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ISIL/DAESH: All Female Battalions and Sex Slavery, All in One

Yeah, no different from Christians or Orthodox Jews. Irrelevant IMO.

Yeah... See, this is actually a pretty good example of why I'm a bit hesitant to agree too quickly whenever Feminists, or the Left in general, wants to start waxing all high and mighty on the universal "oppression" of Muslim women. Roughly half of you secretly (or not so secretly) harbor a lot of the same sentiments concerning Christian stay at home moms, or basically anyone else, for that matter, who's not guzzling your particular brand of ideological "kool-aid" like sacred water.

As the son of such a woman myself, I can rather plainly tell you that this is not always the case. You really have to make a certain degree of allowance for "cultural relativism" here.

A Hell of a lot of Muslim women are actually pretty happy with their ultra-conservative lifestyles, believe it or not. They do often resent the manner in which Western women constantly pity and talk down to them over it as well. Now, some of them are actually making that known through their allegiance to the Jihadi movement.

Is that right? No, not really. I certainly won't deny that that there are a lot of problems regarding Islamic culture's treatment of women either (or human beings in general). However, the fact of the matter remains that thinking of all of these women as if they were unwitting "slaves," being forced into a certain way of life by men, is simply inaccurate. It is a caricaturish misrepresentation of a sociocultural truth which is ultimately far more complicated.

And extremists dont ever seem to have problems reaarranging their beliefs on behalf of expediency or the ultimate success of their goals.

Well, again, ISIS is the first Jihadist group to have actually done so on this particular issue, as far as anyone's aware. They actually seem to be encouraging women to take greater agency in enforcing Islamic law.

As I said before, I simply find that fascinating. There's a certain degree of thought, and even "evolution," at play here, which differentiates ISIS from more run of the mill extremist groups.
 
Yeah... See, this is actually a pretty good example of why I'm a bit hesitant to agree too quickly whenever Feminists, or the Left in general, wants to start waxing all high and mighty on the universal "oppression" of Muslim women. Roughly half of you secretly (or not so secretly) harbor a lot of the same sentiments concerning Christian stay at home moms, or basically anyone else, for that matter, who's not guzzling your particular brand of ideological "kool-aid" like sacred water.

As the son of such a woman myself, I can rather plainly tell you that this is not always the case. You really have to make a certain degree of allowance for "cultural relativism" here.

A Hell of a lot of Muslim women are actually pretty happy with their ultra-conservative lifestyles, believe it or not. They do often resent the manner in which Western women constantly pity and talk down to them over it as well. Now, some of them are actually making that known through their allegiance to the Jihadi movement.

Is that right? No, not really. I certainly won't deny that that there are a lot of problems regarding Islamic culture's treatment of women either (or human beings in general). However, the fact of the matter remains that thinking of all of these women as if they were unwitting "slaves," being forced into a certain way of life by men, is simply inaccurate. It is a caricaturish misrepresentation of a sociocultural truth which is ultimately far more complicated.



Well, again, ISIS is the first Jihadist group to have actually done so on this particular issue, as far as anyone's aware. They actually seem to be encouraging women to take greater agency in enforcing Islamic law.

As I said before, I simply find that fascinating. There's a certain degree of thought, and even "evolution," at play here, which differentiates ISIS from more run of the mill extremist groups.

That's alot of assumptions accorded to me. Most of it irrelevant ASFAIK and certainly doesnt prove me wrong.

All I'd say it I 100% support and respect any woman or man that "chooses" to stay home and care for family and I highly value that.
 
Exactly...there is no real parity...women are still completely subject to men's laws and subordinate. They are just being 'used more efficiently and expediently.'

That's alot of assumptions accorded to me. Most of it irrelevant ASFAIK and certainly doesnt prove me wrong.

All I'd say it I 100% support and respect any woman or man that "chooses" to stay home and care for family and I highly value that.

Well, when you're going to make two statements like these one right after the other...

Exactly...there is no real parity...women are still completely subject to men's laws and subordinate. They are just being 'used more efficiently and expediently.'

Yeah, no different from Christians or Orthodox Jews.

Certain "assumptions" are going to tend to spring to mind. :shrug:
 
Well, when you're going to make two statements like these one right after the other...




Certain "assumptions" are going to tend to spring to mind. :shrug:

And truths
 
And truths

Like the following.

Yeah... See, this is actually a pretty good example of why I'm a bit hesitant to agree too quickly whenever Feminists, or the Left in general, wants to start waxing all high and mighty on the universal "oppression" of Muslim women. Roughly half of you secretly (or not so secretly) harbor a lot of the same sentiments concerning Christian stay at home moms, or basically anyone else, for that matter, who's not guzzling your particular brand of ideological "kool-aid" like sacred water.

As the son of such a woman myself, I can rather plainly tell you that this is not always the case. You really have to make a certain degree of allowance for "cultural relativism" here.

A Hell of a lot of Muslim women are actually pretty happy with their ultra-conservative lifestyles, believe it or not. They do often resent the manner in which Western women constantly pity and talk down to them over it as well. Now, some of them are actually making that known through their allegiance to the Jihadi movement.

Is that right? No, not really. I certainly won't deny that that there are a lot of problems regarding Islamic culture's treatment of women either (or human beings in general). However, the fact of the matter remains that thinking of all of these women as if they were unwitting "slaves," being forced into a certain way of life by men, is simply inaccurate. It is a caricaturish misrepresentation of a sociocultural truth which is ultimately far more complicated.
 
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