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Women complains about man in bathroom with her daughter told ol well.

maquiscat said:
So? That still doesn't show me where in the article the article writer presented anything that never happened. The woman did make the claim. If she didn't then REI would never had made the investigation. The article at no point claims the event itself was real. They only tell of a women who made a claim and what that claim was. So how is the article false? Do you not understand that an article can truthfully reposting on a person telling a lie? There is not one false sentence in that article. If there is, present it? You are the one presenting something false. I won't call you a lier, because you actually believe, ar at least did when you made the statement, that which you said. But your statement was still false and the article is pure truth.
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Dude, REI has video, OK? Either believe the woman, or believe REI. REI did an investigation and found nothing. Seriously, just believe someone, I am not presenting anything false nor am I a "lier". I posted a freaking article that debunks this story.

Stop obsessing.
 
roguenuke said:
If the person feels they are in danger, report it. I'd expect store employees to be paying attention as well. You can still report someone for acting suspicious, just not for simply you feeling uncomfortable around them without any real reason why.
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You expect walmart employees to be paying attention?


Stranger Grabs Woman by Throat, Rapes Her in Bathroom of Manhattan Bar: NYPD | NBC New York

"Police said the suspect was hiding in one of the stalls inside a women's restroom at the Turnmill Bar on East 27th Street Saturday evening. When a 23-year-old woman emerged from one of the other stalls, he pushed her back in, grabbed her by the throat and raped her, according to police."

If you let men and women use the same restroom it would be only easier for such crimes to happen. Do you disagree with that? Ignore the Right Wing anti transgender argument, I am not making that argument here. Yes men can rape the same sex in public restrooms and yes it does happen. I remember a case where a man/monster cut off a boys testicles while his mother waited out in the hall way. It was in a mall (Clackamas Town Center) in Portland Oregon in the 80's. A supposedly safe place with cameras in the hall way, with security nearby.
I am pointing this out because there are a lot more male heterosexual rapist than gay ones, just since there are more straight males than not straight.

In Albuquerque at NMU they are having problems with groping and rapes in public. There are guys driving by on e scooters feeling womens body parts and speeding off. I am sure the last thing on their mind is creating restrooms that make the problem even worse.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
You expect walmart employees to be paying attention?


Stranger Grabs Woman by Throat, Rapes Her in Bathroom of Manhattan Bar: NYPD | NBC New York

"Police said the suspect was hiding in one of the stalls inside a women's restroom at the Turnmill Bar on East 27th Street Saturday evening. When a 23-year-old woman emerged from one of the other stalls, he pushed her back in, grabbed her by the throat and raped her, according to police."

If you let men and women use the same restroom it would be only easier for such crimes to happen. Do you disagree with that? Ignore the Right Wing anti transgender argument, I am not making that argument here. Yes men can rape the same sex in public restrooms and yes it does happen. I remember a case where a man/monster cut off a boys testicles while his mother waited out in the hall way. It was in a mall (Clackamas Town Center) in Portland Oregon in the 80's. A supposedly safe place with cameras in the hall way, with security nearby.
I am pointing this out because there are a lot more male heterosexual rapist than gay ones, just since there are more straight males than not straight.

In Albuquerque at NMU they are having problems with groping and rapes in public. There are guys driving by on e scooters feeling womens body parts and speeding off. I am sure the last thing on their mind is creating restrooms that make the problem even worse.
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All the more reason to carry a gun.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
You expect walmart employees to be paying attention?


Stranger Grabs Woman by Throat, Rapes Her in Bathroom of Manhattan Bar: NYPD | NBC New York

"Police said the suspect was hiding in one of the stalls inside a women's restroom at the Turnmill Bar on East 27th Street Saturday evening. When a 23-year-old woman emerged from one of the other stalls, he pushed her back in, grabbed her by the throat and raped her, according to police."

If you let men and women use the same restroom it would be only easier for such crimes to happen. Do you disagree with that? Ignore the Right Wing anti transgender argument, I am not making that argument here. Yes men can rape the same sex in public restrooms and yes it does happen. I remember a case where a man/monster cut off a boys testicles while his mother waited out in the hall way. It was in a mall (Clackamas Town Center) in Portland Oregon in the 80's. A supposedly safe place with cameras in the hall way, with security nearby.
I am pointing this out because there are a lot more male heterosexual rapist than gay ones, just since there are more straight males than not straight.

In Albuquerque at NMU they are having problems with groping and rapes in public. There are guys driving by on e scooters feeling womens body parts and speeding off. I am sure the last thing on their mind is creating restrooms that make the problem even worse.
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Which shows that the danger already exists and that stopping people who look like men from going in the women's restroom is not going to fix the problems where they exist. It also isn't going to cause more problems that wouldn't already exist.

You do realize that rape is illegal? Willing to bet that guy had no idea and didn't care whether the law allowed him in the restroom or not.

The vast majority of rapes are date rapes, or at least perpetrated by someone known to the person. They are not rapes that occur in public bathrooms or other public places between strangers.
 
beefheart said:
Dude, REI has video, OK? Either believe the woman, or believe REI. REI did an investigation and found nothing. Seriously, just believe someone, I am not presenting anything false nor am I a "lier". I posted a freaking article that debunks this story.

Stop obsessing.
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Here is your original post.
beefheart said:
Oh look, FOX reported another fake story, how unusual...

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/10/07/fox-reports-another-fabricated-bathroom-inciden/206024
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But it's not a fake story. They events really happened. A woman made the report. It is a real story about a faked report by a woman. And it was reported on other sites besides FOX. It called news. The article presented only facts. What about the article is not fact? By saying the article is fake you are indeed presenting something false, and given how you presented it you seem to be saying the article is fake because FOX wrote the article. But you have yet to show me one fake point that FOX made up.
 
maquiscat said:
Here is your original post.


But it's not a fake story. They events really happened. A woman made the report. It is a real story about a faked report by a woman. And it was reported on other sites besides FOX. It called news. The article presented only facts. What about the article is not fact? By saying the article is fake you are indeed presenting something false, and given how you presented it you seem to be saying the article is fake because FOX wrote the article. But you have yet to show me one fake point that FOX made up.
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Article said it was fake, said that REI denied it and had video.

Will you just get over it, and stop obsessing.
 
roguenuke said:
Which shows that the danger already exists and that stopping people who look like men from going in the women's restroom is not going to fix the problems where they exist. It also isn't going to cause more problems that wouldn't already exist.
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Perhaps you dont know men very well? Im not saying that transgender men/women are incapable of being pervs but men (actual biological men with nuts and all) by far have bigger track record of committing sex crimes than any other demographic in the US. Yes those same men have the opportunity to do attack other men and boys in the mens room. But most male sex crimes are aimed at females. Again I dont care if the micro small population that are transgender using whatever restrooms. But they better look like they belong in the restroom that they are using (at least loosely). If someone feels that they are a women and dress like a man they should use the mens restroom and vice versa. Though a severely small amount of men would dress like women as a excuse to use a womens restroom, it would be ridicuolous to use that as a excuse not to let transgender poeple use the appropriate restroom.

You do realize that rape is illegal? Willing to bet that guy had no idea and didn't care whether the law allowed him in the restroom or not.

The vast majority of rapes are date rapes, or at least perpetrated by someone known to the person. They are not rapes that occur in public bathrooms or other public places between strangers.
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Of come on of course I know that rape is illegal FFS...

I am pretty sure most criminals know that they are committing a crime. This one (criminal/monster) knew that he was was in the womens restroom and was there for a specific reason. He didnt give one **** about if he should be in there or not.

Here is the problem with allowing men into the womens restroom (again not talking about transgender anybodies) men will be men and no amount of rationalization will change that fact, men will peep into the other stall, they will masturbate listening to women peeing, they will expose them self in the restroom and on and on. AT least if men were not allowed in womens restrooms there would less opportunity for men to do what the assholes among the sex do. Have you not really ever been around men?
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Perhaps you dont know men very well? Im not saying that transgender men/women are incapable of being pervs but men (actual biological men with nuts and all) by far have bigger track record of committing sex crimes than any other demographic in the US. Yes those same men have the opportunity to do attack other men and boys in the mens room. But most male sex crimes are aimed at females. Again I dont care if the micro small population that are transgender using whatever restrooms. But they better look like they belong in the restroom that they are using (at least loosely). If someone feels that they are a women and dress like a man they should use the mens restroom and vice versa. Though a severely small amount of men would dress like women as a excuse to use a womens restroom, it would be ridicuolous to use that as a excuse not to let transgender poeple use the appropriate restroom.

Of come on of course I know that rape is illegal FFS...

I am pretty sure most criminals know that they are committing a crime. This one (criminal/monster) knew that he was was in the womens restroom and was there for a specific reason. He didnt give one **** about if he should be in there or not.

Here is the problem with allowing men into the womens restroom (again not talking about transgender anybodies) men will be men and no amount of rationalization will change that fact, men will peep into the other stall, they will masturbate listening to women peeing, they will expose them self in the restroom and on and on. AT least if men were not allowed in womens restrooms there would less opportunity for men to do what the assholes among the sex do. Have you not really ever been around men?
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Most men are perfectly capable of controlling themselves. Besides that, I'm not advocating for unisex bathrooms. I simply don't care if someone uses a bathroom that doesn't fit their perceived or even "legal" gender. I don't agree with people getting arrested, ticketed, thrown out, or even accosted for simply using the restroom that some others think they shouldn't use.
 
maquiscat said:
Here is your original post.


But it's not a fake story. They events really happened. A woman made the report. It is a real story about a faked report by a woman. And it was reported on other sites besides FOX. It called news. The article presented only facts. What about the article is not fact? By saying the article is fake you are indeed presenting something false, and given how you presented it you seem to be saying the article is fake because FOX wrote the article. But you have yet to show me one fake point that FOX made up.
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The report specifically says
Fox News reported a bogus story about a California mom who claims to have been kicked out of an REI sporting goods store for complaining about a man frightening her daughter in the store's women's restroom. Fox's reporting was based on statements made by an anti-LGBT hate group with a history of fabricating similar incidents in order to fearmonger about transgender people using public restrooms.
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and it continues

After Investigation, REI Finds "No Evidence" Of Incident, Confirms Woman Was Not Asked To Leave. In a statement posted on their website, REI said store personnel had found no evidence to support the claim that a man was in the women's restroom. Additionally, the sporting goods retailer denied the woman's allegation that she was asked to leave the store (emphasis added):
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RAMOSS said:
The report specifically says


and it continues
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The second part supports what i am saying the woman made the claim. REI even investigated the claim. The article is not false. The woman's story is. FOX reported on a bogus claim made by a real woman. I'm still waiting to be shown one fictional line that originated from the article's writer. Reporting on a bogus claim is not making a bogus claim.
 
Ahlevah said:
I've been using the men's room my entire life, and somehow I don't feel deprived of anything. I'd rather use a urinal anyway. It's more sanitary. With the modern self-flushing units you never touch anything (except yourself, or course).
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If you had ever used a urinal not wearing pants you would know that is not true.
 
help3434 said:
Do you think having back splashed urine on your pants is sanitary?
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I don't have that problem. I do know that the handle on the stall isn't sanitary. Neither is the toilet seat, unless you're into backsplash from the bowl.
 
Ahlevah said:
I don't have that problem. I do know that the handle on the stall isn't sanitary. Neither is the toilet seat, unless you're into backsplash from the bowl.
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You might be oblivious to the problem because you don't feel the back splash because it is hitting your pants instead of your skin.
 
help3434 said:
You might be oblivious to the problem because you don't feel the back splash because it is hitting your pants instead of your skin.
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Like I said, I don't have that problem. I'm tall and I have an enlarged prostate. A slow stream comes out and it's angled perfectly. On the other hand, you either pee in a toilet and get back-splash in spades there, or you sit your ass down on the seat. Or do you take strips of toilet paper and lay them on the seat so they stick to your buttocks when you stand up? :confused: I know some restrooms have toilet seat covers, but I've seen plenty of public restrooms that don't.
 
Ahlevah said:
Like I said, I don't have that problem. I'm tall and I have an enlarged prostate. A slow stream comes out and it's angled perfectly. On the other hand, you either pee in a toilet and get back-splash in spades there, or you sit your ass down on the seat. Or do you take strips of toilet paper and lay them on the seat so they stick to your buttocks when you stand up? :confused: I know some restrooms have toilet seat covers, but I've seen plenty of public restrooms that don't.
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I usually don't have problems with back-splash from peeing standing at a normal toilet, and I have plenty of naked experience with the toilet in my apartment.
 
help3434 said:
I usually don't have problems with back-splash from peeing standing at a normal toilet, and I have plenty of naked experience with the toilet in my apartment.
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Usually, eh? Maybe those other times you just don't see it. ;)
 
When you flush a toilet there's an even bigger aerosol effect.
 
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