Where is the concern when the domestic abuse victim is male?

ttwtt78640 said:

Physical superiority, or using a weapon to attain an edge, is not a plus. If the woman's attack left no marks (obvious injury) and the man's "defense" did then who is more likely to be arrested if the law gets involved in that "he said. she said" situation?
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Sounds like what happens with a lot of rapes and the answer is probably the same. If there's no proof, there's not much chance (today) that the man will be convicted.

Amadeus said:

It's simple. The choice in almost every situation is up to the male, having the superior strength. He can choose to let the woman leave, or not.

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Not to mention that if there are children, the woman usually will not leave without them. And the male can prevent it. Can threaten to use them against her, can threaten them with harm.

OTOH, if a woman is abusing a man, she can use custody to threaten him too.

Captain Adverse said:

I see your anecdotal "men abuse women" statement and I raise you "I have seen women abuse men." Many, many times when I was in school, out on the streets in major cities, and in homes of friends I have visited. Just like the video I posted, many times they depend on the male NOT striking back because of exactly what you try to express...the presumption that they can "take it because they are stronger."

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Men should no more accept it than women and I am not particularly sympathetic with women who tolerate it either. I consider it very weak. Yes, many will jump in and make excuses for why women do so.

I dont care, if you are being abused, leave. If he's stronger, make a plan, and use greater physical force to defend yourself, up to and including lethal force. If you have no where to go and no job skills...who's fault is that? Women should always be raised to be independent FIRST. There is no reason women cannot do this, except for social conditioning IMO. When women take that for yrs and yrs, they make us (women) all look bad and set a very bad example for their daughters...and their sons.

If there are children involved, this often causes a much greater disadvantage for a woman, as she needs to try and protect them as well. But I dont have much sympathy for childless women...or men...that put up with that ****.

_Sal said:

I think male violence is definitely viewed and treated differently.

However it is not about time that society re-examines ALL the roles of women in a more realistic light. It is time that society re-examines ALL the roles of men in a more realistic light.

While societies view about male abuse is slowly changing I believe it is other males who contribute to the silence surrounding this problem. Some males think other males showing simple emotion is wrong. Thinks it makes them lesser somehow. The big brutish unemotional and yet still tender and understanding male is still held up as the role to strive for. What a ridiculous role model.

So to quote you again with a slight change: face it, if we still consider a man weak if he shows human emotion, then how can the problem of male abuse even be addressed, especially if you place the burden upon the female. This is not a problem created by females...if we want to place blame, there's lots of places for it to land.

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LOL Exactly...who is more likely to judge and criticise a man who comes forward after getting abused by a woman?

IMO it's men. IMO women would be much more sympathetic.

So like Hell it's 'feminist's' fault.

Lursa said:

Sounds like what happens with a lot of rapes and the answer is probably the same. If there's no proof, there's not much chance (today) that the man will be convicted.

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Are you kidding me? I would hope that there is no chance of a conviction with no proof.

ttwtt78640 said:

Are you kidding me? I would hope that there is no chance of a conviction with no proof.

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What is the proof in 'he said, she said?'

That was what I was responding to.

Harry Guerrilla said:

There was one of those lame "What would you do?" episodes on ABC, where they did this.

I think only 1 woman attempted to stop the female from hitting the male, while the rest moved on and 1 cheered on him getting hit.
It's sometimes assumed that a male being hit, deserves it.

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I found that episode, and it contains the reactions afterward when people who walked by and did nothing were questioned. "We watched and recorded for hours while 163 people walked by doing nothing."




Most of the women asked said they thought he must have deserved it.

One couple contained a cop, who said if it was the man hitting her he would have done something, but he ignored her hitting him because..."it's a double standard."

Harry Guerrilla said:

No that's not the case.
Women can talk about their own issues for sure, no biggie.
When DV and DA is displayed as a single gender narrative that's lying and dishonest.

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Is it your claim that the reason for men not being able to speak out against abuse, etc...is the fault of feminism/feminists?

What? If so, please explain.

it's just me said:

This is not to mention the fact that there are a bunch of female child molesters out there, many of them teachers, but you never hear about it. Why? Because the teenage boys probably enjoyed it, and who cares about them, anyway?

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Of course we hear about it. Frequently. And they go to jail.

Mary Kay Latourneau is one but not the only one.

If it's not as prominent, it's because the teens do not report it because they dont recognize it as abuse, because our culture (not feminism) tells them they are 'men' for having sex

SCitizen said:

Legally in USA and much more so in UK today a man is like a slave -- a woman can assault him and he has little protection of the law. He also has no right to defend himself.

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How is 'the law' the fault of 'feminism?'

Who, exactly, is responsible for the laws pertaining to the abuse of men?

coyotedelmar said:

Was surprised to find out that women are more likely to neglect a child then men

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Women are also more exclusively the caretakers of children.

IMO, the same way that men are afraid to admit that they are being abused, women who neglect their kids dont get help because they are afraid to admit that they arent 'good mothers.' It's all about societal expectations.