in comparison to other things, such as compatibility.
 
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James972 said:
come to think of it the liberal is probably right!!! Most men would probably prefer to raise other men's kids and not their own!! Don't know how I missed that!! Live and learn. Liberals have so much to teach us!!!
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What are you talking about? You said that 99.999% of men would rather raise their own children. You haven't shown that this many men would like to raise anyone's kids, whether their own or someone else's. As for raising their own kids or someone else's, that is a matter of circumstances. Sorry that you don't recognize that people have compassion and care for others, even those not necessarily genetically related to them.
 
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Henrin said:
The bond between child and parent is an entirely different bond that calls into question entirely different reactions in the body to establish and strength it.
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Regardless of sanguinity?

I did not speak towards things like how the bond the between the father and child is established or how it is strengthened through things like hormone changes in the man. If you would like to talk about those matters I will, but I as of right now I'm not motivated to do so.
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So when you said "parent" what were you talking about? In what world is a father not a ****ing parent?

And you still haven't explained your nonsense about artificial bonds. And how and what causes those. Ate you just going to pretend you didn't say that ignorant ass ****?
 
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James972 said:
you said loving parents were better than letting a child "linger" as if somone disagreed with that. Don't lie please.
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After you tried to make up some crap about how adopted children are more likely to be serial killers.
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I call bull****. Spouses bond, step children bond with step parents, adopted children bond with adoptive patents.
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Great. so why not have the liberal state give children to parents as they see fit since everybody bonds with everybody anyway. The state should supercede evolution and science . This is what Hitler stalin and Mao thought. Is it coincidene that our liberals spied
for Stalin??
 
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