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At Iowa Republican event he hosts, Colorado Pastor Swanson discusses executing gays

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"....Kevin Swanson, the Drudge Report headline who morphed into a Colorado pastor, is a homophobe in the truest sense of the word. He’s actually afraid of gay people! Like, this guy is afraid of gay people in the same way many gay people are afraid of the inevitable cancellation of RuPaul’s Drag Race.

And, as upsetting as it is to know there are people who think the gays are going to destroy the world, watching him sashay across the stage (the same stage he shared with Bobby Jindal and Mike Huckabee) while going on a deliriously incomprehensible rant is sort of incredible. It’s like the homophobic version of Larry David’s “Like flaming globes!!!” monologue from Seinfeld...."



... though he argues the Bible calls for it, he does not advocate the death penalty for gays, suggesting that they need time to repent. He then introduces Huckabee, Cruz and Jindal, none of whom distance themselves from Swanson's rant.

This guy ran the Colorado Home Educators group for years. I heard him speak numerous times at CHEC events. Though I never liked his politics, I now have a sense of just how wack-a-doo he really is.... and given these Republicans stood at his conference and did not refute his words, we know how wack-a-doo they are too. Hard to believe that Christians can espouse such hate....

Wow!
 
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nothing in the article matches the headline to the post. i looked up the video in question and the guy only referenced Romans 1:26-32
 
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In his defense, he's right. His holy book tells him pretty directly to commit violence against homosexuals and other sinners. Christianity is the religion of peace, right?
 
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Crovax said:
nothing in the article matches the headline to the post. i looked up the video in question and the guy only referenced Romans 1:26-32
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The first sentence out of his mouth in the video is quoting Leviticus saying that homosexuals deserve the death penalty. He goes on to quote your Romans citation as saying that gays deserve death. There's no ambiguity. He makes himself very clear.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
In his defense, he's right. His holy book tells him pretty directly to commit violence against homosexuals and other sinners. Christianity is the religion of peace, right?
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Yeah but the book he relies on, Leviticus, also tells him to do a bunch of other stuff that he ignores.
The other book, Romans, is some letter the old sinner Paul wrote to other sinners.
 
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Grand Mal said:
The first sentence out of his mouth in the video is quoting Leviticus saying that homosexuals deserve the death penalty. He goes on to quote your Romans citation as saying that gays deserve death. There's no ambiguity. He makes himself very clear.
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that video was not in the op when I made my post and the other video I looked up started about half way into the video in the op.
 
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Crovax said:
that video was not in the op when I made my post and the other video I looked up started about half way into the video in the edited op.
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Ah.
The vid was added after you posted your reply? Probably just a mix-up.
 
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Wow.

I will never understand why anyone cares so much about what other people do in their private lives. I will also never understand the extreme mental gymnastics required to make so many excuses for why your book has such dramatically inferior morality to yourself.

Sometimes I wish sexuality was a choice so I could become gay just to annoy these people.
 
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Maybe folks should start watching @ 01:07 as he clearly indicates that he does not advocate for our civil leaders to do it today.

This thread is much ado about nothing.
 
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Excon said:
Maybe folks should start watching @ 01:07 as he clearly indicates that he does not advocate for our civil leaders to do it today.

This threads is much ado about nothing.
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Nothing in the title, the quotes from the article, or the OP's comments says that he does. It's still ****ing insane that this is even brought up as something legitimate to discuss.
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
Nothing in the title, the quotes from the article, or the OP's comments says that he does. It's still ****ing insane that this is even brought up as something legitimate to discuss.
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As I said.

This thread is much ado about nothing. ​
 
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Excon said:
Maybe folks should start watching @ 01:07 as he clearly indicates that he does not advocate for our civil leaders to do it today.

This thread is much ado about nothing.
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.... as I pointed out, he did not ADVOCATE for execution, he discussed it. His argument against executing gays was that we need to give them time to repent. Sorry, but suggesting the only reason that we should not execute gays is so they have time to repent is NOT nothing. That is a bit of an ISIS philosophy, is it not: repent or die?

Even if you do not buy that, then please suggest to the rest of us what part of his rant is an illustration of Christian love and compassion. You know as well as I, this video belongs in the Christians Behaving Badly collection.
 
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upsideguy said:
.... as I pointed out, he did not ADVOCATE for execution, he discussed it.
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And? That is what the O.T. calls for, does it not?


upsideguy said:
His argument against executing gays was that we need to give them time to repent.
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iLOL
Sounds like a compassionate and christian thing to do.
Or maybe it is that you simply do not understand that being concerned for their soul and giving them that time to repent is a compassionate and christian thing?

I can't believe that you do not recognize that giving time for a second chance is a compassionate and loving thing to do.


upsideguy said:
Sorry, but suggesting the only reason that we should not execute gays is so they have time to repent is NOT nothing. That is a bit of an ISIS philosophy, is it not: repent or die?
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iLOL
While all such religions have some comparisons, nothing Christianity as a whole does presently is comparable to what ISIS does in killing now.


upsideguy said:
You know as well as I, this video belongs in the Christians Behaving Badly collection.
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No it doesn't.
This thread is much ado about nothing.
 
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This is the same guy who would cover himself in cow-dung if a family member was gay!
 
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SmokeAndMirrors said:
Wow.

I will never understand why anyone cares so much about what other people do in their private lives. I will also never understand the extreme mental gymnastics required to make so many excuses for why your book has such dramatically inferior morality to yourself.
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I understand it, listen to the way he preaches look at his body language. he is a phony, He says what people want to hear. It is almost like watching a soap opera, I literally laughed out loud when that assclown fell to his knees with that phony plea "America needs to repent!" These Howard Stern preachers don't know how much damage they are doing to Christianity.
 
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upsideguy said:
.... as I pointed out, he did not ADVOCATE for execution, he discussed it. His argument against executing gays was that we need to give them time to repent. Sorry, but suggesting the only reason that we should not execute gays is so they have time to repent is NOT nothing. That is a bit of an ISIS philosophy, is it not: repent or die?
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These people would be ISIS if we let them

Even if you do not buy that, then please suggest to the rest of us what part of his rant is an illustration of Christian love and compassion. You know as well as I, this video belongs in the Christians Behaving Badly collection.
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It isn't about love and Christ for these folks I think they believe if they continually thrust a bible or a bible like book into the air and pretend they are doing something good, that their god will show them favor, you know much like militant Islam but scared.
 
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Grand Mal said:
Yeah but the book he relies on, Leviticus, also tells him to do a bunch of other stuff that he ignores.
The other book, Romans, is some letter the old sinner Paul wrote to other sinners.
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That's why people don't generally accuse christians of being consistent.
 
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Excon said:
And? That is what the O.T. calls for, does it not?


iLOL
Sounds like a compassionate and christian thing to do.
Or maybe it is that you simply do not understand that being concerned for their soul and giving them that time to repent is a compassionate and christian thing?

I can't believe that you do not recognize that giving time for a second chance is a compassionate and loving thing to do.


iLOL
While all such religions have some comparisons, nothing Christianity as a whole does presently is comparable to what ISIS does in killing now.


No it doesn't.
This thread is much ado about nothing.
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I think you are missing the point. My outrage is not that he advocates sparing the life of a gay in favor of time for repentance, but that he takes seriously the option of killing them for being gay.

May I point out that there really isn't much difference, from a biblical standpoint between being gay and being an adulterer AND anyone that has remarried after divorce is considered an adulterer. Therefore, what if Swanson was on a tirade that we should not kill all people that have been married more than once, to give them time to repent?

I don't know about you, but I think most people would think the proposition that you should even discuss the stoning of divorcees that remarry a bit absurd, even if you come to the conclusion that you should not because you want them to repent.

BTW..... I, in fact, my argument against the death penalty is one that says "who am I to deny the murderer the opportunity to repent"... I firmly believer there are more people destined for the Kingdom in the average prison than there are in the average church.
 
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makes me wonder how come we focus the military on combating ISIS when we have such barbarism right in the midwest
 
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upsideguy said:
"....Kevin Swanson, the Drudge Report headline who morphed into a Colorado pastor, is a homophobe in the truest sense of the word. He’s actually afraid of gay people! Like, this guy is afraid of gay people in the same way many gay people are afraid of the inevitable cancellation of RuPaul’s Drag Race.

And, as upsetting as it is to know there are people who think the gays are going to destroy the world, watching him sashay across the stage (the same stage he shared with Bobby Jindal and Mike Huckabee) while going on a deliriously incomprehensible rant is sort of incredible. It’s like the homophobic version of Larry David’s “Like flaming globes!!!” monologue from Seinfeld...."



... though he argues the Bible calls for it, he does not advocate the death penalty for gays, suggesting that they need time to repent. He then introduces Huckabee, Cruz and Jindal, none of whom distance themselves from Swanson's rant.

This guy ran the Colorado Home Educators group for years. I heard him speak numerous times at CHEC events. Though I never liked his politics, I now have a sense of just how wack-a-doo he really is.... and given these Republicans stood at his conference and did not refute his words, we know how wack-a-doo they are too. Hard to believe that Christians can espouse such hate....

Wow!
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Everything he said seems quite reasonable to me. While I do advocate the death penalty as an option for sodomy, it's not unreasonable to say it shouldn't be a capital crime.
 
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upsideguy said:
I think you are missing the point. My outrage is not that he advocates sparing the life of a gay in favor of time for repentance, but that he takes seriously the option of killing them for being gay.

May I point out that there really isn't much difference, from a biblical standpoint between being gay and being an adulterer AND anyone that has remarried after divorce is considered an adulterer. Therefore, what if Swanson was on a tirade that we should not kill all people that have been married more than once, to give them time to repent?
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You don't even have to remarry, you don't even have to touch.

Matthew chapter 5:27,28​
27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.' 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.​

EVERYBODY is an adulterer. These political hacks masquerading as Christians don't give half a **** about what Jesus taught. They want to fuel their agenda. That's it.


I don't know about you, but I think most people would think the proposition that you should even discuss the stoning of divorcees that remarry a bit absurd, even if you come to the conclusion that you should not because you want them to repent.

BTW..... I, in fact, my argument against the death penalty is one that says "who am I to deny the murderer the opportunity to repent"... I firmly believer there are more people destined for the Kingdom in the average prison than there are in the average church.
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Well the clown in the video doesn't seem to give a **** about what is in that book he kept hoisting.​
 
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chromium said:
makes me wonder how come we focus the military on combating ISIS when we have such barbarism right in the midwest
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They are terrified, further they don't believe what they preach it suits a political end.

This is how you know they are amoral, the end justified the means at any cost. If you are Christian blasphemy of the holy spirit is the only sin Christ will not forgive. I'd say turning the church into a political lap dog is pretty blasphemous.
 
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RabidAlpaca said:
In his defense, he's right. His holy book tells him pretty directly to commit violence against homosexuals and other sinners. Christianity is the religion of peace, right?
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Grand Mal said:
The first sentence out of his mouth in the video is quoting Leviticus saying that homosexuals deserve the death penalty. He goes on to quote your Romans citation as saying that gays deserve death. There's no ambiguity. He makes himself very clear.
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No where in the New Testament are Christians called to kill anyone.
 
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upsideguy said:
I think you are missing the point. My outrage is not that he advocates sparing the life of a gay in favor of time for repentance, but that he takes seriously the option of killing them for being gay.

May I point out that there really isn't much difference, from a biblical standpoint between being gay and being an adulterer AND anyone that has remarried after divorce is considered an adulterer. Therefore, what if Swanson was on a tirade that we should not kill all people that have been married more than once, to give them time to repent?

I don't know about you, but I think most people would think the proposition that you should even discuss the stoning of divorcees that remarry a bit absurd, even if you come to the conclusion that you should not because you want them to repent.

BTW..... I, in fact, my argument against the death penalty is one that says "who am I to deny the murderer the opportunity to repent"... I firmly believer there are more people destined for the Kingdom in the average prison than there are in the average church.
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the appalling aspect is the open calls for a theocratic motive for everything. If we don't allow the government to butcher innocent people in the street, it's because god says so, no other reason. Also that he's saying homosexuals deserve to be killed

you make a good point though, why didn't he go on that stage and put his (though misguided) faith to good use by calling for the end of the death penalty, so they can repent?

I came across an old post on a forum where someone gay reacted to george bush's election "that's it, they're going to build concentration camps." While a bit irrational, so was the hate that was rampant, and it seems that hate has not diminished at all among republicans.

I'll do backflips while running forward before a republican goes on stage and says white hetero christian males deserve to be killed but let's spare them only so they can repent. Or even say this of other 'sins' without a death penalty like adultery, theft, rape, gluttony, wealth, disobedient children etc etc
 
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Gathomas88 said:
No where in the New Testament are Christians called to kill anyone.
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i am sure you lament this
 
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