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Would a world without Gender and Sex be a more peaceful world?

MisterLogical said:
An idea kind of like this was presented in the movie "The Giver" and everyone was completely at peace.
The one issue was they were for some reasons killing babys that were not the correct weight, and they did not like twins(Which I think they just used as conflict device)
Most of the movie things seemed totally perfect. So thoughts, discussion, ecs?
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Oh geeze.

Mankind would not survive. Humans have evolved to be the masters of Earth because of survival of the fittest. Those strains of mankind too weak to take command have died off. Aggression brings about improvements in health and survival. Gender and Sex play a pivotal role in this function. They improve the species and improve it's chances of survival. Women have evolved to be nurturing, taking care of the basic immediate needs of the "clan". Men have evolved to be stronger, weeding out the weak links, and ensuring the available life supporting energy goes to the strongest and fittest.

Dang, talk about lollipops and unicorns. Amazing such a movie was filmed, let alone funded.
 
MisterLogical said:
An idea kind of like this was presented in the movie "The Giver" and everyone was completely at peace.
The one issue was they were for some reasons killing babys that were not the correct weight, and they did not like twins(Which I think they just used as conflict device)
Most of the movie things seemed totally perfect. So thoughts, discussion, ecs?
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Would a world without people be more peaceful?
 
Gaius46 said:
Sounds like it would royally suck.
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I think of neutered cats ... lying on the couch, being 100% lazy, getting fat, napping and getting up only to **** up the kitty box.
 
Ockham said:
I think of neutered cats ... lying on the couch, being 100% lazy, getting fat, napping and getting up only to **** up the kitty box.
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Sounds like my cat who we affectionately refer to as "big and stupid."
 
MisterLogical said:
Prison rape
Street rape
Child rape
STDs
Unwanted pregnancy
Abortions
Murder out of jealousy
Murder out of rejected
Murder because of cheating
Stalking
Violent stalking
Stalking harassment
Sexual assault
Sexual harassment

Lack of gender

No gender identity issue
No such thing as LGBT
No such thing as gender standards(What men and women should be)
No attacking people for being the wrong sexuality
No suicide(Which this is very common) over sexuality related issues or abuse from being said sexuality
(Such as sex change regret or being bullied for ones sexuality)
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You bring up a lot about rape, and rape isn't about sex or gender it's about power. If it wasn't presented as rape, it'd be something else. Relationship murders happen no doubt, but again, most of that has to do with power, or losing power, not really about love or sex or gender, same with stalking. Sexual harrassment is about the only one on your list that is truly about gender and sex. As well suicides would continue to happen as most are NOT about sexuality past the age of 21 or so. Prior to that it's mostly about being bullied, again a power issue, not really a sexual issue, such that if the sexual aspect was removed, the bullies would find some other aspect to bully about.
 
Ockham said:
I think of neutered cats ... lying on the couch, being 100% lazy, getting fat, napping and getting up only to **** up the kitty box.
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So sex is the only thing in the world you can do? Not go outside, exercise, have events, talk to family and friends, watch movies?
 
It worked out pretty well for the Asari. :)
 
MisterLogical said:
An idea kind of like this was presented in the movie "The Giver" and everyone was completely at peace.
The one issue was they were for some reasons killing babys that were not the correct weight, and they did not like twins(Which I think they just used as conflict device)
Most of the movie things seemed totally perfect. So thoughts, discussion, ecs?
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Earthworms are hermaphroditic and they seem to live in plenty of peace.

I guess Mother Nature or God(s) decided differently for mammals, marsupials, birds, reptiles, amphibians, and fish.
 
Summerwind said:
You bring up a lot about rape, and rape isn't about sex or gender it's about power. If it wasn't presented as rape, it'd be something else. Relationship murders happen no doubt, but again, most of that has to do with power, or losing power, not really about love or sex or gender, same with stalking. Sexual harrassment is about the only one on your list that is truly about gender and sex. As well suicides would continue to happen as most are NOT about sexuality past the age of 21 or so. Prior to that it's mostly about being bullied, again a power issue, not really a sexual issue, such that if the sexual aspect was removed, the bullies would find some other aspect to bully about.
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I think it is fascinating how psychopathic serial killers get sexual arousal from murder.

I am confident that rapists get sexual arousal from raping as well.
 
Gaius46 said:
Sounds like my cat who we affectionately refer to as "big and stupid."
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My 18 month old male cat having been neutered still has lots of energy. He's just not interested in humping females is all.

He has hunted and killed 7 birds, 4 squirrels, 1 big rat, and a field mouse.

No sight of slowing down yet.
 
Riveroaks said:
My 18 month old male cat having been neutered still has lots of energy. He's just not interested in humping females is all.

He has hunted and killed 7 birds, 4 squirrels, 1 big rat, and a field mouse.

No sight of slowing down yet.
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Interesting. "Big and Stupid" is a Maine Coon and they're not the most energetic cats to begin with. Our spayed female, who's now 16 years old, is pretty active, much more so than the male who's half her age.
 
Gaius46 said:
Interesting. "Big and Stupid" is a Maine Coon and they're not the most energetic cats to begin with. Our spayed female, who's now 16 years old, is pretty active, much more so than the male who's half her age.
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I caught and brought 2 feral females in to the city animal clinic for spaying. They are sisters and both 3 years old.

Since the spaying they have both become very passive. All they do is eat and sleep.

My own cat which is a kitten from one of these two females was neutered at 10 weeks -- very early.

He does not seem to notice anything missing, and he is still very active and loves to hunt and eat freshly killed meat.

I don't know if the spaying/neutering has anything to do with the cats' activity levels.

It does seem to in some cases, yet in other cases it does not.
 
I think I'd get pretty violent if I get stuck in a world with only men.... a very disturbing thought to miss out on the better things in life.
 
If there is no gender, the whole society needs to be changed. Men don't work hard to get girls because they don't need so much money to sustain a relationship or marriage. Girls don't make up so often since they don't need to attract men.
 
MrSe7en said:
I imagine it would be a more violent world, because everybody would be frustrated all the time with no way to vent it.
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You mean sex is often a way to vent frustration? Oh, your sex life..
 
CLAX1911 said:
Without sex we would cease to be human. We are a sexual species, meaning we reproduce sexually. That is sex's only function. If we were asexual like earth worms would we still be human?
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We need to reconstruct the whole society. Traditional family will disappear and humans reproduce themselves.
 
idea_steed said:
We need to reconstruct the whole society. Traditional family will disappear and humans reproduce themselves.
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I don't think there is much wrong with society that hasn't been with us since the dawn of society. The traditional family isn't going anywhere.
 
A bit. Especially if by "gender and sex" you mean the stereotypical exaggerated rigid gender roles proscribed by most cultures.

Gender roles are a semi-arbitrary method for dividing and segregating us. The division and segregation makes us off-balance, weaker (collectively) and confused, which benefits the elites and the beneficiaries of the status quo and contributes to gender and homophobic violence.
 
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Summerwind said:
Some things on that list like unwanted pregnancies and STDs are not violence hence are not un-peaceful.

Even if you remove all those others that can be violent, you'd still not have a peaceful society. As I mentioned above there is a lot of violence that has nothing to do with sex or gender, but with power and money, including but limited to police violence against citizens, gang and related drug violence, revenge violence not related to sex such as the recent reporters, etc. So no matter how you cut it, removing sex and gender from a society would not end violence, hence it would not create a peaceful society.
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But, (perhaps you'll agree) it would probably somewhat reduce the amount of violence.
 
NoC_T said:
As a percentage of total violence, globally?
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With prison rapes, general rapes, mass rapes in war (far more common than most people know), all the violence caused by sexual jealousy, and all the violence directed at "sluts" and 'cheaters,' sex-related crimes are a substantial portion of all crimes. It is a type of crime that is considered common enough to keep half of the population afraid* to go out after dark in many places.

*not necessarily reasonably afraid
 
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CLAX1911 said:
I don't think there is much wrong with society that hasn't been with us since the dawn of society. The traditional family isn't going anywhere.
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I don't get it
 
CLAX1911 said:
I don't think there is much wrong with society that hasn't been with us since the dawn of society. The traditional family isn't going anywhere.
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Well, the traditional family is not very traditional. Isolated 2-generation households with limited adult role models is a very new idea which really didn't take off until perhaps the 20th century.

It's not a very good one, as it turns out. It's overly stressful on the adults, not intensive enough for the children, and makes abuse easier to hide. I think it'll be dead before my life expectancy is up. It's already dying, from what I can tell. Faster in some developed nations than others. America slowest of all, as usual.
 
SmokeAndMirrors said:
Well, the traditional family is not very traditional. Isolated 2-generation households with limited adult role models is a very new idea which really didn't take off until perhaps the 20th century.

It's not a very good one, as it turns out. It's overly stressful on the adults, not intensive enough for the children, and makes abuse easier to hide. I think it'll be dead before my life expectancy is up. It's already dying, from what I can tell. Faster in some developed nations than others. America slowest of all, as usual.
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It's doing just fine.
 
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