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America is going through a sexual revolution, and this self-identification survey pro

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Crovax said:
Pretty much proves "born this way" is much more of a choice than anyone would like to admit
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No, it just means people are more comfortable admitting it.
 
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Nilly said:
No, it just means people are more comfortable admitting it.
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Sure 30% of the population thought history was gay but they never had a movement until now...
 
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Crovax said:
Sure 30% of the population thought history was gay but they never had a movement until now...
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We didn't have over 7 billion people either. There are about 12 known species that practice homosexuality in the animal kingdom. And there are obviously more we don't know about. It's completely natural.
 
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RDS said:
The sexual landscape is changing. Your thoughts?

America is going through a sexual revolution, and this self-identification survey proves it - Business Insider
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I'm pretty much bored with everybody's sexuality. So long as whatever goes on is between consenting adults and doesn't "frighten the horses," I wish everybody would just go to work and mow their lawns and keep their private lives private and mind their own business.
 
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Crovax said:
Sure 30% of the population thought history was gay but they never had a movement until now...
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At many times in the past homosexuality was rampant. The Greco-Roman era for example. The results of such surveys are better indicators of attitudes towards homosexuality, rather than rates of homosexuality itself.
 
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Wasn't this primarily an upper-class thing based on "mentoring" (with benefits)?
 
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A revolution, you say?

Damn. ....and right when I was getting to old to be revolting, too.
 
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lol.....what a joke
 
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Crovax said:
Sure 30% of the population thought history was gay but they never had a movement until now...
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Lol it didn't say 30% of the population is gay.
 
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Nilly said:
At many times in the past homosexuality was rampant. The Greco-Roman era for example. The results of such surveys are better indicators of attitudes towards homosexuality, rather than rates of homosexuality itself.
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It wasn't rampant, actually. Men could have relations but they still experienced discrimination, but social pressures meant that many were expected to still take a wife at some point in life. If men already had wives, they were expected to take care of their household affairs (financially, materially, etc.) before being with a man. If they weren't doing that, then they would get in ****.

Circumstantial bisexuality was common in the Roman armies and not really frowned upon.

nota bene said:
Wasn't this primarily an upper-class thing based on "mentoring" (with benefits)?
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Greek pederasty was a mentorship thing. It could be something as simple as a man mentoring a child, it could be an erotic friendship, or there could be molestation happening. It was pretty controversial at its height. With such a social custom, I'm sure you can imagine all the pros and cons of it, like anything else. The main ideology behind the custom was that only a man could teach a boy how to enter manhood, and women weren't qualified. You have to understand the mindset of the time, which was pretty homosocial. Men and women socialized among their respective sexes only, unless they were married. The idea of a woman teaching a boy how to be a man was absurd. Fatherless boys were seen as being at severe disadvantage. If you were a young man without an older male mentor, you were pretty screwed.

Homosexuality as practiced by adults only has never been widely endorsed in the ancient world, or discriminated against. In most places it was simply neutral. It happened but nobody talked about it, it was sort of a private matter. At least, that's what I know of Asia, Africa, and most of pre-Christian Europe.
 
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beefheart said:
Sex is awesome, should be done as much as possible with no guilt or issues among consenting adults...
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As long as you observe this principle "when you are in Rome do as the Romans do".
 
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I think revolution is overstating it quite a bit. 40-50 years ago a revolution occurred. Thereafter has been more or less an evolution upon that revolution.
 
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RDS said:
As long as you observe this principle "when you are in Rome do as the Romans do".
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A lot of the problems of the world are due to people being weird about sex.

Just find someone, and have sex, be daring, have fun, don't take it too seriously....its sex, it is what we are hard wired to do.
 
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RDS said:
The sexual landscape is changing. Your thoughts?

America is going through a sexual revolution, and this self-identification survey proves it - Business Insider
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Yup. We're basically smack-dab in the middle of "Sexual/Cultural Revolution 2.0." You'd have to be either blind or in outright denial to miss it at this point.

Following on the same track that was started in the 1960s, the "hook up culture" and popular youth attitudes in general are currently doing everything in their power to try and kill any notion of sexual morality or personal decorum our culture ever had in favor of lazy, undisciplined, unfettered hedonism. Meanwhile, feminism and other various forms of Sociocultural Marxism essentially attempt to strangle any coherent notion of masculinity or femininity into irrelevancy, and marriage and the family unit writhe in their death throes on the altar of general cultural apathy in background.

As all of these trends have continued to increase in severity, so too have the social ills they inevitably bring about. State dependent single motherhood has shot through the roof, new and variously difficult to treat breeds of STIs are being discovered daily and sapping funds which could be better spent elsewhere, and new and ever more draconian laws are being put in place to regulate the various ways in which wildly promiscuous and often intoxicated persons tend to get in trouble with one another. Due to feminist influence, those laws tend to be overwhelmingly anti-male in both design and intent. All the while, birthrates continue to sink as more and more people - women in particular - flat out refuse to reproduce, economic stability and mobility continues to suffer as a result of fewer stable families producing fewer productive members of society, and the welfare "nanny state" continues to accumulate more and more power and responsibility that it cannot possibly hope to sustain on any long term basis in a futile effort to counteract the damage.

The only truly "new" thing about it is how all of this LGBT nonsense seems to have taken center stage. While this movement claims to be about "rights," it seems fairly clear that its ultimate goal is aimed more towards tearing down the line between heterosexuality and homosexuality, in favor of putting up some sort of Neo-Greek/Libertine "pansexual" default state of being in its place.

Next stop, "Brave New World." :roll:
 
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Gathomas88 said:
Yup. We're basically smack-dab in the middle of "Sexual/Cultural Revolution 2.0." You'd have to be either blind or in outright denial to miss it at this point.

Following on the same track that was started in the 1960s, the "hook up culture" and popular youth attitudes in general are currently doing everything in their power to try and kill any notion of sexual morality or personal decorum our culture ever had in favor of lazy, undisciplined, unfettered hedonism. Meanwhile, feminism and other various forms of Sociocultural Marxism essentially attempt to strangle any coherent notion of masculinity or femininity into irrelevancy, and marriage and the family unit writhe in their death throes on the altar of general cultural apathy in background.

As all of these trends have continued to increase in severity, so too have the social ills they inevitably bring about. State dependent single motherhood has shot through the roof, new and variously difficult to treat breeds of STIs are being discovered daily and sapping funds which could be better spent elsewhere, and new and ever more draconian laws are being put in place to regulate the various ways in which wildly promiscuous and often intoxicated persons tend to get in trouble with one another. Due to feminist influence, those laws tend to be overwhelmingly anti-male in both design and intent. All the while, birthrates continue to sink as more and more people - women in particular - flat out refuse to reproduce, economic stability and mobility continues to suffer as a result of fewer stable families producing fewer productive members of society, and the welfare "nanny state" continues to accumulate more and more power and responsibility that it cannot possibly hope to sustain on any long term basis in a futile effort to counteract the damage.

The only truly "new" thing about it is how all of this LGBT nonsense seems to have taken center stage. While this movement claims to be about "rights," it seems fairly clear that its ultimate goal is aimed more towards tearing down the line between heterosexuality and homosexuality, in favor of putting up some sort of Neo-Greek/Libertine "pansexual" default state of being in its place.

Next stop, "Brave New World." :roll:
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I don't know what you been smoking, but the only difference between the 1960's, and earlier is that it was more open, and less clandestine than earlier.
 
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RAMOSS said:
I don't know what you been smoking, but the only difference between the 1960's, and earlier is that it was more open, and less clandestine than earlier.
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That's a blatant lie, and nonsensical Left Wing meme I've debunked more times than I care to count. :roll:

Put simply, "show me the bastards." If any of the things which are going on today were so common prior to the 1960s, there would be evidence of it. We would see the same kind of fallout we see today in the historical record.

No record of any such "fallout" exists.
 
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sookster said:
We didn't have over 7 billion people either. There are about 12 known species that practice homosexuality in the animal kingdom. And there are obviously more we don't know about. It's completely natural.
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NOT at a 30% rate. And those species where we do find homosexuality we also find humping trees and any old hole in the same small percentage.
 
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nota bene said:
I'm pretty much bored with everybody's sexuality. So long as whatever goes on is between consenting adults and doesn't "frighten the horses," I wish everybody would just go to work and mow their lawns and keep their private lives private and mind their own business.
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Except that's not to be. It's now required you know about their bent and approve.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
That's a blatant lie, and nonsensical Left Wing meme I've debunked more times than I care to count. :roll:

Put simply, "show me the bastards." If any of the things which are going on today were so common prior to the 1960s, there would be evidence of it. We would see the same kind of fallout we see today in the historical record.

No record of any such "fallout" exists.
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Oh yes.. the 'i debunked that more times I can count'. but never here. As for the evidence of it.. there is evidence. Even the victorians, a supposedly white lace and staid group, had lots of 'baudy' houses, and were highly sexual.

Let's look at the kinds of cartoons they had for the troops in WW2. This is what they had openly.. and their behavior followed. I can also point out the betty boops.



And, then there was all that turn of the century porn that is about.

Mind you, during the mid 50's, it all got put underground, but it was still there.
 
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clownboy said:
Except that's not to be. It's now required you know about their bent and approve.
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Their bent? It has a name. It's called Peyronies disease.

You can thank me later for providing you such necessary information.
 
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RAMOSS said:
Oh yes.. the 'i debunked that more times I can count'. but never here. As for the evidence of it.. there is evidence. Even the victorians, a supposedly white lace and staid group, had lots of 'baudy' houses, and were highly sexual.

Let's look at the kinds of cartoons they had for the troops in WW2. This is what they had openly.. and their behavior followed. I can also point out the betty boops.



And, then there was all that turn of the century porn that is about.

Mind you, during the mid 50's, it all got put underground, but it was still there.
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Things we didn't have in the 1950s. :roll:

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Average number of sexual partners appears to have increased dramatically as well.

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The fact that a few people may have behaved badly in the past doesn't mean much of anything. It was, simply speaking, no where near the national level pastime it is today.

While there were certainly unwed mothers, it wasn't the case that roughly half of our children were being born to unwed mothers every year, with a substantial quantity of those women never getting married or really settling down.

While pornography existed, it didn't absolutely dominate the lives the young men as it does today. A man in his twenties masturbating himself to the point of impotence would have seemed like a joke in past decades. Today, it is a commonly cited problem.

While prostitution may have existed, it wasn't the case that every young woman was basically expected to behave as a "pro-bono" prostitute as today's "hook up culture" tends to promote as being its theoretical ideal.

Things have changed, and not for the better.
 
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