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This was inspired by the conversation I've had with another poster at another thread. She'd hoped of a time when we've desexualized the breasts and the buttocks, and that women can freely expose themselves in public. I suppose, if ever......that would also mean men, everyone, will be free to come and go as the way they were when they were born.


Supposing that time is here now, that nudity in public is acceptable.......what do you think will happen? What's the likely scenario?



I think, it wouldn't take long............and people will prefer to be dressed. Nudity wouldn't take off as others had envisioned it will.
The first year or two - as a novelty - maybe, it will be nudists galore. But it'll be just a fad. It will fizzle out.


This is a fun thread. Your imagination is the limit as to what could possibly happen if we're all free to be nude in public.
 
tosca1 said:
This was inspired by the conversation I've had with another poster at another thread. She'd hoped of a time when we've desexualized the breasts and the buttocks, and that women can freely expose themselves in public. I suppose, if ever......that would also mean men, everyone, will be free to come and go as the way they were when they were born.


Supposing that time is here now, that nudity in public is acceptable.......what do you think will happen? What's the likely scenario?



I think, it wouldn't take long............and people will prefer to be dressed. Nudity wouldn't take off as others had envisioned it will.
The first year or two - as a novelty - maybe, it will be nudists galore. But it'll be just a fad. It will fizzle out.


This is a fun thread. Your imagination is the limit as to what could possibly happen if we're all free to be nude in public.
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Not necessarily. Lots of cultures are partly or almost totally nude most of the time. Even in some European countries, casual nudity isn't uncommon, or sequestered to private spaces -- though not as common as it is in some parts of the world.

Since you said "acceptable," not just "legal," I think the amount it would stick would depend more on climate than anything. I mean, I'd still wear clothes in the winter around here, no matter how acceptable it was not to do so, because I have a desire not to be cold.

Wearing something on the back, given how much sitting we do, also seems like a thing most people would probably do for practical reasons, in our culture.

There's nothing "novel" about nudity, when a given culture finds it acceptable. It's just nudity. And I don't see why the "novelty" wearing off would make people want to spend extra time getting dressed, if society and climate didn't mandate that they do so, unless they just really like fashion. Not dressing is easier.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Not necessarily. Lots of cultures are partly or almost totally nude most of the time. Even in some European countries, casual nudity isn't uncommon, or sequestered to private spaces -- though not as common as it is in some parts of the world.

Since you said "acceptable," not just "legal," I think the amount it would stick would depend more on climate than anything. I mean, I'd still wear clothes in the winter around here, no matter how acceptable it was not to do so, because I have a desire not to be cold.

Wearing something on the back, given how much sitting we do, also seems like a thing most people would probably do for practical reasons, in our culture.

There's nothing "novel" about nudity, when a given culture finds it acceptable. It's just nudity. And I don't see why the "novelty" wearing off would make people want to spend extra time getting dressed, if society and climate didn't mandate that they do so, unless they just really like fashion. Not dressing is easier.
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I didn't know that's happening in some European countries already. I thought they have nudist colonies.

What European countries have nude people in public - like I mean, on the streets, malls, etc?
 
tosca1 said:
I didn't know that's happening in some European countries already. I thought they have nudist colonies.

What European countries have nude people in public - like I mean, on the streets, malls, etc?
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In some countries, lots of parks, beaches, etc are clothing optional. Sometimes locker rooms are mixed sex.

It's not limited to nudist clubs the way it is in the US, and to a large extent in the UK as well. They're quite common, and in some countries practically all beaches and parks are that way.
 
Women naturally have vaginal discharge, therefore......we're talking health and sanitation issues here.

If common colds is heavily passed around from using grocery carts, imagine STD and other infections. Children are highly at risk too, since they touch anything and tend to put their hands to their mouth.




Vaginal discharge serves an important housekeeping function in the female reproductive system. Fluid made by glands inside the vagina and cervix carries away dead cells and bacteria. This keeps the vagina clean and helps prevent infection.

Most of the time, vaginal discharge is perfectly normal. The amount can vary, as can odor and hue (its color can range from clear to a milky white-ish), depending on the time in your menstrual cycle. For example, there will be more discharge if you are ovulating, breastfeeding, or are sexually aroused. The smell may be different if you are pregnant or you haven't been diligent about your personal hygiene.


Vaginal Discharge - Causes, Types, Diagnosis and Treatment of Vaginal Disharge - from WebMD
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
In some countries, lots of parks, beaches, etc are clothing optional. Sometimes locker rooms are mixed sex.

It's not limited to nudist clubs the way it is in the US, and to a large extent in the UK as well. They're quite common, and in some countries practically all beaches and parks are that way.
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Are there any European countries that have nude people walking on the streets?
 
tosca1 said:
Women naturally have vaginal discharge, therefore......we're talking health and sanitation issues here. If common colds is heavily passed around from using grocery carts, imagine STD and other infections.


Vaginal discharge serves an important housekeeping function in the female reproductive system. Fluid made by glands inside the vagina and cervix carries away dead cells and bacteria. This keeps the vagina clean and helps prevent infection.

Most of the time, vaginal discharge is perfectly normal. The amount can vary, as can odor and hue (its color can range from clear to a milky white-ish), depending on the time in your menstrual cycle. For example, there will be more discharge if you are ovulating, breastfeeding, or are sexually aroused. The smell may be different if you are pregnant or you haven't been diligent about your personal hygiene.


Vaginal Discharge - Causes, Types, Diagnosis and Treatment of Vaginal Disharge - from WebMD
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So does the nose.

There are no STD's that are easily passed without body contact. Those carried in fluids die quickly when exposed to air.

There is still a sanitation issue in the sense that people, of either sex, are expelling fluid constantly from basically everywhere in the form of sweat, and more so from the genitals of both sexes. I don't think it would be unreasonable to require some kind of bottoms for both sexes on those grounds.

It's not a huge disease risk I don't think, but it is certainly a cleanliness issue. Same reason most businesses require shoes -- the feet sweat more than almost anything.
 
tosca1 said:
Are there any European countries that have nude people walking on the streets?
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I believe there are some where it's legal for either sex to be topless anywhere, but it's not especially common.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
In some countries, lots of parks, beaches, etc are clothing optional. Sometimes locker rooms are mixed sex.

It's not limited to nudist clubs the way it is in the US, and to a large extent in the UK as well. They're quite common, and in some countries practically all beaches and parks are that way.
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I did a quick google in Europe, and nudity isn't as free as what we're hypothesizing in our scenario. What nudes you see in European streets are not the everyday scenario - they're either protesting, or involved in an event that promotes nudity.

There's only handful in most cases, therefore it's not taking off as what others expect.

Surprisingly, it's more cumbersome to be nude, actually....imho.
 
tosca1 said:
I did a quick google in Europe, and nudity isn't as free as what we're hypothesizing in our scenario. What nudes you see in European streets are not the everyday scenario - they're either protesting, or involved in an event that promotes nudity.
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I didn't say anything about streets. So... no, that has nothing to do with what I said.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
I believe there are some where it's legal for either sex to be topless anywhere, but it's not especially common.
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It's a fad thing. And it's not gaining traction.

You'd think that it would've been rampant in Europe if it's acceptable now.....
 
tosca1 said:
It's a fad thing. And it's not gaining traction.

You'd think that it would've been rampant in Europe if it's acceptable now.....
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Not after hundreds of years of ultra-prudishness. Change doesn't happen overnight.

Like I said, there are other parts of the world where people are partly or totally nude pretty much all the time, and have been for millenia.
 
tosca1 said:
This was inspired by the conversation I've had with another poster at another thread. She'd hoped of a time when we've desexualized the breasts and the buttocks, and that women can freely expose themselves in public. I suppose, if ever......that would also mean men, everyone, will be free to come and go as the way they were when they were born.


Supposing that time is here now, that nudity in public is acceptable.......what do you think will happen? What's the likely scenario?



I think, it wouldn't take long............and people will prefer to be dressed. Nudity wouldn't take off as others had envisioned it will.
The first year or two - as a novelty - maybe, it will be nudists galore. But it'll be just a fad. It will fizzle out.


This is a fun thread. Your imagination is the limit as to what could possibly happen if we're all free to be nude in public.
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You might enjoy going to The Burning Man celebration.

All you need to do is show your naked butts to get in.
 
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tosca1 said:
This was inspired by the conversation I've had with another poster at another thread. She'd hoped of a time when we've desexualized the breasts and the buttocks, and that women can freely expose themselves in public. I suppose, if ever......that would also mean men, everyone, will be free to come and go as the way they were when they were born.

Supposing that time is here now, that nudity in public is acceptable.......what do you think will happen? What's the likely scenario?

I think, it wouldn't take long............and people will prefer to be dressed. Nudity wouldn't take off as others had envisioned it will.
The first year or two - as a novelty - maybe, it will be nudists galore. But it'll be just a fad. It will fizzle out.

This is a fun thread. Your imagination is the limit as to what could possibly happen if we're all free to be nude in public.
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The scenario you have put forth does suggest the novelty aspect, but I suspect it would end with pockets that adopted the practice with plenty of others that quickly discarded the fad. It may even come down to sister evolutions in sexual norms, but not near enough to turn the fad into long term adoption of public nudity.
 
tosca1 said:
This was inspired by the conversation I've had with another poster at another thread. She'd hoped of a time when we've desexualized the breasts and the buttocks, and that women can freely expose themselves in public. I suppose, if ever......that would also mean men, everyone, will be free to come and go as the way they were when they were born.


Supposing that time is here now, that nudity in public is acceptable.......what do you think will happen? What's the likely scenario?



I think, it wouldn't take long............and people will prefer to be dressed. Nudity wouldn't take off as others had envisioned it will.
The first year or two - as a novelty - maybe, it will be nudists galore. But it'll be just a fad. It will fizzle out.


This is a fun thread. Your imagination is the limit as to what could possibly happen if we're all free to be nude in public.
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So you are not afraid to show your coochie then ??
 
OrphanSlug said:
The scenario you have put forth does suggest the novelty aspect, but I suspect it would end with pockets that adopted the practice with plenty of others that quickly discarded the fad. It may even come down to sister evolutions in sexual norms, but not near enough to turn the fad into long term adoption of public nudity.
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They already have Naked And Afraid on tv.

You are butt naked with a member of the opposite gender.

You have to survive without getting sick.

You need water every 2 days and food within 21.

Like a divining rod my one eyed willy would be pointing the way.

:D
 
Riveroaks said:
They already have Naked And Afraid on tv.

You are butt naked with a member of the opposite gender.

You have to survive without getting sick.

You need water every 2 days and food within 21.

Like a divining rod my one eyed willy would be pointing the way.

:D
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In context though, we are talking about the difference of "forced survival" with two nude people with casual interaction on a social level without those pressures. Honestly, one has nothing to do with the other in a social acceptance sense, that is proven by what you see on TV for that show is still production where you do not see all that those participants (contestants, whatever) do.
 
OrphanSlug said:
In context though, we are talking about the difference of "forced survival" with two nude people with casual interaction on a social level without those pressures. Honestly, one has nothing to do with the other in a social acceptance sense, that is proven by what you see on TV for that show is still production where you do not see all that those participants (contestants, whatever) do.
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Casual -- as in nudist colony ??

Yes, these are everywhere.

There are a bunch around Santa Cruz California.

I think Tosca is itching for a date to one.
 
What would wear off with time is the unwarranted arousal that the sight of a bare female butt or breast creates in the sexually more hung up prudes. The arousal of males requiring no further definition, the indignation of the odd female (presuming heterosexuality to reign) in the manner that jealousy and envy would find new fields.

Where some may fear or hope that sexuality in general would suffer decline, nudists progenitating as normally as others defies that prognosis.

Overall cases of rape are less numerous among nudists and on a beach, park etc. and where nudism is either allowed outright or at least tolerated, one doesn't have any notable number of males running around with perpetual erections either (even where the fantasy of that possibility might appeal to many:mrgreen:).

The forbidden fruit, here elevated to its seductive status by purityrannical prudishness, will lose its attraction pretty fast. Faster that is than practical reasons such as cold or sunburn would make us cover up where sensible.

And cars, as one example, might be sold on their merit again rather than by draping some half clad bimbo over their hoods :2razz:
 
Riveroaks said:
Casual -- as in nudist colony ??

Yes, these are everywhere.

There are a bunch around Santa Cruz California.
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That was the scenario put forth by the OP, I was just trying to answer within those confines.
 
tosca1 said:
.that would also mean men, everyone, will be free to come and go as the way they were when they were born.






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Well, I was born hairless and had a tiny little penis.

I would be rather embarrassed if I were to parade about in that particular state.
 
The people in the Northern latitudes would sure suffer during the colder months.
 
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